Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[NJClaw]

Is that a thing or are you just joking?




Please tell me that it is a joke.

I have no idea at what level we go there, but it's less than 10. I guess we'll find out in 2 days.

5e is the worst D&D garbage and DOS3 will be an epic example of how shit it is. The lore doesn't make any sense,the mechanics are gimmicky shit,the writing is retarded...there is no redeeming qualities in this game.

Cool man, did you play the early early access somehow? Can you let me in?

 

[fantadomat]

Is that a thing or are you just joking?




Please tell me that it is a joke.

I have no idea at what level we go there, but it's less than 10. I guess we'll find out in 2 days.

5e is the worst D&D garbage and DOS3 will be an epic example of how shit it is. The lore doesn't make any sense,the mechanics are gimmicky shit,the writing is retarded...there is no redeeming qualities in this game.

Cool man, did you play the early early access somehow? Can you let me in?

Sorry mate,i don't play unfinished games. Always wait for the release. You could ask Ontopoly ..... i mean swen,to give you a key to check it out. Maybe try out bribing him with some nose hook porn pics.

 

[Tom Selleck]

Should I d1p this?

 

[Lacrymas]

Not a huge deal in 5e, the level curve is very different.

It's only not a big deal if you use "custom" creatures for the Underdark and Avernus sections. Which they do -

The first appendix is basically all the creatures you can encounter in Out of the Abyss, the others come from Descent into Avernus. A Reaper of Bhaal has a CR of 2. They purposefully create new creatures/enemies to put them in low level campaigns when they take place in what should be high level areas.

 

[Thac0]

Not a huge deal in 5e, the level curve is very different.

It's only not a big deal if you use "custom" creatures for the Underdark and Avernus sections. Which they do -

The first appendix is basically all the creatures you can encounter in Out of the Abyss, the others come from Descent into Avernus. A Reaper of Bhaal has a CR of 2. They purposefully create new creatures/enemies to put them in low level campaigns when they take place in what should be high level areas.

Oh well, thats kinda cancerous. Only 5e adventures I own are Storm Kings Thunder and Curse of Strahd so I didnt see this problem yet. Why would anyone take level scaling and bring it to pen&paper of all places?

 

[Lacrymas]

It's technically not level scaling, they are completely new creatures that are simply low level. They don't scale with the party or anything.

 

[Thac0]

It's technically not level scaling, they are completely new creatures that are simply low level. They don't scale with the party or anything.

Fair, its taking one of the disadvantages of uncapped level scaling in creatures whose power heavily mismatches their lore capabilties specifically.

Although looking at that list again the new creatures from Out of the Abyss dont look terribly mismatched for what they are. And the Avernus dudes are all humans despite the imposing names.
The adventures use the stat blocks of known monsters aswell in combination to new ones, so maybe this will be less of a problem than it seems.

 

[Lacrymas]

They aren't mismatched as creature vs level, but they are mismatched as level vs zone. Only Out of the Abyss and Descent into Avernus show this extensively, though, due to the nature of where they take place. This makes all the different regions and domains just window dressing that doesn't match its lore. In AD&D, a mage at lvl 5 could still die to a casual arrow crit to the face, in these adventures you are already battling demons and agents of deities.

 

[Ontopoly]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of the under dark. It's suppose to be all dangerous and scary and intimidating but it hasn't been for a really long time

 

[NJClaw]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of the under dark. It's suppose to be all dangerous and scary and intimidating but it hasn't been for a really long time

The Underdark is full of talking mushrooms and black people, it's scary only if you are a parent worried about drugs or a racist.

 

[Ontopoly]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of the under dark. It's suppose to be all dangerous and scary and intimidating but it hasn't been for a really long time

The Underdark is full of talking mushrooms and black people, it's scary only if you are a parent worried about drugs or a racist.

Lmao, the underdork is full of euros in blackface obssessed with bdsm, evil midgets in blackface, rapey tentacle guys and fish people. Only a total weirdo incel would not get bad vibes from it.

 

[RPK]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of the under dark. It's suppose to be all dangerous and scary and intimidating but it hasn't been for a really long time

The Underdark is full of talking mushrooms and black people, it's scary only if you are a parent worried about drugs or a racist.

the drow are all misunderstood social outcasts now anyway, right? :D

 

[Ontopoly]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of the under dark. It's suppose to be all dangerous and scary and intimidating but it hasn't been for a really long time

The Underdark is full of talking mushrooms and black people, it's scary only if you are a parent worried about drugs or a racist.

the drow are all misunderstood social outcasts now anyway, right? :D

Poor child murdering, slaving, raping, misunderstood drow. Who thought it was a good idea to make them black? Surely it didn't fly even back then, right?

 

[RPK]

I feel like it goes against the spirit of the under dark. It's suppose to be all dangerous and scary and intimidating but it hasn't been for a really long time

The Underdark is full of talking mushrooms and black people, it's scary only if you are a parent worried about drugs or a racist.

the drow are all misunderstood social outcasts now anyway, right? :D

Poor child murdering, slaving, raping, misunderstood drow. Who thought it was a good idea to make them black? Surely it didn't fly even back then, right?

strangly, they seem to be more purple than black in most depictions.

 

[Dodo1610]

The drow are neither particularly evil nor dangerous in the forgotten realms, they are edgy purple elves.

