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[Ontopoly]

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say. There must be opportunity for low level adventure in the Underdark, else there would be no low level adventure groups. You could say of course that the evolutionary pressure on those groups is extraordinarily high, but the chance of survival must be higher than zero in order for this logic to function at all.

Point is, in the Underdark there should be areas that are more dangerous than others and also areas that are more "safe". We dont know where Larian will take us, how long we will be down there and so on. I know we have not that much else to do than talk about the few infos we got, but i for one will save my judgement on this design decision for when i know more.

Yeah, the safe areas are the Duergar and Drow cities, like Menzoberranzan and Gracklstugh. Here's the thing, though, the levels don't exist lore-wise, they are for our benefit, so the Drow and Duergar have adapted to the inhospitable environment due to having lived there their entire life. That means they can get a free pass due to experience, other assorted races and adventurers don't. Out of the Abyss features 8 (!!) NPCs who can escape with you and help you out too.

Drizzt went to school to level up before he went and did anything too dangerous. Just got to go to school

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say. There must be opportunity for low level adventure in the Underdark, else there would be no low level adventure groups. You could say of course that the evolutionary pressure on those groups is extraordinarily high, but the chance of survival must be higher than zero in order for this logic to function at all.

Point is, in the Underdark there should be areas that are more dangerous than others and also areas that are more "safe". We dont know where Larian will take us, how long we will be down there and so on. I know we have not that much else to do than talk about the few infos we got, but i for one will save my judgement on this design decision for when i know more.

Yeah, the safe areas are the Duergar and Drow cities, like Menzoberranzan and Gracklstugh. Here's the thing, though, the levels don't exist lore-wise, they are for our benefit, so the Drow and Duergar have adapted to the inhospitable environment due to having lived there their entire life. That means they can get a free pass due to experience, other assorted races and adventurers don't. Out of the Abyss features 8 (!!) NPCs who can escape with you and help you out too.

Drizzt went to school to level up before he went and did anything too dangerous. Just got to go to school

Adventurers have enrolled into the school of life.

 

[Elex]

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say. There must be opportunity for low level adventure in the Underdark, else there would be no low level adventure groups. You could say of course that the evolutionary pressure on those groups is extraordinarily high, but the chance of survival must be higher than zero in order for this logic to function at all.

Point is, in the Underdark there should be areas that are more dangerous than others and also areas that are more "safe". We dont know where Larian will take us, how long we will be down there and so on. I know we have not that much else to do than talk about the few infos we got, but i for one will save my judgement on this design decision for when i know more.

Yeah, the safe areas are the Duergar and Drow cities, like Menzoberranzan and Gracklstugh. Here's the thing, though, the levels don't exist lore-wise, they are for our benefit, so the Drow and Duergar have adapted to the inhospitable environment due to having lived there their entire life. That means they can get a free pass due to experience, other assorted races and adventurers don't. Out of the Abyss features 8 (!!) NPCs who can escape with you and help you out too.

Drizzt went to school to level up before he went and did anything too dangerous. Just got to go to school

Adventurers have enrolled into the school of life.

Wizard: i need to study and research for improve my spellcasting abilty!!!
Also wizard: looting and killing can work too.

 

[Efe]

new look is too human

 

[Cryomancer]

Why is everyone cyring about the underdark and D&D lore?

I don't think you virgins got the message yet; BGIII and what Larian decides to do IS the new D&D lore, approved by WOTC.

LOL, Larian cultists are butthurt because if Larian and WoTC keeps destroying D&D things, BG3 will fail. Like 4e, SCL and other thing fail... Let Larian and WoTC destroy D&D, so Pathfinder can become the most played TTRPG again, and other TTRPG like Dark Eye will get more popular and this games are IMO far better than 5e.

PS nobody is virgin here. thanks to your mother, the cheapest whore ever. hu3hu3hu3hu3 (just kidding)

Wizard: i need to study and research for improve my spellcasting abilty!!!

Spell scrolls are expensive, so looting is a good way to get it. Anyway, this is why IMO milestone leveling > combat leveling.

 

[Sweeper]

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that people actually like Larian schlock.
On the fucking Codex.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GROGNARDS YOU DUMBFUCKS
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KNOW BETTER

 

[Spectacle]

Drow and Duergar are born in defended cities. They don't roam around the Underdark like the party in Out of the Abyss.

Yeah but if you lurk in the safety of cities, you won't gain any levels at all. You would stay a level zero npc so to say. There must be opportunity for low level adventure in the Underdark, else there would be no low level adventure groups. You could say of course that the evolutionary pressure on those groups is extraordinarily high, but the chance of survival must be higher than zero in order for this logic to function at all.

Point is, in the Underdark there should be areas that are more dangerous than others and also areas that are more "safe". We dont know where Larian will take us, how long we will be down there and so on. I know we have not that much else to do than talk about the few infos we got, but i for one will save my judgement on this design decision for when i know more.

