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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

Zed Duke of Banville

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Every time I check into this thread someone is writing about some sort of romance. Does this dogshit game have anything other than porn in it? How's the combat? Character creation? Writing/story? World building? If someone has already summed up their thoughts in a nice way would appreciate a link or least a username so I can find it myself.
  • Combat is similar to Solasta in being a turn-based, tactical system with "5th edition D&D" rules. The terrible user interface and lack of a grid contribute to making it noticeably worse than Solasta's combat, though, which is a real pity. As with Solasta, there is a limit in party size to four members, attributable to this version of "D&D".
  • Exploration is much better than Solasta, even though it's partly an illusion where some areas that are linear or have just one or two battles seem more complex than they really are. The existence of an overworld, which Solasta lacked entirely, is a major factor in this, but even the dungeon areas can be much larger and more complex than Solasta's. You can find meaningful items and even new areas by diligently poking around. As with Solasta, there isn't any real logistics other than encumbrance limitations and the need for a "long rest" to replenish spells and certain abilities (some abilities are replenished by a "short rest", with a limit of two of these between "long rests"). The overall structure of "Act I" is quite non-linear.
  • The character progression/customization aspects are more or less the same as Solasta's, using "5th edition D&D" rules, except the game doesn't present the player with information about class progression in later levels, and there might be a few simplifications.
  • The game only allows the player a single customized PC, then forces on the player six super-special pre-generated party-members, each of which has a convoluted back-story and frequently (but not exclusively) cringe-writing. However, you only need three of them to fill your party, so you can dispatch the ones you find objectionable.
  • Writing is passable, at best.
  • There is a great deal of "Choice & Consequences" through dialogue options, or decisions made outside dialogue. This includes extensive use of skill checks and ability score checks.
  • There is decent interactivity with the world; e.g. water can be employed to quench fires or clean your blood-soaked characters, pools of flammable liquids can be set on fire, et cetera.
 

Elthosian

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He's much more bitter about his fate now, and it's well-acted. It's really just a subtle shift in the actor's tone really, but it's very well done, and the animations seem to have shifted subtly too, along with the change in tone (though I can't be certain about that, might just be an illusion from the acting).
It's motion-captured, I think, so the actors have a lot of room to do subtle stuff like that. Whoever played Frog Lady deserves singling out for praise, she's a really excellent physical actor, all the jutting about and hissing and such.

I annoyed her and she rolled her eyes in one conversation and it was pretty nice. The animations felt way more rudimentary in the early access. I thought they were exaggerating about the 174 hours of cinematics by counting all of the conversations but a lot of these are quite elaborate, not just NPCs standing in front of each other.
 

Louis_Cypher

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This thread is surreal. The game is an unplayable mess. You have to constantly fight with the camera, the UI is an abomination (inventory sorting is too much to ask for, crafting is not implemented), combat is crap and the story has no rhythm. I already tried to refund this piece of shit but I've played more than 2 hours at that point. This is the last game I will buy from Larian.

Yeah, but... 700.000 PLAYERS ONLINE how cool is that?

It is even more than HARRY POTTER


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Youtube is flooding me with videos talking about this shit and the amount of hype in the comments really shows the cons00mer meme is real. Those retards really act like every new hot release is the second coming of Christ. I don't remember this kind of shit back in the day. When BG2 dropped people were exicted sure but there wasn't this level of total, blind praise as if every aspect of the game was pure golden perfection.
Second coming of Christ is not too far from the truth. Deferred religious impulse innit. I think consoomers subconsciously want something meaningful, and the only thing they can think of that might contain this hypothetical insight they crave, is some product packed with content.
 

Reina

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Ugh, I took the bait and bought the game, only to discover that it is indeed Larian game with DnD influences. There's something about technical side of their games that repulses me. Partially I think it's that many quality of life solutions are sacrificed at the altar of co-op, partially it's the abandonement of the conventions RPG players have been conditioned for decades at this point, like looting/clutter.

Also, this is my first meeting with DND5, and I don't like it. At all. I'm not much into the so-called buildfaggotry, but I feel I don't make any meaningful decisions during character creation, or the level ups.

At least the writing so far is decent and about exactly what I expected from modern fantasy series. I could use some more interesting, and, ironically, diverse companions though. The current cast is a bit too limited to me, especially compared to original Baldurs.
 

Barbarian

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Barbarian whydoibother

Exactly where did you get the idea that you would have to make multiple hard Wisdom saves in a row to resist killing a lot of people/hulking out? I'm well into Act 2 and I've seen nothing even remotely close to that.

You will need to pass some hard wisdom saves in order to resist the urge to kill your lover, if you have one. Probably more similar saves later
 

Hobo Elf

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I am happily amused by how absurdly powerful the Druid is once it has been implemented properly (Solasta's Druid wasn't too bad, either). At level 7 you can summon a Dryad who can summon a Treant, both do really high damage and add some nice utility (Dryad has an aura that prevents restraint and paralysis). This along with my Druid of the Moon ability to fight as an Owlbear which has 3 attacks per turn (that bypass resistances) at level 6 make it quite the powerhouse.
 

Grunker

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Barbarian whydoibother

Exactly where did you get the idea that you would have to make multiple hard Wisdom saves in a row to resist killing a lot of people/hulking out? I'm well into Act 2 and I've seen nothing even remotely close to that.