 

[Lacrymas]

Drow are probably an adaptation of the dark elves from Tolkien, the ones who don't want to see the light of the two trees of Valinor. And in Tolkien, everything evil is black. I don't think either Gygax or Tolkien taught of black people when they wanted the color black to symbolize evil (Tolkien actually described orcs as "the most repulsive versions of the Mongol-types man can imagine"), it's a cultural thing with the color black, along with many other meanings of it, like elegance, solemnity, classiness, grief.

 

[Xamenos]

Drow are probably an adaptation of the dark elves from Tolkien, the ones who don't want to see the light of the two trees of Valinor. And in Tolkien, everything evil is black. I don't think either Gygax or Tolkien taught of black people when they wanted the color black to symbolize evil (Tolkien actually described orcs as "the most repulsive versions of the Mongol-types man can imagine"), it's a cultural thing with the color black, along with many other meanings of it, like elegance, solemnity, classiness, grief.

Just you wait, it won't be long before widows wearing black will be considered racist.

 

[Saravan]

 

[Ontopoly]

I'm more of a cleric but back to the picture. The beholder losses in that. Thanks for the vote of confidence

 

[Ontopoly]

 

[Thac0]

I'm more of a cleric but back to the picture. The beholder losses in that. Thanks for the vote of confidence

Unless the party in the back represents your various tags I want to know who you take into battle before judging who wins.

 

[Crispy]

A clever DM could pull off starting a level 1 campaign in the Underdark. I'll have to check out the module mentioned. But it would be very tricky, imo.

The Underdark, regardless of the milieu, is supposed to represent among the most deadly environments anywhere. It is universally inhospitable to humans, most unwelcoming, and often utterly alien. For a level one party to survive to the point where they could start venturing forth in the general environs of the Underdark at large, they'd have to be sheltered in some city that is either friendly to humans/demihumans or at least allows them the freedom to adventure within a very controlled environment in order for them to gain experience and levels.

If, however, the adventure in question just throws them into the Underdark wilds willy-nilly, then any depiction of that adventure is going to be one in denial; although a lowly party of inexperienced adventurers might make it a few if not even a few score miles, presumably upwards towards the surface, no version of the Underdark should be without a genuinely lethal encounter just around the bend consisting of any number of capricious or simply ravenous creatures ready to enslave or consume or rend our intrepid noobs into strips of red flesh.

If BG3 tries to pull this off, Swen had better tread carefully. You just don't mess around in the Underdark.

 

[Thac0]

A clever DM could pull off starting a level 1 campaign in the Underdark. I'll have to check out the module mentioned. But it would be very tricky, imo.

The Underdark, regardless of the milieu, is supposed to represent among the most deadly environments anywhere. It is universally inhospitable to humans, most unwelcoming, and often utterly alien. For a level one party to survive to the point where they could start venturing forth in the general environs of the Underdark at large, they'd have to be sheltered in some city that is either friendly to humans/demihumans or at least allows them the freedom to adventure within a very controlled environment in order for them to gain experience and levels.

If, however, the adventure in question just throws them into the Underdark wilds willy-nilly, than any depiction of that adventure is going to be one in denial; although a lowly party of inexperienced adventurers might make it a few if not even a few score miles, presumably upwards towards the surface, no version of the Underdark should be without a genuinely lethal encounter just around the bend consisting of any number of capricious or simply ravenous creatures ready to enslave or consume or rend our intrepid noobs into strips of red flesh.

If BG3 tries to pull this off, Swen had better tread carefully. You just don't mess around in the Underdark.

Lmao Swen and treading carefully. Larian isnt known for their subtletiy.

 

[Fenix]

Just you wait, it won't be long before widows wearing black will be considered racist.

Everythng that whites will be doing that healthy and useful for them like normal people do will be cnsidered racist.

 

[fantadomat]

A clever DM could pull off starting a level 1 campaign in the Underdark. I'll have to check out the module mentioned. But it would be very tricky, imo.

The Underdark, regardless of the milieu, is supposed to represent among the most deadly environments anywhere. It is universally inhospitable to humans, most unwelcoming, and often utterly alien. For a level one party to survive to the point where they could start venturing forth in the general environs of the Underdark at large, they'd have to be sheltered in some city that is either friendly to humans/demihumans or at least allows them the freedom to adventure within a very controlled environment in order for them to gain experience and levels.

If, however, the adventure in question just throws them into the Underdark wilds willy-nilly, than any depiction of that adventure is going to be one in denial; although a lowly party of inexperienced adventurers might make it a few if not even a few score miles, presumably upwards towards the surface, no version of the Underdark should be without a genuinely lethal encounter just around the bend consisting of any number of capricious or simply ravenous creatures ready to enslave or consume or rend our intrepid noobs into strips of red flesh.

If BG3 tries to pull this off, Swen had better tread carefully. You just don't mess around in the Underdark.

Why the fuck would you do a underdark campaign playing as inferior surface dwellers??? Clearly if you want to do a fun underdark campaign you make it with drows,low level raiding surface camps,butchering and raping everything in their path. You could also do low level undead and rats dungeon. There is plenty of opportunity for low level neutral/evil drow party lol. There is there is plenty of low-mid level creatures that you could kill,like kobolts,goblins,orks,dwarfs,dwemers etc etc.