The leveling rules are for Player Characters only. NPCs have whatever abilities the DM finds appropriate considering their background and training.

 

[Swen]

Why is everyone cyring about the underdark and D&D lore?

I don't think you virgins got the message yet; BGIII and what Larian decides to do IS the new D&D lore, approved by WOTC.

LOL, Larian cultists are butthurt because if Larian and WoTC keeps destroying D&D things, BG3 will fail. Like 4e, SCL and other thing fail... Let Larian and WoTC destroy D&D, so Pathfinder can become the most played TTRPG again, and other TTRPG like Dark Eye will get more popular and this games are IMO far better than 5e.

PS nobody is virgin here. thanks to your mother, the cheapest whore ever. hu3hu3hu3hu3 (just kidding)

 

[fantadomat]

Why is everyone cyring about the underdark and D&D lore?

I don't think you virgins got the message yet; BGIII and what Larian decides to do IS the new D&D lore, approved by WOTC.

LOL, Larian cultists are butthurt because if Larian and WoTC keeps destroying D&D things, BG3 will fail. Like 4e, SCL and other thing fail... Let Larian and WoTC destroy D&D, so Pathfinder can become the most played TTRPG again, and other TTRPG like Dark Eye will get more popular and this games are IMO far better than 5e.

PS nobody is virgin here. thanks to your mother, the cheapest whore ever. hu3hu3hu3hu3 (just kidding)

 

[AwesomeButton]

Very appropriate - Larian as the savages.

 

[Dodo1610]

Why is everyone cyring about the underdark and D&D lore?

I don't think you virgins got the message yet; BGIII and what Larian decides to do IS the new D&D lore, approved by WOTC.

LOL, Larian cultists are butthurt because if Larian and WoTC keeps destroying D&D things, BG3 will fail. Like 4e, SCL and other thing fail... Let Larian and WoTC destroy D&D, so Pathfinder can become the most played TTRPG again, and other TTRPG like Dark Eye will get more popular and this games are IMO far better than 5e.

PS nobody is virgin here. thanks to your mother, the cheapest whore ever. hu3hu3hu3hu3 (just kidding)

Wizard: i need to study and research for improve my spellcasting abilty!!!

Spell scrolls are expensive, so looting is a good way to get it. Anyway, this is why IMO milestone leveling > combat leveling.

Keep dreaming but the reality is that 5e is the most popular PNP RPG ever.
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/361599/2019_Was_Dungeons__Dragons_Best_Year_Ever.php

 

[Swen]

Why is everyone cyring about the underdark and D&D lore?

I don't think you virgins got the message yet; BGIII and what Larian decides to do IS the new D&D lore, approved by WOTC.

LOL, Larian cultists are butthurt because if Larian and WoTC keeps destroying D&D things, BG3 will fail. Like 4e, SCL and other thing fail... Let Larian and WoTC destroy D&D, so Pathfinder can become the most played TTRPG again, and other TTRPG like Dark Eye will get more popular and this games are IMO far better than 5e.

PS nobody is virgin here. thanks to your mother, the cheapest whore ever. hu3hu3hu3hu3 (just kidding)

Wizard: i need to study and research for improve my spellcasting abilty!!!

Spell scrolls are expensive, so looting is a good way to get it. Anyway, this is why IMO milestone leveling > combat leveling.

Keep dreaming but the reality is that 5e is the most popular PNP RPG ever.
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/361599/2019_Was_Dungeons__Dragons_Best_Year_Ever.php

Indeed, 5th edition is breaking records. D&D was never this popular.

BG III will be THE D&D game despite the butthurt crying virgin neckbeards seething on the codex.

Truly glorious times for me and Larian!

 

[Cryomancer]

Indeed, 5th edition is breaking records. D&D was never this popular.

BG III will be THE D&D game despite the butthurt crying virgin neckbeards seething on the codex.

Truly glorious times for me and Larian!

D&D 5e is only popular due brand recognition(thanks to TSR not WoTC) and because is ""accessible"". When ToWC destroyed everything about D&D, they got the 4e fiasco. Note that Swen would probably like 4e since it got rid of spell slots and you rarely miss... In high IQ countries like Germany, Dark Eye is more popular. And i live in a low IQ shithole and realize that nothing will change until the monarchy is restored(you can't have democracy in low IQ countries), so people here knows RPG's mostly by the fallout 4, skyrim and games about androgynous teenager with oversized swords saving the world.

 

[Curratum]

Indeed, 5th edition is breaking records. D&D was never this popular.

BG III will be THE D&D game despite the butthurt crying virgin neckbeards seething on the codex.

Truly glorious times for me and Larian!

D&D 5e is only popular due brand recognition(thanks to TSR not WoTC) and because is ""accessible"". When ToWC destroyed everything about D&D, they got the 4e fiasco. Note that Swen would probably like 4e since it got rid of spell slots and you rarely miss... In high IQ countries like Germany, Dark Eye is more popular. And i live in a low IQ shithole and realize that nothing will change until the monarchy is restored(you can't have democracy in low IQ countries), so people here knows RPG's mostly by the fallout 4, skyrim and games about androgynous teenager with oversized swords saving the world.

