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[jackofshadows]

So, turns out, all that premise and the fancy intro was to solely justify anime superpowers in a D&D enviroment? What a fucking shame.

And all this time I thought they had balls to put some pressure on future snowflake players, at least for a first chapter of the game or whatever.

 

[Black]

And all this time I thought they had balls to put some pressure on future snowflake players

Look at their target audience, the twitch clowns, making them feel average and not outstanding is something they cannot do.
And they can excuse it with "well, you were special in previous BGs too".

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Wotc embraced the “tadpole in the brain is not a big deal”:

“You were implanted with a mind flayer tadpole, but the ceremorphosis never completed. And now the psionic power is yours. When you use it, your flesh shines with a strange mucus.”

from the last UA: https://media.wizards.com/2020/dnd/downloads/UA2020_PsionicOptions.pdf

So cool so it’s totally like The Mind Flayer in Stranger Things except you gets El’s powers!

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

So, turns out, all that premise and the fancy intro was to solely justify anime superpowers in a D&D enviroment? What a fucking shame.

And all this time I thought they had balls to put some pressure on future snowflake players, at least for a first chapter of the game or whatever.

I honestly don't understand why anyone would need additional superpowers in world where magic exist. I mean, you don't even need a tadpole in brain to be a badass in D&D, so adding tad poles in brain of main character without intention for it to influence story/gameplay sounds like complete unnecessary move.

 

[NJClaw]

So, turns out, all that premise and the fancy intro was to solely justify anime superpowers in a D&D enviroment? What a fucking shame.

And all this time I thought they had balls to put some pressure on future snowflake players, at least for a first chapter of the game or whatever.

[...] without intention for it to influence story/gameplay sounds like complete unnecessary move.

Where are you getting this from? I thought it was obvious the tadpole thing was going to be important for the plot of the game.

 

[jackofshadows]

I honestly don't understand why anyone would need additional superpowers in world where magic exist. I mean, you don't even need a tadpole in brain to be a badass in D&D, so adding tad poles in brain of main character without intention for it to influence story/gameplay sounds like complete unnecessary move.

For magic users, yes. But mundane classes have fewer amount of abilities, so apparently it is intended to compensate that. Besides, we can call it a trasfer of "source skill" from D:OS2. They just carry on their "successful design" like bunch of other things and further expanding D&D scope in a process.

 

[Quillon]

so adding tad poles in brain of main character

Main characterS. Since all companions are MCs and any of them are potentially the PC

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Where are you getting this from? I thought it was obvious the tadpole thing was going to be important for the plot of the game.

"You were implanted with a mind flayer tadpole, but the ceremorphosis never completed" so characters in game getting psionic powers without any risk to become a monster. That means no time pressure to remove tad pole (not that I like timers in games, but still) and you can fucking around with alien worm in your brain. Yes, you have anime superpowers, but these powers isn't special enough to make plot revolve around them + they picked most boring origin for psionic powers of them all. There nothing special in being one of thousand walking wombs for filthy aliens, while with other origins there plot can be built from sheer process of getting psionic powers.

 

[Lacrymas]

"Never completed" sounds like someone doesn't know how it works. Once the tadpole is inserted, there is no going back and the process starts immediately, you don't need someone to do anything else for it to "complete". What a lame premise.

 

[Efe]

maybe that particular tadpole is just lazy and process doesnt start immediately...
then its all a cycle of procrastination.

 

[NJClaw]

Where are you getting this from? I thought it was obvious the tadpole thing was going to be important for the plot of the game.

"You were implanted with a mind flayer tadpole, but the ceremorphosis never completed" so characters in game getting psionic powers without any risk to become a monster. That means no time pressure to remove tad pole (not that I like timers in games, but still) and you can fucking around with alien worm in your brain. Yes, you have anime superpowers, but these powers isn't special enough to make plot revolve around them + they picked most boring origin for psionic powers of them all. There nothing special in being one of thousand walking wombs for filthy aliens, while with other origins there plot can be built from sheer process of getting psionic powers.

I think you are reading too much into an UA background, it's just an easter egg they put there to wink at BG3. Also, all these backgrounds are (more or less) like that: you have a "strong" premise that justifies your character being what it is. What you are going to do with that premise is up to you, your DM and the rest fo your group. You could say the same about every other background:

8 As a child, you had an imaginary friend that looked like a flumph or a strange platypuslike creature. One day, it gifted you with psionic powers, which have ended up being not so imaginary.
9 Your nightmares whisper the truth to you: your psionic powers are not your own. You draw them from your vestigial twin!
10 You grew up near the lair of a sapphire dragon, and now your eyes glow with sapphire light when you use your newfound powers.

