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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

Barbarian

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is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop

I am a completionist and most side quests in acts 1 and 2 are quite alright. I completely missed the Gale, Wyll and Karlach quests for instance since I always either ignore them or kill them. And I still reached level cap. Next playthrough I think I will recruit Wyll since it is apparently the only way to fight a certain dragon(only boss I haven't faced).

Act 3 has several shitty quests I always ignore and recomend ignoring, specially if you already reached level cap. Off the top of my head there is the Umberlee quest, the painter/haunted mansion quest and the "find clown body parts for the tranny necromancer" quest, among others.
 

Barbarian

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  • Dotted more Dark Urge reactivity (dialogue options and Narrator lines) into dialogues across the game.
Like I said, it's unclear how substantial it will be (probably not very) but it's worth mentioning to someone planning to do an evil run in case they want to see absolutely everything.

Also, what is this about adding Alfira as a temporary companion?

Don't understand why they would do this in the last major patch. Either they are adding a conventional way to spare her as the surge(as opposed to the convoluted strategy autists figured out) or they are adding a hook so that modders can make her a permanent companion.
 

processdaemon

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Also, what is this about adding Alfira as a temporary companion?

Don't understand why they would do this in the last major patch. Either they are adding a conventional way to spare her as the surge(as opposed to the convoluted strategy autists figured out) or they are adding a hook so that modders can make her a permanent companion.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure what to make of that. I thought it might be because they want her death to have more of an impact but it makes sense that it could be to add an option to spare her too. I hope they don't go down that route though since it's one of the few evil things that the Urge actually forces you to do, and while I'm glad they didn't fix the exploit for people who desperately want to save her on subsequent playthroughs I think it's a pretty strong narrative moment for unspoiled, first time players as it is.
 

jf8350143

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I mean the way the game forces you to kill her(or that dragonborn lady) is pretty shitty.

Every other time dark urge get to make a saving throw except this one. And when you ask whether you can just revive her the NPC just goes "nah, not gonna do it". It's just lazy writing.
 

jf8350143

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is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop
generally it goes like this:

Act 1:everything is good

Act 2: something is good

Act 3: nothing is good.
 
Vatnik Wumao
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I mean the way the game forces you to kill her(or that dragonborn lady) is pretty shitty.

Every other time dark urge get to make a saving throw except this one.
I think that it's a good thing imho. Even if you're playing as someone resisting the urge, it's good to showcase how sometimes even willpower is not enough. Gives gravity to the whole situation and makes the decision to renounce Bhaal's essence later on that more meaningful since it's clearly not something that you could live with otherwise as a good character without eventually succumbing. Removing that narrative constraint would be cheap, just as it's cheap that they've scrapped during development the consequences for feeding on tadpoles.
 

jf8350143

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I mean the way the game forces you to kill her(or that dragonborn lady) is pretty shitty.

Every other time dark urge get to make a saving throw except this one.
I think that it's a good thing imho. Even if you're playing as someone resisting the urge, it's good to showcase how sometimes even willpower is not enough. Gives gravity to the whole situation and makes the decision to renounce Bhaal's essence later on that more meaningful since it's clearly not something that you could live with otherwise as a good character without eventually succumbing. Removing that narrative constraint would be cheap, just as it's cheap that they've scrapped during development the consequences for feeding on tadpoles.
I agree the idea is good, but the excutation is awful. Because it contridicts with other choices you make where you get a saving throw and it feel very heavy handed rather than the natural progression of the story, espeically when you can ask the NPC to revive her and his reaction is basically "I won't do it because you have to live with it". To make it worse, every one bascially forget about it after that little discussion next morning.

I mean you could even revive the NPC and make it even worse, having her body and mind being all messed up and suffering from a servere PTSD due to what the dark urge did to her. Now it's your choice to help her recover(or brutally murder her again).
 

Barbarian

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is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop


Act 3: nothing is good.
FAKE NEWS!


So many cool thing that happen in Act 3.

The bhaalist and guild quests are okay. Also some set fights(e.g: Ramazith's Tower and Iron Throne). Otherwise it is all pretty meh.

Seems like they left most of the woke for act 3 as well.
 

ShiningSoldier

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is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop


Act 3: nothing is good.
FAKE NEWS!


So many cool thing that happen in Act 3.
There's only one thing good in Act 3, and that's the song that plays during the fight against
Raphael
. And even this good part quickly becomes boring, because the song repeats again and again in this fight.
 

