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[Heroic Liberator]

Kodex Konsensus in regards to Disco Elysium

ok
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...e-admit-that-disco-elysium-is-decline.131120/

Sorry, comrade. Only authoritative konsensus is the one backed by a felipepepe poll.

You mean the one where he discards votes he dislikes?

One must vote... correctly.

 

[jackofshadows]

Yeah, dos2 has retarded writing too, but at least there is some combat.

Wha? I thought you said you never played dos2.

Disco Elysium is unexcusable. If there's one thing I hate more than Larianfaggotry, it's Discofaggotry.
And there would be no problem if people stopped calling it an RPG and just refered to it as what it is.
A visual novel posing as a CYOA.

It's absolutely unfathomable problem to me. Supposedly it should be either genre-purist related (which would be odd since there's no RPG definition and everybody can argue forever about it) or something stricktly combatfag-related.

In any case, I've enjoyed DE greatly on a level I've enjoyed some combatfagish games like Underrail or Wizardry 8 if I take something recent (for me). DOS 2, on the other hand, at least in a SP mode is unbeleivable snore-fest with only a few exciting encounters at the beginning. So, why should I care about some genre-purists if the one game is gud and the other is not? The devs advertising DE as an RPG, it's enough for me.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

The devs advertising DE as an RPG, it's enough for me.

Agreed.

Spoiler

 

[fantadomat]

Kodex Konsensus in regards to Disco Elysium

ok
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...e-admit-that-disco-elysium-is-decline.131120/

Sorry, comrade. Only authoritative konsensus is the one backed by a felipepepe poll.

You mean the one where he discards votes he dislikes?

It was a goty in my goty thread too .

 

[Sweeper]

It's absolutely unfathomable problem to me. Supposedly it should be either genre-purist related (which would be odd since there's no RPG definition and everybody can argue forever about it) or something stricktly combatfag-related.

In any case, I've enjoyed DE greatly on a level I've enjoyed some combatfagish games like Underrail or Wizardry 8 if I take something recent (for me). DOS 2, on the other hand, at least in a SP mode is unbeleivable snore-fest with only a few exciting encounters at the beginning. So, why should I care about some genre-purists if the one game is gud and the other is not? The devs advertising DE as an RPG, it's enough for me.

Cause it's that kind of relativism that leads to all kinds of other shit, RPG related or otherwise. I mean fuck it, if the lines of RPGs are so blury why not declare the new CoD an RPG? Either shit has meaning or it doesn't, and if it doesn't then why the fuck are we talking about it?
Regardless of what other base requirements a game needs to be considered an RPG, at the bare minimum it does require some form of combat.
You enjoyed Disco? Great, I'm happy for you. But move the discussion related to that game to general gaming discussion and take the fucking thing off of GOTY.

 

[Takamori]

DoS2 had a plain writing, nothing superb but it wasn't pure shit (except the sex scenes though).
Overall it had a really fun gameplay experience and lots scenario interactivity, so as a game in general justify the label of GOTY.
Disco Elysium I still need to play it to know if it over hyped or not.

 

[Mikeal]

You know what else was GOTY? Disco Elysium.
Turns out the Codex is pretty retarded.

Took you two years to notice?

 

[Thac0]

fun gameplay experience

Thats not what I would call incredible number bloat, stunlocking the game, a turn robbing initiative system and a surface system that often stuns your dudes for completely retarded reasons, like using flesh sacrifice on any surface triggers a proc from that surface against you, although you are not moving. Also the gameplay mechanics heavily disincentivise building hybrid characters, or even hybrid parties, since the strongest party in the game is two dudes running lone wolf and dealing both the same damage type, to absolutely melt through enemies.
From a gameplay side it is innovative, but whenever it moves the cracks start showing.

scenario interactivity

Yep

GOTY

ELEX!

 

[Prime Junta]

Kodex Konsensus in regards to Disco Elysium

ok
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...e-admit-that-disco-elysium-is-decline.131120/

Sorry, comrade. Only authoritative konsensus is the one backed by a felipepepe poll.

You mean the one where he discards votes he dislikes?

It was a goty in my goty thread too .

It's certainly triggering all the right people.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

People who bring-up Disco Elysium seem to have forgotten what was the competition back then

Though I enjoyed Bloodstained much more

 

[Dodo1610]

People started hating on DE once the press/Twitter verified crowd started praising it for some reason.

 

[jackofshadows]

It's absolutely unfathomable problem to me. Supposedly it should be either genre-purist related (which would be odd since there's no RPG definition and everybody can argue forever about it) or something stricktly combatfag-related.

In any case, I've enjoyed DE greatly on a level I've enjoyed some combatfagish games like Underrail or Wizardry 8 if I take something recent (for me). DOS 2, on the other hand, at least in a SP mode is unbeleivable snore-fest with only a few exciting encounters at the beginning. So, why should I care about some genre-purists if the one game is gud and the other is not? The devs advertising DE as an RPG, it's enough for me.

