Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Zed Duke of Banville]

a Ravenloft game with Larian humour and the ability to fuck everything?

It would be the most horrific CRPG ever, though.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Also finished it today. Fun game, but gets worse the further you get. The plot seemed interesting enough at the beginning of act 1 and 2, but everything fell flat in the third act. While Orin was rather well-done as a villain she got killed too early and without much fanfare. Gortash was absolutely pathetic and the final boss of the game is just a b-movie monster. I enjoyed it much more than Divinity titles but people who say it's a better than Shadows of Amn or worry that no RPG would ever topple such a masterpiece don't know what they're talking about.

 

[Tyranicon]

people who[...] worry that no RPG would ever topple such a masterpiece don't know what they're talking about.

I'm pretty sure these people never played a cRPG before or have exclusively been fed ME Andromeda and other similar titles.

 

[Cryomancer]

One thing is for us in 30+s to say that BG3 is "average", comparing with great legends like BG2:SoA. Now imagine a zoomer which only played late bioware games and other AAA trash like Ass Effect Andromeda, Diablo 3 and so on. For him, BG3 would be 10/10. Because lets be real. BG3 is not that great when compared with old school RPG's but is the best game when compared with modern games.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

One thing is for us in 30+s to say that BG3 is "average", comparing with great legends like BG2:SoA. Now imagine a zoomer which only played late bioware games and other AAA trash like Ass Effect Andromeda, Diablo 3 and so on. For him, BG3 would be 10/10. Because lets be real. BG3 is not that great when compared with old school RPG's but is the best game when compared with modern games.

BG3 benefits in comparison with AAA CRPGs of the last two decades, not necessarily with any kind of recent games. Over the past few years, there have been a number of high-quality Tactical RPGs and squad-based tactics games, with better combat than BG3 but made on a much smaller budget. The one silver lining of Baldur's Gate 3 would be if even a small percentage of those playing it, who don't have much if any prior experience with turn-based tactical combat, develop an interest in this aspect of BG3 and move on to quality games focused on tactical combat.

 

[Fedora Master]

The entire ending sequence sucked dicks gameplay-wise as well.

everything fell flat in the third act.

I warned you

Now imagine a zoomer which only played late bioware games and other AAA trash like Ass Effect Andromeda, Diablo 3 and so on.

Someone like that wouldn't/shouldn't post here.

 

[cretin]

Finally finished the game. Very pleased to have managed to keep a 3-player co-op campaign running for 3 months and seeing the game through to the credits, but by the end we were so disconnected from whatever batshit insane anime bullshit was happening on screen that it was more like bad movie night than anything else. The entire ending sequence sucked dicks gameplay-wise as well. We're happy to be done with it.

Christ this sounds exactly like my DOS2 experience

 

[Lyre Mors]

The end of a CRPG being stupid and shitty? Well I never!

 

[Blutwurstritter]

BG 3 is above average, when you do an honest comparison of all aspects together instead of cherry picking and singling out weak spots. The last act of BG 3 is clearly rushed with obvious traces of unfinished content, but I don't think it is even close to the top of the list of offenders when it comes to decline in quality. The PB games are prime examples, just think of the last acts in Gothic1/2,Elex which are all much worse than the early stages.

 

[Fedora Master]

The last act of BG 3 is clearly rushed with obvious traces of unfinished content, but I don't think it is even close to the top of the list of offenders when it comes to decline in quality.

But in writing.

 

[GloomFrost]

BG 3 is above average, when you do an honest comparison of all aspects together instead of cherry picking and singling out weak spots. The last act of BG 3 is clearly rushed with obvious traces of unfinished content, but I don't think it is even close to the top of the list of offenders when it comes to decline in quality. The PB games are prime examples, just think of the last acts in Gothic1/2,Elex which are all much worse than the early stages.

PB games haven't been in Early access for years and years nor did they have a budget even remotely close to BG 3. Also Sven made situation worse by talking a lot of BS about that cut content and a trailer DAYS before the release showing the upper city footage.

 

[Crichton]

BG 3 is above average, when you do an honest comparison of all aspects together instead of cherry picking and singling out weak spots. The last act of BG 3 is clearly rushed with obvious traces of unfinished content, but I don't think it is even close to the top of the list of offenders when it comes to decline in quality. The PB games are prime examples, just think of the last acts in Gothic1/2,Elex which are all much worse than the early stages.

PB games haven't been in Early access for years and years nor did they have a budget even remotely close to BG 3. Also Sven made situation worse by talking a lot of BS about that cut content and a trailer DAYS before the release showing the upper city footage.

Do you have a link for this trailer? I'm sure the upper city was originally part of the plan, simply because it's impossible to imagine planning to make the city without it. But if you think about the surgery it would take to transplant everything from Wyrm's Crossing and the Lower City that belongs in the Upper City... It would be horrendous.

