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whydoibother

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It's main strength is imo the unexpected things you can do with the game.
Barrelmancy so cool wow dude
Almost as cool as reducing fun to absurdities you can mock, so you can pose as a stoic, above-it-all veteran who couldn't possibly enjoy new things.
 

Efe

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it is less "freedom through game mechanics" and more like glitching the shit out of system
 

BruceVC

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I watched this video and I think the journalist summarizes why BG3 became the success it is and it includes the following

  • Larian has an established history of making successful CRPG
  • Early access feedback was a huge part of this game and how it was designed and changed
  • the bear scene only added to the global interest and created free marketing
  • CRPG are popular and we seeing a resurgence of interest
  • Larian had the revenue and some private sector funding to adhere to the vision
  • Larian as a company has the right leadership and management
I only really disagreed with one thing, why does he keep referring to Disco Elysium as a CRPG? Its more an adventure game surly ?
 

Zarniwoop

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it is less "freedom through game mechanics" and more like glitching the shit out of system

Surprisingly few glitches in this one actually.

There's no comparison between this and the recent New Shit like Starfield, Twitcher 3, Andromederp or Outer Worlds, those things are glitch/bugfests.
 
Vatnik Wumao
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He'll admit its a good game in 2035, when he makes a thread to rediscover "this old forgotten gem".
We can blame it on dementia at that point))
too much copium

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To be fair, the game is...
Ok. It just gets worse the further along you go due to it being rushed, act 3 in particular.
Personally I think that it would've worked best as a duology. A first game containing what are now chapters 1 & 2, with the big reveal of the final act being the conspiracy of the Dead Three and the final boss being Myrkul's champion; a second game centered on the city of Baldur's Gate, with the first act being centered on the lower city and Bhaal & second act on the upper city and Bane. A shorter final act can then be about resolving the whole Netherbrain fiasco, with more branching content depending on prior choices (e.g. a proper Gortash path if you side with him).
 

Swen

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Seriously the hate BG3 is getting from a small group of die hard schizos is hilarious

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Fedora Master

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whydoibother

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It's main strength is imo the unexpected things you can do with the game.
Barrelmancy so cool wow dude
Nigger stop your "too cool for school" act and just admit BG3 is a good game.
He'll admit its a good game in 2035, when he makes a thread to rediscover "this old forgotten gem".
When have I ever done that you retard?
In 2035, retard, can't you read?
 

Efe

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it is less "freedom through game mechanics" and more like glitching the shit out of system

Surprisingly few glitches in this one actually.

There's no comparison between this and the recent New Shit like Starfield, Twitcher 3, Andromederp or Outer Worlds, those things are glitch/bugfests.
It was in context of video above. Also other games being steaming piles of shit does not excuse shitty parts of another. whataboutism helps noone.

Again in video shared, he is canceling throwing skill by teleporting through map which causes his target to teleport somewhere else along with him. this is no "game mechanic".
 

Falksi

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Love or hate BG3, from a production value standpoint alone it's pretty amazing that it's currently on Steam for the same amount of coin as Nintendo are selling the Super Mario RPG Remake for.

That's the level of retardation which normies out there are playing at. BG3 might well be in that average-to-good-ish realm to us lot who know our games, but when it's current pound-for-pound competition for TB RPG gaming is Super Mario RPG, then it's easy to see why BG3 would blow people away.
 
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lametta

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i admit that bg 3 isnt the second coming of crpgs but its pretty solid with a few caveats. I'd say its a pretty good game. Technically it holds up better than 90% of AAA games that came out within the last 2 years. From shaders issues to micro stutter it had none of that.

But there is a group of people that claim that:
solasta, D:OS1-2, bg 3, poe 1-2, wasteland 3, tyranny, encased, atom rpg, pathfinder km/wotr etc etc. are shit. Maybe you just dont like crpgs in general and thats the real issue here if you dunked on all the games that came out in the past decade....
 

Swen

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it is less "freedom through game mechanics" and more like glitching the shit out of system

Surprisingly few glitches in this one actually.

There's no comparison between this and the recent New Shit like Starfield, Twitcher 3, Andromederp or Outer Worlds, those things are glitch/bugfests.
It was in context of video above. Also other games being steaming piles of shit does not excuse shitty parts of another. whataboutism helps noone.

Again in video shared, he is canceling throwing skill by teleporting through map which causes his target to teleport somewhere else along with him. this is no "game mechanic".
Also Larian is working harder than any other studio to fix everything, look how many patches they released.

The ending will be cleaned up too.
 