Swen

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is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop


Act 3: nothing is good.
FAKE NEWS!


So many cool thing that happen in Act 3.

The bhaalist and guild quests are okay. Also some set fights(e.g: Ramazith's Tower and Iron Throne). Otherwise it is all pretty meh.

Seems like they left most of the woke for act 3 as well.
The carnival is very good with a lot happening if you explored, house of hope, all the small side quests, exploring the city itself,...

Only real woke thing in Act 3 is the transvestite at the circus and some gay couples, comments from random city dwellers. The only thing that bothered me are indeed the fact there are multiple gay couples in the game, should've toned that down. Still, can get rid of them easily anyway lol.

I think Act 3 was better than Act 2 and that was good too.
 

Zarniwoop

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong
is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop


Act 3: nothing is good.
FAKE NEWS!


So many cool thing that happen in Act 3.

The bhaalist and guild quests are okay. Also some set fights(e.g: Ramazith's Tower and Iron Throne). Otherwise it is all pretty meh.

Seems like they left most of the woke for act 3 as well.
The carnival is very good with a lot happening if you explored, house of hope, all the small side quests, exploring the city itself,...

Only real woke thing in Act 3 is the transvestite at the circus and some gay couples, comments from random city dwellers. The only thing that bothered me are indeed the fact there are multiple gay couples in the game, should've toned that down. Still, can get rid of them easily anyway lol.

I think Act 3 was better than Act 2 and that was good too.

Act 3 is all about MUH REFUGEES WHO DINDU NUFFIN not being allowed into the city.
 

Fedora Master

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is every side quest so darn good (I only played Act I) that you feel like you're missing out or can you just not stop touching the poop


Act 3: nothing is good.
FAKE NEWS!


So many cool thing that happen in Act 3.

The bhaalist and guild quests are okay. Also some set fights(e.g: Ramazith's Tower and Iron Throne). Otherwise it is all pretty meh.

Seems like they left most of the woke for act 3 as well.
The carnival is very good with a lot happening if you explored, house of hope, all the small side quests, exploring the city itself,...

Only real woke thing in Act 3 is the transvestite at the circus and some gay couples, comments from random city dwellers. The only thing that bothered me are indeed the fact there are multiple gay couples in the game, should've toned that down. Still, can get rid of them easily anyway lol.

I think Act 3 was better than Act 2 and that was good too.

Act 3 is all about MUH REFUGEES WHO DINDU NUFFIN not being allowed into the city.
MOST DIVERSE CITY IN THE REALMS
(Which Im fairly sure is wrong because in Kara-Tur they have Spelljammer ports.)
 

MjKorz

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There's only one thing good in Act 3, and that's the song that plays during the fight against Raphael.
Low-quality ripoff. DDO did it first and much better, creating a whole raid with puzzles, combat encounters and geas-induced mandatory dancing around a song:
 

Barbarian

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Games shouldn't be balanced around completionists, at any rate.

Do most players leave the map unexplored and ignore quests received?

Don't think so. Even if you skip a lot you will probably get enough XP to reach level 15 throughout the game.

It is bad balance. Cant remember any game where you reach level cap so soon and without effort. Even cuckfinder games were well balanced in that regard(and you had an exploit to level up faster with a smaller party, something that bg3 does not have)
 

Barbarian

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Even cuckfinder games were well balanced in that regard
With all the DLC installed, you hit level 20 in WotR early in chapter 5, almost at the start. Mythic ranks are a different story, though.

Exactly, there was still progression. Legend mythic also allowed further leveling.

Bg3 several quests provide no actual reward once you reach level cap and gotten your desired gear.
 

KeAShizuku

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They hated the Imoen romance mod. If only they had known about the degeneracy of Baldurs Gate 3 awaiting them in the future...
 

Hydro

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Only real woke thing in Act 3
The whole act 3 is about helping rapefugies to infiltrate the city. Right, no agenda here folks.

The whole Bhall stuff is lame with the main villain being the girl with issues. They even had to resurrect Sarevok unable to handle the character in any meaningful way.

They even had to resurrect witch Aunty, cause apparently soy sippers were too exhausted working with convoluted main plot.

Also anybody who thinks the song playing during the fight with Raphael is good deserves full lobotomy.
 

Barbarian

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I never got to actually hear the song when I fought him.

Maybe because both times I rigged the soul pillars with smokepowder before the fight and blew them up first round.
 

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