Are you some type of degenerate that only communicates through memes? Imagine making a whole meme just so you can give a quick reply that's as shit posty as everything else on this site.
It's not just them just heading there. It's influencing the industry to head that way too because a bunch of casual degenerate Larian cucks will buy that crap up.
I spent almost 50€ on Torment: Tides of Numenera, buying Baldur's Gate 3 won't be the worst thing I have ever done with my money.
The worst part is that they are not even funny.Are you some type of degenerate that only communicates through memes? Imagine making a whole meme just so you can give a quick reply that's as shit posty as everything else on this site.
He makes good points with them though. He highlights the inconsistencies by contrasting the words with the facts. On some level this is really crafty, including the technical side (the "show, don't tell" approach).
Well if you look close you notice that this topic is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/6qjwvj/cmv_baldurs_gate_is_a_really_shit_game/CMV: Baldur's Gate is a really shit game
So, Baldur's Gate! A classic computer CRPG. It introduced the world to active combat, a staple of MMO's. It brought the beloved Dungeons and Dragons role playing game to your computer screen. Any CRPG fan will recommend you this game.
I fucking hate this game a lot and here's why:
COMBAT
I have nothing against turn based or active combat. Nor do I have any particular complaints to be made against Baldur's Gate's combat. It's a perfect replication of ADnD's combat systems, complete with equipment, classes, spells, and everything you loved from 2e.
No, the real problem with Baldur's Gate's combat is the abundance of it.
Every single problem throughout all of Baldur's Gate leads back to its obsession with combat. The creators of ADnD knew that too much combat meant a boring session: the game would get stale. They intentionally made attacking unreliable, so players would either use spells intelligently, or would seek an alternate solution to problems, or would creatively defeat their enemy before the fight even began. In other words, they encouraged creativity. Later editions would make attacking more consistent, moving the impetus of creativity on to the DM, but that's another discussion.
In Baldur's Gate, there's only ONE path to be taken with combat. Well, 2, but really one. You click on your enemy and hope that you hit your enemy before they hit you. Or you use a spell to asplode them. Your only real choice is to nuke the shit out of your enemy, with no way to cleverly circumvent or protect against them.
The developers didn't even bother to make encounters interesting. Like, when you get to the bottom of the Nashkel mines, you meet Mulaney. You can try and bullshit him to get some stuff, but he attacks you anyway. You can cast silence on him, but he just magically screams through it. No matter what you do, he will always call in a big group of skeletons and kobolds.
And the only thing to do is just hack at them. Once Mulaney falls, you wait for your characters to get lucky and kill all the other enemies. Mulaney himself just casts Hold Person and then whacks at you the whole time. That's boring! There's no strategy to be made here aside from basic spells and attacking!
This focus on combat also disadvantages a LOT of classes. Thieves have become the equivalent of a Pokémon HM slave, and bless you if you try to actually PLAY as one. If you want to play as a Fighter or Mage, this is certainly the game for you, but otherwise, you'd best look elsewhere.
WRITING
Early on, in the Candlekeep area, you might encounter a man who asks your identity. He then attacks you. Ah! you might think, a random event! Then the same thing happens in the same area.
There are no less than ten of these encounters throughout the whole game. They all play out EXACTLY the same. You always know the MOMENT you see them that they're going to attack you. They always ask who you are. You're always given the option of lying. It NEVER, NEVER, NEVER WORKS.
This design philosophy is reflected in the entire game. Alternate paths, alternate solutions, are rare. You'll always follow pretty much the same path every single time you play.
Is that what DnD is about? Is DnD about pottering from one place to another, accomplishing little aside from monotonous combat? Making your character as min-maxed as possible, hoping to survive the constant bullshit the devs throw at you? Never being creative, or going away from the path the devs set you on?
Fuck this game. I haven't even gotten into the real heart of the issues with the game, the obnoxious companions, the constant overpowering enemies in early areas, the unbearable voice lines.
God, I hope BGII is as much of an improvement as they say it is.
God bless you, sir. I hope you have a wonderful day. May the Force be with you.
It's like a zombie - should be long dead but instead is shuffling around.
Brraaaaaaiiinnnnnnsssssss!!!!
Cheeeeeeseeeeeee
20 people getting butthurt by him,lol you are so sad,the TB fanatics that is.
Fixed. Also, Larian is way bigger now.
Butthurt grandpa. TB is inferior to RTwP #cope
Insightful as always, Ontopoly!
What do you think about this one?
