Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Raghar]

Official D&D lore has absorbed elements from various creators campaigns since the beginning. That doesn't mean the entire campaign is canon, only the elements that are actually put in print.

https://dnd.wizards.com/products/wildemount
so you missed the entire D&D wotc book that make exandria one official D&D setting?

Exactly. Whatever goes into print is official, stuff that's not printed isn't. What is your point?

The continent described in the book don’t exist in a void: the entire setting is canon, like the entire forgotten realms are canon even the part with no books based on them.

in particular: the event in the book are connected directly with the second critical role campaign!

What is this "entire forgotten realms" that's not from the books?

Book Of Roguish Luck.pdf 3M
Champions Of Ruin.pdf 6M
Champions Of Valor.pdf 13M
City Of Splendors - Waterdeep.pdf 18M
Dragons Of Faerun.pdf 41M
Faiths And Pantheons.pdf 40M
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.pdf 57M
Forgotten Realms Dungeon Master's Screen.pdf 2M
Grand History of the Realms.pdf 23M
Lords of Darkness.pdf 4M
Lost Empires Of Faerun.pdf 22M
Magic Of Faerun.pdf 4M
Monsters of Faerun.pdf 7M
Mysteries of the Moonsea.pdf 14M
Player's Guide To Faerun.pdf 6M
Power of Faerûn.pdf 45M
Races Of Faerun.pdf 4M
Serpent Kingdoms.pdf 7M
Shining South.pdf 8M
Silver Marches.pdf 30M
Unapproachable East.pdf 4M
Underdark.pdf 7M

Probably this one?

 

[Xamenos]

Official D&D lore has absorbed elements from various creators campaigns since the beginning. That doesn't mean the entire campaign is canon, only the elements that are actually put in print.

https://dnd.wizards.com/products/wildemount
so you missed the entire D&D wotc book that make exandria one official D&D setting?

Exactly. Whatever goes into print is official, stuff that's not printed isn't. What is your point?

The continent described in the book don’t exist in a void: the entire setting is canon, like the entire forgotten realms are canon even the part with no books based on them.

in particular: the event in the book are connected directly with the second critical role campaign!

What is this "entire forgotten realms" that's not from the books?

Book Of Roguish Luck.pdf 3M
Champions Of Ruin.pdf 6M
Champions Of Valor.pdf 13M
City Of Splendors - Waterdeep.pdf 18M
Dragons Of Faerun.pdf 41M
Faiths And Pantheons.pdf 40M
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.pdf 57M
Forgotten Realms Dungeon Master's Screen.pdf 2M
Grand History of the Realms.pdf 23M
Lords of Darkness.pdf 4M
Lost Empires Of Faerun.pdf 22M
Magic Of Faerun.pdf 4M
Monsters of Faerun.pdf 7M
Mysteries of the Moonsea.pdf 14M
Player's Guide To Faerun.pdf 6M
Power of Faerûn.pdf 45M
Races Of Faerun.pdf 4M
Serpent Kingdoms.pdf 7M
Shining South.pdf 8M
Silver Marches.pdf 30M
Unapproachable East.pdf 4M
Underdark.pdf 7M

Probably this one?

How many of those books are from 5e?

(Yes, I know the answer)

 

[Joseph Stalin]

This is ironic, considering that initially BioWare chose the Sword Coast as the region to set their games in precisely because nothing within other Forgotten Realms media was happening within that part of the world.

 

[NJClaw]

So going through the prequel adventure Decent into Avernus at least one of the critical role characters is cannon thus making the setting and all the characters apart of the universe. Originally I thought they were their own world and had zero cross over.

Specifically it's this guy called Arkhan the Cruel. So if anyone is wondering where the hand of Vecna is in cannon lore it's in hell and he's trying to use it to free Tiamat.

Oh, no... That doesn't necessarily mean the character's gonna feature in the videogame, right? Right, guys? One of the things I liked in the BG3 promos was the complete lack of Dragonborn. Don't do it, Swen, my ass can only take so much... You can't do anything about nü-Tieflings and chaotic Pallies, but you can still say no to scalies!

They really can't say no to scalies, since they already said that they are going to implement every class and race from the Player's Handbook and the dragonborn race is in there.

 

[Lacrymas]

They really can't say no to scalies, since they already said that they are going to implement every class and race from the Player's Handbook and the dragonborn race is in there.

That page was missing, funny that.

 

[NJClaw]

They really can't say no to scalies, since they already said that they are going to implement every class and race from the Player's Handbook and the dragonborn race is in there.

That page was missing, funny that.

Here, don't worry, let me help you :

Also, as a bonus, the worst druid illustration ever created for this game:

Hey, at least the otter is cute.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Also, as a bonus, the worst druid illustration ever created for this game:

The art has been ugly for decades now

 

[Gargaune]

They really can't say no to scalies, since they already said that they are going to implement every class and race from the Player's Handbook and the dragonborn race is in there.

