Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Lacrymas]

You are on a niche RPG forum, differences of opinion are to be expected. I find it hilarious that people think I'm trying to gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss this thread. You enjoy spending time with a mediocre game like BG3? That's obviously fine. There aren't enough things in the world that bring us joy, so squeeze out as much as possible whenever you can. However, since this is a discussion and not a circle jerk, I'm entitled to discuss.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

And I am saying this not as a person who worships bg3, but as someone who is tired of people pretending to have higher taste that implies harsh critique, while it mostly a symptom of gatekeeping and elitism

Don't worry, everyone here has 300 hours in Skyrim.

 

[MerchantKing]

But we're talking about whether or not most people will remember or care about it in a year or two, not whether or not a good amount finish.

Considering Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2 were already remembered quite well, I don't think there is much doubt that people will be talking about Baldur's Gate 3 for years to come. Evenmoreso considering how it looks compared to any other cRPG. I mean, if other developers are crying that Baldur's Gate 3 shouldn't be used as a standard, that says something. It is even funnier when you have AAA developers (EA, Activision-Blizzard) doing this.

It would be a bad standard to use to the degree that it emulates Bioware. Also cutscenes with janky animation and uncanny valley tranny porn is not a good thing to put in any game. Using this game as a standard only justifies the further use of this.

 

[Reyvik]

You are on a niche RPG forum, differences of opinion are to be expected. I find it hilarious that people think I'm trying to gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss this thread. You enjoy spending time with a mediocre game like BG3? That's obviously fine. There aren't enough things in the world that bring us joy, so squeeze out as much as possible whenever you can. However, since this is a discussion and not a circle jerk, I'm entitled to discuss.

Yeah, I know. Merry Christmas! <3

 

[jf8350143]

I like this game, I played the first two chapters 8 times (but only finished the game twice because the third chapter is a boring piece of garbage). But every time people praise the game it make me feel more despair.

I lost count of how many times I see people complaining why can't owlcat/obsidian and other developers 'git gud' and be more like Larian, make 3A games instead of CRPGs, complaining why cRPGs have to have so many words and no cut scenes. And those are the supposed cRPG players, not regular mainstream auidences.

Oh and people praising BG3's writing. like what the fuck do you even read or play previously? Are they that awful they make you think BG 3 has great writing?

 

[Silverfish]

while it mostly a symptom of gatekeeping and elitism

You're welcome.

 

[Harthwain]

lmao. I bet the average player doesn't remember the half-baked plot or the characters. I know I don't, but then I gave up on both of them.

Who is "the average player"? A casual? How do you compare yourself - a Codexer - to "the average player"? Make all the bets you want, but without hard data it is all worth less than paper.

Most people have no idea or don't remember about BG2, let alone other titles. I don't know what this is supposed to prove.

BG2 was 23 years ago. Of course they don't.

Divinity: Original Sin 1 put Larian on the map. Divinity: Original Sin 2 made Larian a big name studio. Trying to say that both games were suddenly forgotten (Divinity: Original Sin 2 was released 5 years ago, by the way) is pretty ludicrous when it's constantly being used as a reference point in various contexts. And it may have been 23 years ago, but people are still talking about older games in the series. Enough to make Minsc's reveal into significant news.

 

[Silverfish]

How do you compare yourself - a Codexer - to "the average player"?

I play on normal and love quest markers.

 

[Fedora Master]

Divinity: Original Sin 1 put Larian on the map. Divinity: Original Sin 2 made Larian a big name studio.

Undeservedly so

 

[Fedora Master]

Looking at the most prominent mods on the Nexus, it's all gay shit like hair and clothes. Which really tells you who the audience for this game is.

 

[Hagashager]

It's also easy to mod that. As far as I know, BG3 has no dedicated mod tools.

Also, you of all people, Fedora, should know that the edgy shit you want is not hosted on Nexus.

 

[Swen]

Looking at the most prominent mods on the Nexus, it's all gay shit like hair and clothes. Which really tells you who the audience for this game is.

>Nexus
>only gay shit

 

[Rhobar121]

Looking at the most prominent mods on the Nexus, it's all gay shit like hair and clothes. Which really tells you who the audience for this game is.

Like most mods for any game with decent graphics. What were you expecting? Decent mods have always been rare.

 

[Reyvik]

These fucking tavs looking like some egirl whores is such a travesty. Every popular clip from this game on yt has pc character modded to the point of being personification of tumblr/onlyfans/reddit. Fucking piercing everywhere, pink hair color and faces modded to resemble fucking pornstars

 

[Lacrymas]

А lot of people create the most special snowflake-y character they can imagine. Those half-Aasimar, half-Tiefling chromatic Dragonborn Kitsune with a panther's tail didn't spring up accidentally. I forbid them in my sessions.

 

[Hagashager]

А lot of people create the most special snowflake-y character they can imagine. Those half-Aasimar, half-Tiefling chromatic Dragonborn Kitsune with a panther's tail didn't spring up accidentally. I forbid them in my sessions.