We're not just talking about Gortash (insert meme about Gortash's post-coronation party at the Four Seasons); the artist's patron/wife should clearly have her mansion in the Upper City, the sorcerer's tower. Philgrave's mansion, it's a nightmare. I think there's basically zero chance of a proper Upper City coming back in the definitive edition.

I would guess that it got cut years ago, before it (or the rest of the city) was ever even properly modeled and textured when they realized they needed to stop faffing about and actually release something before they went bust / got beaten to market by Bethesda.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Now that the smart people have realized this is a mediocre game

Sorry kraut
But the Russian cRPG Man considers BG3 not only good, but superior to the originals
And since Russkies are smarter than G*rms, the matter is now permanently settled and your opinion invalid

 

[Swen]

Lol of course BG3 is better than the archaic trash that is BG 1 and BG 2.

Better and more user reviews on steam and of course a higher metascore.

Hell just by the simple fact the old trash games are RTWP, automatically makes BG3 superior.

Turn of your nostalgia goggles boomers.

 

[Padzi]

...why?

 

[Cheesedragon117]

I knew I shouldn't've clicked on this thread. Knowing the kinds of things that are in this game, the kinds of half-done adults that are into said things, I just shouldn't've.

Anyone got some holy water eyedrops?

 

[Cryomancer]

Someone like that wouldn't/shouldn't post here.

Yes. But IMO most of the newer generations are like this.

The last act of BG 3 is clearly rushed with obvious traces of unfinished content, but I don't think it is even close to the top of the list of offenders when it comes to decline in quality. The PB games are prime examples, just think of the last acts in Gothic1/2,Elex which are all much worse than the early stages.

Yes!!! Look to PF:KM end game, mainly in the optional chapter. Full of wild hunt spam everywhere and house at edge of time is just too bloated and boring. BG3 end game is not bad, is just not as great as chapter 2.

more user reviews on steam

The market size in 2~3 decades ago was a tiny fraction of the market size today. If we normalize for the market size, things are different. Not mentioning that BG3 had a much bigger marketing budget.

metascore

No one cares about game journos that are dumber than a pigeon

are RTWP,

There are lots of TB old D&D games. BG1/2 outsold TB games like Dark Sun : Shattered Lands and Wake of the Ravager and in early 00s, NWN1 outsold ToEE. Action games where always more popular than TB games. Only the recent Larian titles where extremely successful and TB.

Even Larian in old times made mostly action games, Divine Divinity for eg.

 

[lametta]

Did a vanilla playthrough and prolly gonna do a solo tactician run without using explosive barrels in the future.
The game has some nice systems maybe even the devs didnt really intetionally put in. (The damage sharing rings where you can equip your party member with it and just leave him in camp etc.
we have kethric at home build

Anyhow i love some of the details:

 

[whydoibother]

Anyhow i love some of the details:

This perfectly normal and functional member of society (not a psychopath) beat the Dark Souls series on a Dance Dance Revolution foot controller.

 

[lametta]

Anyhow i love some of the details:

This perfectly normal and functional member of society (not a psychopath) beat the Dark Souls series on a Dance Dance Revolution foot controller.

true

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ggw_WkglJlc
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uNKuJkJH0SI
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TpDUGyEgQ8c
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QnhrBHCcm0M

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

One thing is for us in 30+s to say that BG3 is "average", comparing with great legends like BG2:SoA. Now imagine a zoomer which only played late bioware games and other AAA trash like Ass Effect Andromeda, Diablo 3 and so on. For him, BG3 would be 10/10. Because lets be real. BG3 is not that great when compared with old school RPG's but is the best game when compared with modern games.

Zoomers don't play those games, they're either playing Minecraft, Valorant or Genshin Impact. It's been like that for a while now.

 

[whydoibother]

One thing is for us in 30+s to say that BG3 is "average", comparing with great legends like BG2:SoA.

Its just good, even when compared to the greats. Its one of the greats.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Nonetheless, given the commercial success of BG3, Larian can obviously afford to take a risk on their next game, and they can save considerable expenditure by re-using the BG3 engine. Parts of BG3's Act II were clearly inspired by Ravenloft, which has a gothic horror setting that might be considered a compromise between a conventional one and something wildly out there, as with Spelljammer or Planescape.

a Ravenloft game with Larian humour and the ability to fuck everything?

They certainly could convey the horror aspect of the setting. Imagine being trapped with Astarion for all eternity.

 

[lametta]

I think it's a good crpg. It's main strength is imo the unexpected things you can do with the game.
The unintended freedom you get through the game's mechanics which is part of a real dnd experience.
Of course things like these are more interesting if you dont do a casual playthrough but a challenge run.

e.g. this guy does a no long rest run goes into the gith crash and "picks them up" puts them down at the same place and puts a bomb in the middle to aoe farm them:

 

[Fedora Master]

It's main strength is imo the unexpected things you can do with the game.

Barrelmancy so cool wow dude