I realise there's no escaping the only race to out-edge dual-wielding Drow rangers in character creation, but I was hoping there wouldn't be any Dragonborn NPCs lumbering around. I've banned them at my table (along with reintroducing proper alignment restrictions), and I'd like to continue pretending like they never happened.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Dragonwrought Kobolds >>> dumb furry/scaly shit

 

[Joseph Stalin]

They really can't say no to scalies, since they already said that they are going to implement every class and race from the Player's Handbook and the dragonborn race is in there.

I realise there's no escaping the only race to out-edge dual-wielding Drow rangers in character creation, but I was hoping there wouldn't be any Dragonborn NPCs lumbering around. I've banned them at my table (along with reintroducing proper alignment restrictions), and I'd like to continue pretending like they never happened.

I'm not up to date with the lore on them - what's wrong with Dragonborn?

 

[Gargaune]

I'm not up to date with the lore on them - what's wrong with Dragonborn?

They're dragon people. What more do you need?

 

[NJClaw]

I'm not up to date with the lore on them - what's wrong with Dragonborn?

I'm going to quickly summarize the entire lore behind dragonborns in D&D 5, here we go:

 

[Ghulgothas]

It's Dungeons & Dragons, if I can't play as a dragon then what's the point?

 

[Spectacle]

It's Dungeons & Dragons, if I can't play as a dragon then what's the point?

Good point. Maybe Dungeonborn will be a new race in 6E?

 

[NJClaw]

It's Dungeons & Dragons, if I can't play as a dragon then what's the point?

Good point. Maybe Dungeonborn will be a new race in 6E?

D&D 3.5 already had the "dungeonbred" template (from the Dungeonscape handbook).

 

[J1M]

It's Dungeons & Dragons, if I can't play as a dragon then what's the point?

Good point. Maybe Dungeonborn will be a new race in 6E?

More of a background really. That's good though because it means you can make a dungeonborn dragonborn. Hopefully 7e will bring us the ampersandborn breath weapon.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

They really can't say no to scalies, since they already said that they are going to implement every class and race from the Player's Handbook and the dragonborn race is in there.

I realise there's no escaping the only race to out-edge dual-wielding Drow rangers in character creation, but I was hoping there wouldn't be any Dragonborn NPCs lumbering around. I've banned them at my table (along with reintroducing proper alignment restrictions), and I'd like to continue pretending like they never happened.

I'm not up to date with the lore on them - what's wrong with Dragonborn?

Would you rather play as this:

or this:

 

[Kitchen Utensil]

It's Dungeons & Dragons, if I can't play as a dragon then what's the point?

You can't play as a dungeon.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

It's Dungeons & Dragons, if I can't play as a dragon then what's the point?

You can't play as a dungeon.

Tell that to Modrons.

 

[Dodo1610]

Some EA news

 

[Ghulgothas]

Oh god, they're really going to push Game Master Mode with this one aren't they.

 

[Saerain]

I would hope so, but they've been completely "that's a big commitment and there are no current plans for it".

 

[J1M]

Nah, this will be like twitch chat votes to influence the die roll or similar garbage.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Why do I get the feeling that the Early Access part of the story will finish with a reveal that will make the players go "Oh fuck, this IS a sequel to Baldur's Gate II"? Would be the perfect marketing ploy to draw in a bigger pool of purchasers.

 

[Gargaune]

Ok, let's throw down one more time.

Why do I get the feeling that the Early Access part of the story will finish with a reveal that will make the players go "Oh fuck, this IS a sequel to Baldur's Gate II"?

It's not, and no plot hook or miniature giant space hamster is going to change that. Videogames are described by their gameplay first and narrative second. If Obsidian came along to continue TNO's story with a game where you play Carmageddon in the Blood War, that wouldn't make it a sequel to Planescape: Torment. You can argue this game's D&D credentials all you want, but they didn't call it "Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition", they called it "Baldur's Gate 3", yet it's not even in the same subgenre. Like it or not, PFKM is more faithful to what the old BG games were merely by virtue of it being isometric RTwP.

BG3 will be to the Baldur's Gate series what Fallout 3 was to your precious Fallouts. Bethesda came along, liked the potential in the Fallout IP but reasoned that they had experience and success in the more popular Action-RPG segment, so they refactored the property into Oblivion-with-Guns while also giving the Codex a case of perennial hemorrhoids as an added bonus. While the gap between an ARPG and a TB CRPG is indeed significantly smaller than between a TB CRPG and a RTwP CRPG, the core issue is the same in that BG3 will play very differently from how BG played.

A big difference to Bethesda's Fallout run is, as mentioned before, that WotC did have space to pull a fast one by launching a new franchise and using "Baldur's Gate" as a subtitle, with the benefit of future versatility as well. That they instead went all out to just call it Baldur's Gate 3, especially since the Bhaalspawn saga was adequately concluded and BG2 comes with plenty of continuity baggage, comes across as a curious lack of confidence in their D&D brand given all their recent success with streaming and such.

None of this is to say that BG3 won't be a good RPG, just that it's not Baldur's Gate.