You will need to pass some hard wisdom saves in order to resist the urge to kill your lover, if you have one. Probably more similar saves later

You said there was a scene at act 1 end where durge went bananas. There’s not. So where did you get the wis save thing from?
 

Barbarian

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Barbarian whydoibother

Exactly where did you get the idea that you would have to make multiple hard Wisdom saves in a row to resist killing a lot of people/hulking out? I'm well into Act 2 and I've seen nothing even remotely close to that.

You will need to pass some hard wisdom saves in order to resist the urge to kill your lover, if you have one. Probably more similar saves later

You said there was a scene at act 1 end where durge went bananas. There’s not. So where do you get the wis save thing from?
I did? I suppose I refered to the Alfira thing. Which does happen act 1.

Spoilers from an unfinished guide. ITT I looked it up in order to meta it. It will happen.

2 18 wisdom rolls depending on how violent you have been. Possibly harder or easier.
 

Turisas

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Barbarian whydoibother

Exactly where did you get the idea that you would have to make multiple hard Wisdom saves in a row to resist killing a lot of people/hulking out? I'm well into Act 2 and I've seen nothing even remotely close to that.

You will need to pass some hard wisdom saves in order to resist the urge to kill your lover, if you have one. Probably more similar saves later
Do you at least get a tadpole out of it.
 

Swen

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I already tried to refund this piece of shit but I've played more than 2 hours at that point. This is the last game I will buy from Larian.
Just had to see that bear sex scene, didn't you? :M

I would give it more of a chance, if I were you. There's some enjoyment to be had here for anyone, given the depth of the choices and consequences. You do you though.

That said, I don't blame you for never buying any Larian game after they bowed to ESG this much.
What is this ESG bullshit talk, this has almost ZERO impact on Larian since they're not a publicly traded company.
 

Fedora Master

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I already tried to refund this piece of shit but I've played more than 2 hours at that point. This is the last game I will buy from Larian.
Just had to see that bear sex scene, didn't you? :M

I would give it more of a chance, if I were you. There's some enjoyment to be had here for anyone, given the depth of the choices and consequences. You do you though.

That said, I don't blame you for never buying any Larian game after they bowed to ESG this much.
What is this ESG bullshit talk, this has almost ZERO impact on Larian since they're not a publicly traded company.
So you're saying the gay woke shit wasn't done out of necessity. Got it.
 

Nikanuur

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There's this weird option to use a sneak attack as a type of attack, actively, by clicking on it. If you play a ranged character, pressing this button doesn't allow for other modals, magical arrows, spells, etc. to stack with it.
Initially, I was confused and disappointed as heck; my whole idea of an Ambush Ranger had withered.
Thankfully, it's all really just a confusion. Whilst just shooting from the Dredge Ambusher's modal, the sneak damage has been added automatically, as seen from the log.
Man, why is there such a button at all :D ?
Anyway, I hope I have cleared this out for others who might be interested in similar builds.
 

AwesomeButton

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So, I'd appreciate the thoughts / comments / advice of the respected members of the Codex...
Jump in with whatever you want. So far it seems that this game provides unprecedented reactivity and quest branching, so you'll hardly put yourself in a bad position.

Most importantly, play it as much like PnP as possible. Don't savescum, don't rest-spam, let checks fail, look for alternative routes when they do. Try to forget it's a videogame.
 

Swen

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According to that video you have to initiate the kiss (Gale is shocked and says "I...I didn't think-") and you get a "I don't like where this is going" option first. (edit: actually two)

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Bro, the guy literally says that he wants you to meet him alone, so that he can show you some magic. It’s the most obvious mingle invitation a man could make.
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This.
Serious anyone saying "Y..you cant avoid the gay romances brooo!!" is a lying retard or a closet homosexual.
 

Joggerino

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This thread is surreal. The game is an unplayable mess. You have to constantly fight with the camera, the UI is an abomination (inventory sorting is too much to ask for, crafting is not implemented), combat is crap and the story has no rhythm. I already tried to refund this piece of shit but I've played more than 2 hours at that point. This is the last game I will buy from Larian.

Yeah, but... 700.000 PLAYERS ONLINE how cool is that?

It is even more than HARRY POTTER


c69.jpg

Youtube is flooding me with videos talking about this shit and the amount of hype in the comments really shows the cons00mer meme is real. Those retards really act like every new hot release is the second coming of Christ. I don't remember this kind of shit back in the day. When BG2 dropped people were exicted sure but there wasn't this level of total, blind praise as if every aspect of the game was pure golden perfection.
Yeah, my inner contrarian is triggered so hard. At least we can say with certainty that BG3 is 100% mainstream.
 

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He's much more bitter about his fate now, and it's well-acted. It's just a subtle shift in the actor's tone really, but it's very well done, and the animations seem to have shifted subtly too, along with the change in tone (though I can't be certain about that, might just be an illusion from the acting
The problem I have with Astarion is that I'm having a hard time rationalizing why my character would want to have anything to do with him after our first meeting. By attacking the protagonist, and later by attempting to suck blood off him, Astarion just leaves no sensible protagonist a choice but to kick him out.

There is a type of protagonist character who would still keep Astarion around after such behavior, but that protagonist is incompatible with anything I'd want to play, and I don't want to break my own character's consistency over a gamey objective of exploring a companion NPC's content.
 

Reinhardt

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rolled natural 20 persuading ogres to fight for me for food.
 

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