Do you even think a little when you type this nonsense? This is the dumbest, most misinformed shit I've read in months.

 

[Cryomancer]

Do you even think a little when you type this nonsense? This is the dumbest, most misinformed shit I've read in months.

Then prove me wrong.

4e was not a fiasco? 4e din't got rid of spell slots and made missing extremely rare like Swen advocate for? If another game without the brand recognition of D&D had launched the 5e rules, do you think that it will be popular? Or if 5e had more complex rules, do you think that low IQ people would be able to try it?

 

[Curratum]

There are flying pigs that live on mount Rushmore!

The leaves of trees sometimes turn to giant talking tadpoles!

Naysayer, prove me wrong!

Nah man, I try not to argue with people who don't even have the facts straight.

 

[Anonona]

Do you even think a little when you type this nonsense? This is the dumbest, most misinformed shit I've read in months.

Or if 5e had more complex rules, do you think that low IQ people would be able to try it?

You had played it

 

[NJClaw]

D&D 5e is only popular due brand recognition(thanks to TSR not WoTC) and because is ""accessible"". When ToWC destroyed everything about D&D, they got the 4e fiasco. Note that Swen would probably like 4e since it got rid of spell slots and you rarely miss... In high IQ countries like Germany, Dark Eye is more popular. And i live in a low IQ shithole and realize that nothing will change until the monarchy is restored(you can't have democracy in low IQ countries), so people here knows RPG's mostly by the fallout 4, skyrim and games about androgynous teenager with oversized swords saving the world.

Note that Swen would probably like 4e since it got rid of spell slots and you rarely miss...

4e [...] you rarely miss...

Man, have you ever even played D&D 4th edition? It's a fucking miss-fest from level 1 all the way up to level 30. Stats for both characters and monsters scale simultaneously in a very rigid way and you almost always have a 45-55% miss chance on every single attack for the entire game.

 

[Cryomancer]

a very rigid way and you almost always have a 45-55% miss chance on every single attack for the entire game.

Cool. Now look to 2e. How much likely a fighter at lv 1 is to hit a -2 AC plate armored guy with a sword?

Nah man, I try not to argue with people who don't even have the facts straight.

What facts?

And what's up with people from poor, low IQ shitholes hating on Larian?

I don't hate Larian. Larian is far better than BUGThesda and modern BioWare. I don't love either. When Larian does a good thing, i praise it, like i praised Divine Divinity and when they do a bad thing like putting underdark in a low level campaign, i criticize it.

- "I don't think that low level underdark will gonna work"
- "your virgin neckbeard, how dare you disagree with our lord and savior Swen"

That is how Larian cultists react. Anyway, just because i had the bad lucky of being born in a country with most first world nonsense like affirmative action programs and most third world problems, i an prohibited from criticizing Larian? I love OwlCat but what they did to sneak attack on pathfinder kingmaker is undefesnable for eg. Liking a company and worshiping a company are two different things.

 

[Infinitron]

Yeah, I think it's time to use more extreme measures in this thread.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Heh. They couldn't help themselves and made even the half-elf waifu ugly. Larianfags will defend this.

Before this thread gets split, I want to say that the second picture looks like a Bulgarian Gipsy bride, so I when Swen romances her, you shouldn't be surprised.

 

[Apostle Hand]

first picture is much better

 

[Lacrymas]

Man, have you ever even played D&D 4th edition?

Most of the people in this thread have never played PnP D&D, let alone 4E. That's why there are some brain gems like "5E is the shittiest of them all".

 

[AwesomeButton]

Man, have you ever even played D&D 4th edition?

Most of the people in this thread have never played PnP D&D, let alone 4E. That's why there are some brain gems like "5E is the shittiest of them all".

I admit - I've played Original D&D for one session, and then 2nd Ed. AD&D for half a campaign. I would say much more depends on the people you play with than on the system.

Unless the people are such that they make the system stand out.

We have the best beer, that's a fact. Lol at Czech beer. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone who knows something about beer.

Alright. I know something about EU beer. Don't ask about certain titles though. Belgian is a C tier at best, sorry, shill mate. German is a B tier, obviously and Czech is actually A tier. It's somewhat close to German but what can you do. Cheers!

Where do you put Bavarian?

 

[Cryomancer]

Most of the people in this thread have never played PnP D&D, let alone 4E. That's why there are some brain gems like "5E is the shittiest of them all".

There are long years since my last TT session, never played 5e, nor 4e BUT 5e is extremely rigged towards the party. While on 2e, your lv 10 mage probably can die in a single round to a sneaky archer, on 5e everything takes so much time to die that it destroyed some modules like Tomb of Horrors. And enemies, Liches which doesn't have even immunity to cold, only resistance...