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/6qjwvj/cmv_baldurs_gate_is_a_really_shit_game/CMV: Baldur's Gate is a really shit game
So, Baldur's Gate! A classic computer CRPG. It introduced the world to active combat, a staple of MMO's. It brought the beloved Dungeons and Dragons role playing game to your computer screen. Any CRPG fan will recommend you this game.
I fucking hate this game a lot and here's why:
COMBAT
I have nothing against turn based or active combat. Nor do I have any particular complaints to be made against Baldur's Gate's combat. It's a perfect replication of ADnD's combat systems, complete with equipment, classes, spells, and everything you loved from 2e.
No, the real problem with Baldur's Gate's combat is the abundance of it.
Every single problem throughout all of Baldur's Gate leads back to its obsession with combat. The creators of ADnD knew that too much combat meant a boring session: the game would get stale. They intentionally made attacking unreliable, so players would either use spells intelligently, or would seek an alternate solution to problems, or would creatively defeat their enemy before the fight even began. In other words, they encouraged creativity. Later editions would make attacking more consistent, moving the impetus of creativity on to the DM, but that's another discussion.
In Baldur's Gate, there's only ONE path to be taken with combat. Well, 2, but really one. You click on your enemy and hope that you hit your enemy before they hit you. Or you use a spell to asplode them. Your only real choice is to nuke the shit out of your enemy, with no way to cleverly circumvent or protect against them.
The developers didn't even bother to make encounters interesting. Like, when you get to the bottom of the Nashkel mines, you meet Mulaney. You can try and bullshit him to get some stuff, but he attacks you anyway. You can cast silence on him, but he just magically screams through it. No matter what you do, he will always call in a big group of skeletons and kobolds.
And the only thing to do is just hack at them. Once Mulaney falls, you wait for your characters to get lucky and kill all the other enemies. Mulaney himself just casts Hold Person and then whacks at you the whole time. That's boring! There's no strategy to be made here aside from basic spells and attacking!
This focus on combat also disadvantages a LOT of classes. Thieves have become the equivalent of a Pokémon HM slave, and bless you if you try to actually PLAY as one. If you want to play as a Fighter or Mage, this is certainly the game for you, but otherwise, you'd best look elsewhere.
WRITING
Early on, in the Candlekeep area, you might encounter a man who asks your identity. He then attacks you. Ah! you might think, a random event! Then the same thing happens in the same area.
There are no less than ten of these encounters throughout the whole game. They all play out EXACTLY the same. You always know the MOMENT you see them that they're going to attack you. They always ask who you are. You're always given the option of lying. It NEVER, NEVER, NEVER WORKS.
This design philosophy is reflected in the entire game. Alternate paths, alternate solutions, are rare. You'll always follow pretty much the same path every single time you play.
Is that what DnD is about? Is DnD about pottering from one place to another, accomplishing little aside from monotonous combat? Making your character as min-maxed as possible, hoping to survive the constant bullshit the devs throw at you? Never being creative, or going away from the path the devs set you on?
Fuck this game. I haven't even gotten into the real heart of the issues with the game, the obnoxious companions, the constant overpowering enemies in early areas, the unbearable voice lines.
God, I hope BGII is as much of an improvement as they say it is.
It's a Reddit post which automatically makes it retarded.
It's on a subreddit where people pretend like they want someone to changed their mind but the post contains "I fucking hate this game a lot and here's why:" so he's obviously not interested or expects anyone to change his mind which makes it retarded.
He thinks the only thing that you can do in combat is click an enemy and hope you hit before they do, completely ignoring character building, positioning, PC roles, etc which makes not just the post but him himself retarded.
He called the combat active combat and said it's now a staple in every MMO????? Retarded.
He expects a video game from 1998 to recreate a gm so he doesn't have to use combat in a video game because he's too simple to realise he's losing because all he's doing is left clicking all the enemies and hoping he wins. Something only an idiot would do.
And lastly, it's a post on Reddit. How the fuck did you even come across it? Unless you're a Redditor scum just like him.
It's the exact type of post I would expect from Reddit. Some dumb fuck that has no idea about how something works and instead of either learning how to work it or just finding a game that appeals more to his casual idiotic self (Dos2), he cries about it but phrases it as some sort of weird change my view. Who the fuck would even make a post asking someone to help them like something they absolutely hate? Only an idiot who wants attention would do something like that. Even I'm not that thirsty for attention
Reddit is trash, it's a post on Reddit, therefore the post is trash.
