Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Crispy]

I really wish you'd stop posting in this thread, Fanta Doormat.

Point of fact: I wish you'd stop posting altogether.

 

[fantadomat]

I really wish you'd stop posting in this thread, Fanta Doormat.

Point of fact: I wish you'd stop posting altogether.

Then log off you butthurt cunt!

 

[alyvain]

The attention y'all give to the Underdark is weird. Are you afraid that now new pnp-players are gonna play campaigns only in the Underdark or what? Are you afraid for the purity of the Forgotten Realms?

You all well know that If the game is gonna be a shitshow it won't be because of the low-level Underdark.

The discussion of whether new tranny character model brings about the end of the Western civilization was at least genuine

 

[Crispy]

What a foolish DM attempts to pull off with his equally gullible players in the privacy of their own basement is one thing.

To attempt to create an official FR and D&D product that dismisses the very nature of one of the game universe's most notorious regions as being the stomping grounds of any newly-minted party is another entirely.

 

[Thac0]

What a foolish DM attempts to pull off with his equally gullible players in the privacy of their own basement is one thing.

To attempt to create an official FR and D&D product that dismisses the very nature of one of the game universe's most notorious regions as being the stomping grounds of any newly-minted party is another entirely.

A little bit late for that, Out of the Abyss, the 5e Underdark adventure is known to be aggressively mediocre and a ton of tedium. Not the way you want the Underdark to be known.

 

[Crispy]

Decline. Decline everywhere.

*sticks his head back in the sand*

 

[Ontopoly]

Knowing Larian you'll get through it at level 3 then every npc will praise you and be amazed that you were able to get through it. There will be a disconnect between story and gameplay where you're left thinking " that was super easy, why's everyone treating me like a hero." But if you're playing the game you're a Larian cultist which means you'll probably also think something like "wow, maybe getting through the under dark was epic, this game is epic, Larian is epic, swen himself is epic. Game of the year. I'm so bad ass I got through the under dark. I remember that nerfed brain puppy I killed. That was epic. I'm epic. This game is epic. I'm so glad Larian made bg3. If it was in any other studios hands they would fail. Larian was the right choice."

Anyways,KrispyKreme agrees with me. This game and all you fan boys are decline

 

[Cryomancer]

In AD&D, a mage at lvl 5 could still die to a casual arrow crit to the face, in these adventures you are already battling demons and agents of deities.

This is why 2e was great. You get almost no hp past lv 10. And the numbers are low, everything has high lethality. When i did a no re-roll run of BG2, my mage ended at high level with 42 hp. Since i had low CON. Literally every fighter on my party could kill him in half round.

A clever DM could pull off starting a level 1 campaign in the Underdark. I'll have to check out the module mentioned. But it would be very tricky, imo.

If the players had like 10 backup characters, the leveling is by milestone not by killing and their objective is to escape and the players enjoy high risky games, not to kill stuff on underdark, it CAN be interesting.

Lmao Swen and treading carefully. Larian isnt known for their subtletiy.

That is my fear. That larian will NERF everything to make underdark playable for a max level 10 party.

All D&D adaptations which has underdark are mid to high or even epic levels.

• NWN1 - HotU starts at lv 15. And you only goes down to the underdark on chapter 2.
• BG2 you only venture on underdark when you have the slayer form and has a six party member
• DDO menace of the underdark is a high level/epic level campaign.

To attempt to create an official FR and D&D product that dismisses the very nature of one of the game universe's most notorious regions as being the stomping grounds of any newly-minted party is another entirely.

WotC had no problem with games like SCL and tons of mobile cashgrabs. They don't care about the nature of one of the "most notorious regions"... Then don't even care about making the game mechanics reflex the game lore. See 4e. A wow clone in TT.

 

[catfood]

Heh. They couldn't help themselves and made even the half-elf waifu ugly. Larianfags will defend this.

The first one has a man-jaw and beard shadow. I'm not surprised the Codex is devastated by the change.

Fuck off! The first one is a lot more fuckable than that retard in the second pic. Clearly Swen got butthurt that people prefer the tranny elf over this nose hook porn fetish or the faggots. Thus he decided to just uglify the poor pixel lass.

PS:You have shit taste of wenches lol.

I'd rather have shit taste for wenches, than have good taste for trannies like you.

 

[Ontopoly]

Unless the party in the back represents your various tags I want to know who you take into battle before judging who wins.

1. Obviously myself
2. Jaheira, always
3. Aerie
4 viconia
5. Imoen
6. Nalia

 

[Fedora Master]

Why does this thread attract so many posters with terrible English? Really makes you think.

