Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[NJClaw]

3 and 3.5 were pretty fucking shit to play as actual tabletop games though. Way too bloated. There are better, more elegant systems. 3.5 works best when a computer keeps track of everything.

What do you mean by "bloated"?

Both 3.x and AD&D 2 are "bloated" in their own ways.

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Yeah, grappling rules are so intricated it's almost hard to believe it isn't just an inside joke ended up in the handbook by accident. However, AD&D has its fair share of needlessly intricate/obscure/specific rules. I mean, there are tables like this one:

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And this one:

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It's extremely hard to actually pay attention to this stuff at the table.

Both editions are convoluted in their own ways, it's just a matter of which convolutedness you don't mind that much.

 

[CappenVarra]

HERESY!!! There is no DnD after 3.5 2nd edition AD&D. Burn the witch!

fixed that for ya, mate

 

[The Avatar]

Yeah, grappling rules are so intricated it's almost hard to believe it isn't just an inside joke ended up in the handbook by accident. However, AD&D has its fair share of needlessly intricate/obscure/specific rules. I mean, there are tables like this one:
It's extremely hard to actually pay attention to this stuff at the table.

Both editions are convoluted in their own ways, it's just a matter of which convolutedness you don't mind that much.

The AC modifiers are optional rules, of which there are many in the Player's Handbook. In my experience in the 90's, most games did not use those rules, except for individual initiative. The core of AD&D is fairly simple, and not all that crunchy. Fighters do almost nothing outside of a basic attack. There are no feats. The skill system is very simple. 3.x+ is way more crunchy with the amount of rules it contains.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Can I get a tl;dr on what's known about the game?

 

[Grunker]

Like we've discussed before, you turn into a vegetable after several hours of being infected with the tadpole and then die completely. You don't have weeks. It takes a week for your dead body to transform into a mindflayer, sure, but that's different.

You don't die at all, Mindflayers aren't a form of Undead.

You're dead. Your brain is replaced with the mindflayer.

BUT DOES IT GRANT HIM POWERS AND IF SO IS THAT A LORE BREACH AND IF SO DOES ANYONE CARE

 

[fantadomat]

Can I get a tl;dr on what's known about the game?

It is expansion to DOS 2.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

HERESY!!! There is no D&D after 3.5 the demise of TSR in 1997. Burn the witch!

I don't usually write "I fixed it for you", but I fixed it for you.

 

[DraQ]

Can I get a tl;dr on what's known about the game?

First game in the series to get rid of RTWP idiocy.

Got a bunch of people hilariously butthurt too.

 

[Morblot]

There's no D&D after Gary Gygax left TSR in 1986.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Cael of Banville wrote :

HERESY!!! There is no D&D after 3.5 the demise of TSR in 1997. Burn the witch!

There's no D&D after Gary Gygax left TSR in 1986.

It's all a lie, there was never any D&D to begin with!

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm partial to Chainmail myself tbh. D&D was decline from the start.

 

[NJClaw]

I'm partial to Chainmail myself tbh. D&D was decline from the start.

Fuck Chainmail, if you aren't playing chess are you even playing?

 

[Efe]

fuck chess if you aren't playing backgammon why even play?

 

[NJClaw]

fuck chess if you aren't playing backgammon why even play?

This is a trick, nobody knows how to play backgammon.

 

[Lacrymas]

Pfff, chess pales compared to the only really inclined board game - Senet. I'm sure you casuals have never even played it.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Pfff, chess pales compared to the only really inclined board game - Senet. I'm sure you casuals have never even played it.

It wasn't that good, otherwise, why would have they stopped playing it 4000 years ago ?

There is only one game worth playing, La Soule ...

 

[Desiderius]

The predecessor to Chainmail wasn't Chess it was either fencing/medieval reenactors or massive miniatures ala Warhammer but with no rules.

 

[Lacrymas]

It wasn't that good, otherwise, why would have they stopped playing it 4000 years ago ?

It was so inclined peasant minds couldn't handle it, so it died out due to non-inclined humans.

 

[Elex]

Stadia conference revealed nothing.

 

[catfood]

Larian is literally Hitler and Baldur's Gate 3 is literally the holocaust.

 

[fantadomat]

Larian is literally Hitler and Baldur's Gate 3 is literally the holocaust.

So it will have 6 million bugz?

 

[NJClaw]

Stadia conference revealed nothing.

Can't find it, do you have a link?

 

[Spectacle]

The predecessor to Chainmail wasn't Chess it was either fencing/medieval reenactors or massive miniatures ala Warhammer but with no rules.

There were plenty of miniature wargames rules before Chainmail, covering a wide variety of historical conflicts. Chainmail's innovation was adding fantasy elements to the game. It's been decline eve since.

 

[Elex]

Stadia conference revealed nothing.

Can't find it, do you have a link?

 

[Fedora Master]

Larian is literally Hitler and Baldur's Gate 3 is literally the holocaust.

Larian aren't as competent as Hitler and BG3 not actually happening would be great.