They all are "you have your powers thanks to X", with X = tadpole/flumph/vestigial twin. In your game then you can ignore the background or explore its implications, but it's only up to the players.

 

[NJClaw]

"Never completed" sounds like someone doesn't know how it works. Once the tadpole is inserted, there is no going back and the process starts immediately, you don't need someone to do anything else for it to "complete". What a lame premise.

Well, they are the ones calling the shots on how it works, so they really can't be wrong by definition

Spoiler

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Oh boy, it is faithful to D&D 5th edition after all <3

Of course, I know Larian can't go wrong. Swen knows best <3

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I honestly don't understand why anyone would need additional superpowers in world where magic exist.

What magefags do not understand is that surmounting odds by throwing a spell at it every time is a hollow way of dealing with things. Deep in their hearts they know this, but their civilized brains will never admit it. So they try to drive that sensation of inadequacy deeper down by adding more spells. Of course, it will never suffice, and casters will never be more than blokes in pajamas waving their arms about and mumbling shit.

 

[commie]

If you had in mind Action/RPG only then of course RT is best for them

You can't have an action game be TB, those are opposites. And action RPG is also a nonsensical word salad that doesn't mean anything, but that's a different matter.

chess is an action rpg

It's peak TB, bro.

But you move the pieces in real time, ergo: Action And the role you play is one of an intelligent person, ergo: role play. And the thing you play is a game, ergo : game.

Checkmate Vatnik!

BTW why are you a Vatnik and I'm not? What bullshit is this? You aren't even Slav!

 

[Lacrymas]

"Never completed" sounds like someone doesn't know how it works. Once the tadpole is inserted, there is no going back and the process starts immediately, you don't need someone to do anything else for it to "complete". What a lame premise.

Well, they are the ones calling the shots on how it works, so they really can't be wrong by definition

Spoiler

That makes it worse and it's part of the problem why this is so tasteless.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

What magefags do not understand is that surmounting odds by throwing a spell at it every time is a hollow way

So throwing psionic spells is not "hollow way" and arcane spells is? I don't think you understood my argument in slightest.

Deep in their hearts they know this, but their civilized brains will never admit it. So they try to drive that sensation of inadequacy deeper down by adding more spells. Of course, it will never suffice, and casters will never be more than blokes in pajamas waving their arms about and mumbling shit.

You blame casters in inadecquacy, yet defend Larain's decision to make everyone as caster by adding psionic powers "cuz tad pole and shieet". Nuff said.
Also, I always wanted to ask, why such aggression towards casters? Did some wizard player fucked your woman or something?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

So throwing psionic spells is not "hollow way"

Never said so. I'd state the opposite, in truth.

I don't think you understood my argument in slightest.

I did, but I am scarcely gonna let up an opportunity to rag on magefags.

 

[fantadomat]

Wotc embraced the “tadpole in the brain is not a big deal”:

“You were implanted with a mind flayer tadpole, but the ceremorphosis never completed. And now the psionic power is yours. When you use it, your flesh shines with a strange mucus.”

from the last UA: https://media.wizards.com/2020/dnd/downloads/UA2020_PsionicOptions.pdf

LoL So larian fucked up that much that they had to change the D&D lore for it . Oh well,at least it will be TB,thus the best BG games clearly.

 

[Harthwain]

Don't be surprised if this is just the start for bigger changes to come down the road, depending on what Larian plans to do with their BG3 story.

 

[AwesomeButton]

LoL So larian fucked up that much that they had to change the D&D lore for it . Oh well,at least it will be TB,thus the best BG games clearly

How many times have we been over it - companies who hold IPs laugh at their fanbase who take lore seriously. The evidence is everywhere around you.

 

[fantadomat]

LoL So larian fucked up that much that they had to change the D&D lore for it . Oh well,at least it will be TB,thus the best BG games clearly

How many times have we been over it - companies who hold IPs laugh at their fanbase who take lore seriously. The evidence is everywhere around you.

That we all know , i am just laughing with them at the dumb people expecting incline from that shit .

 

[NJClaw]

LoL So larian fucked up that much that they had to change the D&D lore for it . Oh well,at least it will be TB,thus the best BG games clearly

How many times have we been over it - companies who hold IPs laugh at their fanbase who take lore seriously. The evidence is everywhere around you.

That we all know , i am just laughing with them at the dumb people expecting incline from that shit .

 

[CappenVarra]

too bad larian went the tadpole route instead of choosing flumph

 

[NJClaw]

too bad larian went the tadpole route instead of choosing flumph

We can't have nice things.

Since D&D 5 Monster Manual reintroduced flumphs, I think we can reasonably expect at least a quick encounter in BG3.