 

[Readher]

Isn't the "new" Shadowheart look just a customized PC variant of her? I imagine if you pick an origin character, you can customize it within its "rules" (i.e. no gender or race change, just looks). You can spot Shadowheart with her old design multiple times during the trailer and I believe people complained that there was a distinct lack of custom PC characters shown before, so Larian probably wanted to rectify that to some extent.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Will there be a checkbox "Culturally enrich" in the customization options?

 

[NJClaw]

This is fun because Ontopoly is a dum-dum who talk to his Larian-shilling imaginary friends.

Spoiler

I'm just joking Onto, you know I love you and the Larian shills are real.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Why does this thread attract so many posters with terrible English? Really makes you think.

English has been terrible for a long time.

 

[Doktor Best]

If you cant survive below a certain level in the underdark, how do drow/duergar gain their first level ups?

 

[Lacrymas]

Drow and Duergar are born in defended cities. They don't roam around the Underdark like the party in Out of the Abyss.

 

[Elex]

It's only not a big deal if you use "custom" creatures for the Underdark and Avernus sections. Which they do -

The first appendix is basically all the creatures you can encounter in Out of the Abyss, the others come from Descent into Avernus. A Reaper of Bhaal has a CR of 2. They purposefully create new creatures/enemies to put them in low level campaigns when they take place in what should be high level areas.

bhaal and bane cultist are really strong they have nasty stuff like advantage and and double damage (vulnerability). Myrkul cultist instead just throw necrotic damage fireball at lvl 2 partyes.

 

[Elex]

What a foolish DM attempts to pull off with his equally gullible players in the privacy of their own basement is one thing.

To attempt to create an official FR and D&D product that dismisses the very nature of one of the game universe's most notorious regions as being the stomping grounds of any newly-minted party is another entirely.

Ask this guy the answer will surprise you: ( he will anwer that is perfectly viable starting a campaign in the underdark if you avoid trying to genocide a drow city)

https://mobile.twitter.com/theedverse

 

[ERYFKRAD]

perfectly viable starting a campaign in the underdark if you avoid trying to genocide a drow city

What's even the point though if you're not genociding the elves?

 

[Swen]

Why is everyone cyring about the underdark and D&D lore?

I don't think you virgins got the message yet; BGIII and what Larian decides to do IS the new D&D lore, approved by WOTC.

 

[Doktor Best]

Drow and Duergar are born in defended cities. They don't roam around the Underdark like the party in Out of the Abyss.

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say. There must be opportunity for low level adventure in the Underdark, else there would be no low level adventure groups. You could say of course that the evolutionary pressure on those groups is extraordinarily high, but the chance of survival must be higher than zero in order for this logic to function at all.

Point is, in the Underdark there should be areas that are more dangerous than others and also areas that are more "safe". We dont know where Larian will take us, how long we will be down there and so on. I know we have not that much else to do than talk about the few infos we got, but i for one will save my judgement on this design decision for when i know more.

 

[Ontopoly]

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say.

You ever play toee?

 

[Ontopoly]

This is fun because Ontopoly is a dum-dum who talk to his Larian-shilling imaginary friends.

Spoiler

I'm just joking Onto, you know I love you and the Larian shills are real.

They aren't imaginary. We're a collective. Our numbers include myself, plenty of people on this forum, and even Josh Sawyer. He won't come out with it publicly because it would burn some bridges in the industry but if you look at his tweets you can tell he's one of us. I'm sure of it. He's subtle though because he has to be

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say. There must be opportunity for low level adventure in the Underdark, else there would be no low level adventure groups. You could say of course that the evolutionary pressure on those groups is extraordinarily high, but the chance of survival must be higher than zero in order for this logic to function at all.

Point is, in the Underdark there should be areas that are more dangerous than others and also areas that are more "safe". We dont know where Larian will take us, how long we will be down there and so on. I know we have not that much else to do than talk about the few infos we got, but i for one will save my judgement on this design decision for when i know more.

Yeah, the safe areas are the Duergar and Drow cities, like Menzoberranzan and Gracklstugh. Here's the thing, though, the levels don't exist lore-wise, they are for our benefit, so the Drow and Duergar have adapted to the inhospitable environment due to having lived there their entire life. That means they can get a free pass due to experience, other assorted races and adventurers don't. Out of the Abyss features 8 (!!) NPCs who can escape with you and help you out too. Even then, OotA is mediocre to a fault and tedious to run. It relies on encounters with low level duergar raiding parties and a very limited selection of low level Underdark creatures (probably created for this module specifically).