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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

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It could benefit from a bit of polishing in act3 but the main issue with the game is the many rewrites and patchwork plot that resulted from it. Not a lot can be done about this, that's way out of scope for an EE imo.
Yeah, that's the main issue.
The game definitely isn't lacking in the AMOUNT of content offered, cuts or not.
But bloodly hell if most of the subplots and questlines don't seem to end in a wet fart after hours and hours of build up.

Cazador would be an egregious example; he's built-up as some sort of machiavellian super-villain with power, politican influence and raw strength... and he turns out to be a pitiful manlet you can casually walk into AND bitchslap in one go.
 

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The thing that puzzled me most about this is how any of the characters can be level 1 at the start of the game.

Gale.. fucking the godess/essence of magic itself, yet is level 1. Surely that would take some high level dick to achieve?

Also why would Viconia send a level 1 Cleric on such an important mission?

Astarion has a long history of abducting people for his vampire patron... etc etc.


Is anyone who understands D&D better than me able to explain if this is normal or feasible in TT?
 

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It could benefit from a bit of polishing in act3 but the main issue with the game is the many rewrites and patchwork plot that resulted from it. Not a lot can be done about this, that's way out of scope for an EE imo.
Yeah, that's the main issue.
The game definitely isn't lacking in the AMOUNT of content offered, cuts or not.
But bloodly hell if most of the subplots and questlines don't seem to end in a wet fart after hours and hours of build up.

Cazador would be an egregious example; he's built-up as some sort of machiavellian super-villain with power, politican influence and raw strength... and he turns out to be a pitiful manlet you can casually walk into AND bitchslap in one go.
Part of the problem is that you're almost guaranteed to be max level when you face him. It's a major problem with Act 3 in general... too easy because they balanced around 12 as max level but gave you enough to get there before (or right at the start of) the final act.
 
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All character grown weaker after the tadpole insertion the case of gale is unique.

Gale was actually punished by the Bitch Mystra after he attempted to impress her by attempting to return to her a piece of the weave contaminating himself in the process.
 

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The thing that puzzled me most about this is how any of the characters can be level 1 at the start of the game.

Gale.. fucking the godess/essence of magic itself, yet is level 1. Surely that would take some high level dick to achieve?

Also why would Viconia send a level 1 Cleric on such an important mission?

Astarion has a long history of abducting people for his vampire patron... etc etc.


Is anyone who understands D&D better than me able to explain if this is normal or feasible in TT?
In tabletop we typically say that between these two epic adventurers heroes become so drunk and shitty they drugged themselves to L1.

Alternatively someone could siphon out from them theirs XP, then die... Thus... They are L1 pissed of ex-rulers of the country, epic wizards, zombies...
 
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The thing that puzzled me most about this is how any of the characters can be level 1 at the start of the game.

Gale.. fucking the godess/essence of magic itself, yet is level 1. Surely that would take some high level dick to achieve?

Also why would Viconia send a level 1 Cleric on such an important mission?

Astarion has a long history of abducting people for his vampire patron... etc etc.


Is anyone who understands D&D better than me able to explain if this is normal or feasible in TT?
The canonical excuse is typically that even al level 1 "heroes and adventurers" are ALREADY out-of-the-ordinary individuals with superlative potential far past the common folks.
It's clearly bullshit to let people indulge in their power trip fanfiction backstories, though, since the world these characters move in is blatantly populated of enemies and monsters capable to squash them like insignificant bugs.

On top of that, BG3 comes up with its own set of weak excuses to justify the "fall from grace" of its cast of companions.
 

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The thing that puzzled me most about this is how any of the characters can be level 1 at the start of the game.

I think the deus ex machina is the tadpole that reverted everybody to level 1 mice punchers.

Yeah, at least Wyll mentions that prior to the abduction his warlock powers were stronger.
Shit wouldn't make sense with a Wizard like Gale though unless he has convenient amnesia like the Gothic protag.
 

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At last, the party leaves the land of Early Access and reaches Baldur's Gate! But a new foe awaits, stronger than a cursed frog -- Gale, Astarion, Shadowheart and Karlach must face the Launch versions of themselves.
 

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So, what is the Codex verdict on this game?
It's not owlcat's from L1 to L30 in one game package. Owlcats games might have SERIOUS flaws, but at least they allowed to go to L20 if people wanted...
 

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high lvl d&d sucks
Then again, Larian's excuse "muh power creep at higher levels" is more than a bit at odds with the fact tha they removed several balancing factors in vanilla D&D (like attunement and the correct implementation of several mechanics) AND added an overpowered "tadpole talent tree" on top of it.
they tried to please marvel fans i guess, game should def have 'u dont get the parasite' mode, would def elevate it overall
 

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The thing that puzzled me most about this is how any of the characters can be level 1 at the start of the game.
I don't remember all of them, but Gale is like that due to the Netherese orb.

Karlach is due to the infernal engine being outside of Avernus.

Lae'zel isn't supposed to be anything special really, she hasn't even gone through basic Githyanki initiation rite of killing her first Mind Flayer.

Shadowheart has the whole amnesia thing via divine intervention.

No clue what in-game reasoning is used for Astarion and Wyll.
 

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