Mortmal

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I watched this video and I think the journalist summarizes why BG3 became the success it is and it includes the following

  • Larian has an established history of making successful CRPG
  • Early access feedback was a huge part of this game and how it was designed and changed
  • the bear scene only added to the global interest and created free marketing
  • CRPG are popular and we seeing a resurgence of interest
  • Larian had the revenue and some private sector funding to adhere to the vision
  • Larian as a company has the right leadership and management
I only really disagreed with one thing, why does he keep referring to Disco Elysium as a CRPG? Its more an adventure game surly ?

You can't blame the poor journalist for classifying Disco Elysium as an RPG when it was voted RPG of the year in some 'prestigious' place too. Since the RPG practices of the young generation involve imagining stories, LARPing, and posting character art on Reddit, ignoring combat and 80% of the rpg rules, you can't say he's wrong anymore.
 

Hagashager

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I can feel it in my bones, I'm almost done. I'm about to start the Iron Throne rescue which I'm told is utterly miserable.

Man, Act III just tanks. There're some good battles but I feel my enthusiasm just dying completely. I got through Act 1 over the course of a weekend. I got through Act II in the course of a week. That was in mid-september. It's been a deeply aluggish stop-and-go grind to get through Act III.

I complained previously, a lot of quests are glass-fragile, do one thing out of order, ask the wrong question and the quest just breaks. Everything feels very disjointed too. Nothing connects to the broader narrative. There's bloody earthquakes for goodness sake and yet the Nethbrain feels as far away as Act 1.

Some of the quests are also just fucking awful. Screw any quest where you have to protect anyone. Larian can't do escort missions to save their lives. It sucked in D:OS 2 and sucks almost as bad in BG3.

I want to finish this, but here in the tail end I keep running out of energy the minute I boot up the game.
 

Ryzer

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Even if the game is good , it has some next levels of stupidity when it comes to writing, annoying romances, pointless quests.

Bioware damage to the RPGs with BG2's romances is unfathomable.
 

Swen

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I can feel it in my bones, I'm almost done. I'm about to start the Iron Throne rescue which I'm told is utterly miserable.

Man, Act III just tanks. There're some good battles but I feel my enthusiasm just dying completely. I got through Act 1 over the course of a weekend. I got through Act II in the course of a week. That was in mid-september. It's been a deeply aluggish stop-and-go grind to get through Act III.

I complained previously, a lot of quests are glass-fragile, do one thing out of order, ask the wrong question and the quest just breaks. Everything feels very disjointed too. Nothing connects to the broader narrative. There's bloody earthquakes for goodness sake and yet the Nethbrain feels as far away as Act 1.

Some of the quests are also just fucking awful. Screw any quest where you have to protect anyone. Larian can't do escort missions to save their lives. It sucked in D:OS 2 and sucks almost as bad in BG3.

I want to finish this, but here in the tail end I keep running out of energy the minute I boot up the game.
Game is just super long if you try to do everything, of course fatigue will set in then in ACT 3. If you just focused on the main quest you wouldn't feel burned out.
 

Ryzer

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I can feel it in my bones, I'm almost done. I'm about to start the Iron Throne rescue which I'm told is utterly miserable.

Man, Act III just tanks. There're some good battles but I feel my enthusiasm just dying completely. I got through Act 1 over the course of a weekend. I got through Act II in the course of a week. That was in mid-september. It's been a deeply aluggish stop-and-go grind to get through Act III.

I complained previously, a lot of quests are glass-fragile, do one thing out of order, ask the wrong question and the quest just breaks. Everything feels very disjointed too. Nothing connects to the broader narrative. There's bloody earthquakes for goodness sake and yet the Nethbrain feels as far away as Act 1.

Some of the quests are also just fucking awful. Screw any quest where you have to protect anyone. Larian can't do escort missions to save their lives. It sucked in D:OS 2 and sucks almost as bad in BG3.

I want to finish this, but here in the tail end I keep running out of energy the minute I boot up the game.
Game is just super long if you try to do everything, of course fatigue will set in then in ACT 3. If you just focused on the main quest you wouldn't feel burned out.
What if instead of making tons of useless side-quests they focused on the main quest like in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2?

Wouldn't it be mind-blowing that the main quest is well... the main focus of the developers?
 

Padzi

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I'm still on my first playthrough; I already have 90 clocked in, and I'm finally in Act 3. While Acts 1 and 2 had coherence and cohesion, Act 3 is a big bag of jumbled quests. For a week now, I've been rescuing Orin's victim. In actual real life time because I keep starting new quests all the time, the game constantly throws at me. I feel like I'm playing Skyrim. I have no idea what I'm doing anymore. The main quest is there, but there are also 10 mini quests around every corner, and I'm just stuck messing around.
 

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