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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Larian Studios' started by Belegarsson, May 30, 2019.

  1. fantadomat Arcane Edgy

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    Why won't you just drop dead you senile budget sinkhole! Your TB retardation is getting annoying.
     
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  2. NJClaw OoOoOoOoOoh Patron

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    Okay, enough Ontopoly for today. I need a little rest.
     
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  3. thesheeep Arcane Patron

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    Played online 5E for a few months and that sums it up.

    And is one of the bigger grievances with 5E. Characters all just feel identical, with little to no possibility to make them "your own" beyond one important choice at level 3. Characters of the same class, I mean, so at least it's better than 4E where every character feels completely identical to the next, independent of the class. I played a character for several levels and at no point did I feel I could pursue any kind of agenda in character building beyond cosmetics.
     
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  4. DraQ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    No we'd rather play pretend that we are doing that while sitting all alone with a piece of software that doesn't even do a particularly good job at trying.

    As opposing to one that at least tries to do a good job OR one that lets you be that manly Viking type that shouts at dragons (is it that hard to not give a fuck about what a bunch of basement dwelling weirdoes say?).

    Not to mention those that leave all that dweeby shit behind and let you pelt enemy with hundreds of nukes ow your own design from a glorious flying fortress of metal and ceramic that pumps tons of hydrogen per second through white hot nuclear reactor to fling it at enemy tens of times faster than the fastest rifle bullet while cutting anything that comes near into ribbons with rapid firing guns based on the fastest high explosives known to Man and piercing whatever survives by pouring more energy than generated by an entire nation into spears of light hotter than the heart of the Sun.
    :obviously:

    But sure, do pretend you are playing DnD using crappy piece of software that is not even good at doing that, because it was cobbled from a hastily refurbished wreck of an RTS when it turned out its makers won't manage to make a marketable one even when RTSes sold like they were buns still warm from the oven, do poke fun at those who can at least play actual DnD, and do derive your pathetic little pride out of that.
    I mean people can be proud of weirdest things these days, so why not playing games that pretend to be tabletop, except poorly?
     
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  5. Ontopoly Hater of Larian

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    As is typical of a TBers. This is a forum. You can take all the time you need. Don't strain yourself too much in such a short amount of time

    I'm not pretending to play dnd because dnd is trash. I'm actually playing a crpg. One that recognized that something as bad as dnd has some redeemable qualities and that if we take the good and leave the bad we can get an actual good product. One that will shape the industry only for some newbies to come in later and try to butcher it or shit talk it because they're basic bitches and lack perspective about the industry.

    Do you honestly enjoy waiting around a table while some idiot takes 5 minutes to make a decision and when he finally finishes the next guy takes another 5? Something about TBers just makes them love waiting. Living at a snails pace. They probably can't even handle that.
     
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  6. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    All these things considered, what it is most dreadful to think is that BG 3 will take after DOS 2, and have a great start, because of the feedback they'll be getting during EA (just like they did with DOS from their backers) and then the 2nd half will be utter shit, because they'll be able to go full Belgian.
    If anything, BG2 was consistent in its vision throughout, and as a product is respectable in that regard. Meanwhile DOS 2 is like the RPG version of Two-Face.
     
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  7. Saerain Augur Patron

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    Started off awkward, then built up some pretty good takes until the last sentence knocked it all down. Still, 16/20 would lay hands.
     
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  8. Lacrymas Arcane

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    I do love me some hot takes, but those are neither hot nor takes. It's like that "are we still pretending Fallout 3 is not good" guy. There is so much wrong in both that guy and Ontopoly's rantings it's unbelievable and you can't even begin unpacking it. It's the video game version of the Gish gallop.
     
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  9. DraQ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Primary school sure is cool, huh?
    If you think addition is awesome just wait until they teach you multiplication.
    I don't think they will manage to teach you much more, though, so don't hold your breath afterwards.
    One based on DnD.
    But sure, keep deluding yourself - it's not a turd if it's in a sandwich, right?
     
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  10. Parabalus Arcane

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    Being TB means it's further from the BG games than stuff like DA:O and KotoR.

    It's Larian using the trademark for something unrelated, same as Beth with Fallout. Even worse, since Beth used the setting, whereas here even that's not the case.
     
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  11. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    baldur's gate was never good
     
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  12. existential_vacuum .PNG Police Patron

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  13. You are right, it is and was always great, simply one of the best. It offers a good experience to everyone
    that isn't a combat or story extremist, few rpg's manage that.
     
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  14. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    It's shit at both
    Fallout is the superior game in every aspect
     
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  15. Saravan Learned

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    Thank you all for today's show but I must sleep now.
     
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  16. Fallout combat is only good for its death animations and that's it. And relying on the
    companion ai in combat is a poor joke, i'll take full party controls over this anyday.
     
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  17. Efe Liturgist

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    fallout being a good game means bg is bad?
    wat?
     
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  18. Have to agree. I’m playing Fallout 1 for the first time (I know!) and it’s freaking amazing, but it doesn’t mean that BG is bad or not good. BG remains one of my favorite games of all time, even after playing Fallout.
     
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  19. guestposting Educated

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    This is a forgotten realms game that will ultimately take you to the sword coast and the city of Baldur’s Gate. How is that not the same setting?
     
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  20. Ontopoly Hater of Larian

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    It's not about addition existing. It's about what you add. But I wouldn't expect you to know what's being added when you play Larian trash that hides as many of the numbers as possible and only shows you a percentage and a flashy damage number because 90 percent of their audience are declined in spirit and kind.
     
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  21. guestposting Educated

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    Efe citation needed, really? Here is Swen answering a question about locations in a recent AMA:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/fhq9cq/compiled_baldurs_gate_ama_20200313/

    You have to scroll down a ways to find his answer. I took a screenshot but it’s not letting me upload it.

    He says you start on the banks of the river Chionthar and eventually make your way west to Baldur’s Gate. Remember the bridge you had to cross to enter the city in BG1, Wyrm’s Crossing? That’s the bridge over the Chionthar.

    Edit: here it is:
     
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  22. Gangrelrumbler Arcane Patron

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    Untrue, I'm playing Poool of Radiance right now and despite the interface being kinda fucky and the game being from 88 the combat itself is amazing compared to Baldur's Gate. Tactical positioning really matters, attacks of opportunity are implemented, every spell matter, everything flows perfectly. Bioware didn't elevate anything. They've butchered a pretty great system and even if DnD was trash and needed to by elevated by a video game it would already be done by Goldbox games.
    The only good idea regarding the system that came out of Bioware was getting rid of those silly level limits for nonhumans.
     
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  23. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    The original Baldur's Gate is the greatest D&D-based RPG of all-time, and the 4th-greatest RPG of all-time.

    It makes the Goldbox games seem like pieces of shit in comparison.

    Read this authoritative retrospective, and despair [link].
     
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  24. Parabalus Arcane

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    Fallout combat and UI are complete garbage.
     
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  25. Zboj Lamignat Arcane

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    Again, what's so horrible about Fallout's UI, apart from list-based inventory (which is objectively a shit design when implemented the way it is in Fallout, but doesn't really matter that much cause there's very little item juggling/trash collecting in the game)? I'm really surprised to still see this meme in 2020.

    And the combat is just very simplistic, with fun animations, not exactly "garbage" for the kind of game it features in. It sucked in FT, but that's because you should expect much more from a (theoretically) tactical, squad based PC game.
     
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