Cause it's that kind of relativism that leads to all kinds of other shit, RPG related or otherwise. I mean fuck it, if the lines of RPGs are so blury why not declare the new CoD an RPG? Either shit has meaning or it doesn't, and if it doesn't then why the fuck are we talking about it?
Regardless of what other base requirements a game needs to be considered an RPG, at the bare minimum it does require some form of combat.
You enjoyed Disco? Great, I'm happy for you. But move the discussion related to that game to general gaming discussion and take the fucking thing off of GOTY.

Why declaring it though? It's all about catering to target audience, right? So in DE case devs have decided that it might interest people who like RPGs the most. Yes, it's not that simple and the game roots lies in PnP but the final product turned out to be rather unique so they had some room for advertising, as I see it. Were they right about that course? I'd say yes, they were.

Now, about label itself: since lines are indeed blurry it doesn't mean shit by itself and I beleive it's out of our hands to change that. It's futile. Obvilion was also advertised as an RPG and that's fine; I just call it appropriate adjectives and be done with it. All that doesn't mean we should stop discussing what is what, obviously.

 

[The_Mask]

Imagine ELEX being RPOTY, a game having references and easter eggs of other games, meanwhile Disco kills you within 5s of starting the game, with no references to other games.

 

[Sweeper]

Took you two years to notice?

Turns out I, like the codex, am also retarded.

Why declaring it though? It's all about catering to target audience, right? So in DE case devs have decided that it might interest people who like RPGs the most. Yes, it's not that simple and the game roots lies in PnP but the final product turned out to be rather unique so they had some room for advertising, as I see it. Were they right about that course? I'd say yes, they were.

Now, about label itself: since lines are indeed blurry it doesn't mean shit by itself and I beleive it's out of our hands to change that. It's futile. Obvilion was also advertised as an RPG and that's fine; I just call it appropriate adjectives and be done with it. All that doesn't mean we should stop discussing what is what, obviously.

Alls I'm saying is, it ain't an RPG, and the fact you fags let it slide into GOTY is a Goddamn disgrace.
The name of this once glorious and prestigious website will now forever be marred by this mistake.

 

[fantadomat]

People who bring-up Disco Elysium seem to have forgotten what was the competition back then

Though I enjoyed Bloodstained much more

lol i don't,in my pool,disco did won first place,fallowed by the meme answer of Anthem and in third place was obsidian's outer farts.

 

[fantadomat]

Imagine ELEX being RPOTY, a game having references and easter eggs of other games, meanwhile Disco kills you within 5s of starting the game, with no references to other games.

Don't see what is the problem of both being gotys. Both of them are good games. I have noticed that most of kodexers bitching about people liking some kind of a game are people that haven't played rpg in 10-15 year time.

 

[The_Mask]

Don't see what is the problem of both being gotys. Both of them are good games. I have noticed that most of kodexers bitching about people liking some kind of a game are people that haven't played rpg in 10-15 year time.

I'm just calling out hypocrisy as I see it. I've beat ELEX, and it is, indeed, a pretty good game. So is DE. But edgy kids be edgy.

 

[fantadomat]

Don't see what is the problem of both being gotys. Both of them are good games. I have noticed that most of kodexers bitching about people liking some kind of a game are people that haven't played rpg in 10-15 year time.

I'm just calling out hypocrisy as I see it. I've beat ELEX, and it is, indeed, a pretty good game. So is DE. But edgy kids be edgy.

It is not really edgy kids mate,it is dullard grandpas. The codex does have a problem with retarded posers.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

People started hating on DE once the press/Twitter verified crowd started praising it for some reason.

Nobody is hating on it, it's just not an RPG.
There's an entire section of this forum dedicated to games like DE:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/forums/adventure-gaming.24/

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

But Win 10 isn't the best thing in the world and "upgrading" to it will break who knows how many compatibilities with old games.

I've now formally migrated my home PC being Linux. I'm hoping that with them developing it for Stadia, that they'll also create a proper Linux version. Not going to hold my breath though.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

People who bring-up Disco Elysium seem to have forgotten what was the competition back then

Though I enjoyed Bloodstained much more

sure looks like Titan Outpost won to me.
Congrats on 2019 RPGCodex GOTY, MF

 

[Sweeper]

Nobody is hating on it, it's just not an RPG.
There's an entire section of this forum dedicated to games like DE:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/forums/adventure-gaming.24/

God fucking damn you all for making me agree with rusty.

 

[fantadomat]

Nobody is hating on it, it's just not an RPG.
There's an entire section of this forum dedicated to games like DE:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/forums/adventure-gaming.24/

God fucking damn you all for making me agree with rusty.

Hahaha,rusty is ok,only half of his opinions are retarded. Some times he is pretty ok and has a normal taste and views. It is one of those guys that you judge by his post not by himself. I think that he would have ended up pretty cool mate if he wasn't born and raised in kwanza.

 

[Erebus]

This thread about a game that hasn't even been released yet is now longer than the thread about Kingmaker. I guess name recognition and blind nostalgia really do work wonders.

 

[Lilliput McHammersmith]

This thread about a game that hasn't even been released yet is now longer than the thread about Kingmaker. I guess name recognition and blind nostalgia really do work wonders.

It’s mostly pages and pages of REEEEEEEEEing about it being Turn-Based and looking too much like D:OS2.