I fucking hate that shit with a passion.

God-forbid you put your foot down though and say no. You'll be accused of fucking racism if you do that.

It's part of the reason I don't do much PnP anymore

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

Imo what this game did the best isn't in any way revolutionary. It's mostly about polishing things that universally are good in rpgs but might be not easily accessible for average gamer. I am talking about things like:

- character building - you have variety of classes that are distinguishable from eachother. Take for example any 'hardcore' crpgs like 2e infinity engine games or even pathfinder km or wotr. There are so many classes, some of them extremely similiar, that you can really get confused if you don't want to spend hours on reading descriptions and other fuckload of texts. Bg3 classes are very easy to distinguish but they still retain a level of complexity by having for each of them three different specialization and other flavors
- likable companions - I know that it is controversial and paradoxically I don't like a single character, but because they are very humane and have a modicum of complexity, they make gaymers invested in their stories. I am pretty sure that reddit crowd was more willing to finish this game simply to uncover what sh hides about her past or to fuck a bear
- interactive world - probably one of the most important factors. The amount of different approaches you can have during combat and all kind of silly things you can do outside of it is so entertaining, that people are willing to play this game simply for the sake of finding out anything new about this. It less on rpg spectrum and more on, well, being a videogame. This is really a simple ingredient for a good game - having lots and lots of reactivity.

So these imo are qualities that make this game good. It's a case of combination of good elements, nothing especially original

Fixed that for you. The average consumer of BG3 is not a reddit faggot. The game is too complicated and "tactical" for your average reddit fag. The biggest consumer base is regular white gamer bros. Hence all the backlash due to faggotry and why shadow pussy was by far the most romanced character.

They did a good job making shadow pussy a likeable enough waifu to please the gamer bro player base.

Character building is terrible in this game. It's way too simple. No build planning at all. Just stick with your solo class. Barely any feats especially with at least 1 ASI

 

[Fedora Master]

The average consumer of BG3 is not a reddit faggot.

 

[Yosharian]

You are on a niche RPG forum, differences of opinion are to be expected. I find it hilarious that people think I'm trying to gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss this thread. You enjoy spending time with a mediocre game like BG3? That's obviously fine. There aren't enough things in the world that bring us joy, so squeeze out as much as possible whenever you can. However, since this is a discussion and not a circle jerk, I'm entitled to discuss.

Ok but you seriously think BG3 is mediocre? I'm in agreement if we're saying it's a little overrated in some aspects, not the second coming of christ as some are painting it as. But mediocre? Come on.

 

[Lacrymas]

Ok but you seriously think BG3 is mediocre? I'm in agreement if we're saying it's a little overrated in some aspects, not the second coming of christ as some are painting it as. But mediocre? Come on.

Tell me why you think it isn't mediocre and what you are comparing it against.

 

[Harthwain]

Fixed that for you. The average consumer of BG3 is not a reddit faggot. The game is too complicated and "tactical" for your average reddit fag.

Baldur's Gate 3 has 405k reviews on Steam (96% Overwhelmingly Positive). Baldur's Gate 3 reddit has 1.4m accounts.

 

[Fedora Master]

Looking at the most prominent mods on the Nexus, it's all gay shit like hair and clothes. Which really tells you who the audience for this game is.

What were you expecting? Decent mods have always been rare.

Fixes. Rule changes. New classes, spells. Mechanical stuff, not visual.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Who is "the average player"? A casual? How do you compare yourself - a Codexer - to "the average player"? Make all the bets you want, but without hard data it is all worth less than paper.

You guys are the ones comparing WotR and BG2 to a game with voice acting and dialog cutscenes.

And again, this is about whether or not the game will be memorable to most people. I've already proven with hard numbers that it won't.

 

[Shaki]

А lot of people create the most special snowflake-y character they can imagine. Those half-Aasimar, half-Tiefling chromatic Dragonborn Kitsune with a panther's tail didn't spring up accidentally. I forbid them in my sessions.

I fucking hate that shit wirh a passion.

God-forbid you put your foot down though and say no. You'll be accused of fucking racism if you do that.

It's part of the reason I don't do much PnP anymore

This is what Larian wants, these people are the intended audience. Remember Swen getting butthurt that most of players were creating a boring human character instead of super special transgender dragonkin or some shit? Larian is the gayest company out there, they're consciously pushing that shit, they want their players to be trannies and fuck bears and mindflayers.

 

[Rhobar121]

Looking at the most prominent mods on the Nexus, it's all gay shit like hair and clothes. Which really tells you who the audience for this game is.

What were you expecting? Decent mods have always been rare.

Fixes. Rule changes. New classes, spells. Mechanical stuff, not visual.

There are also such mods, but they are a minority.
As I wrote earlier, every game works the same.
Most modders are mentally retarded and this has been true for decades.