I called in a team of researchers, and after months of painstaking investigation, they discovered that there is already a thread about Gotham Knights.
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Batman: Arkham Knight
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Inb4 the management merges all threads about DC/Marvel games into one giant “superhero games” mega-thread.
Correct_Carlo
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I just finished this. I bought it years ago, never played it, then suddenly had the urge to play it in the middle of playing God of War, and I was really impressed by how good it is. I've beaten all of the Arkham games, although I typically rush through them and just do the main stories (beating Arkham City was actually really hard because my batman was so underleveled that some of the final fights were impossible. I think I beat that game on the hardest difficulty in like 11 hours).
I spent 50 hours on this on Hard and wish I had more time to do all the Riddler trophies, but fuck that. I needed to finish it this weekend before Elden Ring, so I just did the main storyline, the sidequests, and watched the 100% ending on youtube rather than spending 10 hours doing all of the fucking riddler trophies (the riddler trophies are usually well designed but a common theme to this series is that there's just too many of them. Each game should have 25-30 tops).
My impressions: By far the best game in the series, and the storyline is miles above the others as well. I was surprised by how taken I was with the plot, as while all the Arkham games (save for maybe Origins) have great writing, this one was a cut above the rest.
I fucking love the Batmobile too and don't understand why everyone hated it on release. Blasting around the city, destroying pillars and walls and the corners of buildings feels like nothing else, and I'm not sure that I could go back to the previous Arkham games with no batmobile. I even liked the combat segments, which sometimes got annoying, but were a welcome break from the beat em up segments.
As to the melee combat, it's top notch as far as 3rd person combat goes, but I've never personally liked it. I hate the extended rhythm style gameplay of it, so it's never been my favorite part of the series, but to its credit it's definitely better than almost every other 3rd person action game on the market that tries to mimic it (Witcher, AC, Shadow of Mordor, etc).
I spent 50 hours on this on Hard and wish I had more time to do all the Riddler trophies, but fuck that. I needed to finish it this weekend before Elden Ring, so I just did the main storyline, the sidequests, and watched the 100% ending on youtube rather than spending 10 hours doing all of the fucking riddler trophies (the riddler trophies are usually well designed but a common theme to this series is that there's just too many of them. Each game should have 25-30 tops).
My impressions: By far the best game in the series, and the storyline is miles above the others as well. I was surprised by how taken I was with the plot, as while all the Arkham games (save for maybe Origins) have great writing, this one was a cut above the rest.
I fucking love the Batmobile too and don't understand why everyone hated it on release. Blasting around the city, destroying pillars and walls and the corners of buildings feels like nothing else, and I'm not sure that I could go back to the previous Arkham games with no batmobile. I even liked the combat segments, which sometimes got annoying, but were a welcome break from the beat em up segments.
As to the melee combat, it's top notch as far as 3rd person combat goes, but I've never personally liked it. I hate the extended rhythm style gameplay of it, so it's never been my favorite part of the series, but to its credit it's definitely better than almost every other 3rd person action game on the market that tries to mimic it (Witcher, AC, Shadow of Mordor, etc).
Wow. I disagree with pretty much everything you said here. I’m genuinely not trying to hop on board the “Wrong Carlo” meme-train, but I just can’t fathom how you think AK is, for one example, the best-written game in the series. It’s so chock-full of plot-holes and extended bits of character assassination that I don’t know if someone could pump out a worse script if they tried.
Praising the Batmobile segments makes me half suspect that you’re trolling, but if so you’re doing a very good job.
Correct_Carlo
Arcane
LOL, if I've learned anything from reading the internet, it's that people online have no idea what a plot hole is, but even more than that, they will hyper obsess over some tiny inconsistency, ignoring other elements that are more important. Did the game have plot holes? Probably. I didn't think about the plot that hard, nor do I particularly care to as it's a Batman video game, it's not fucking Shakespeare (who also had plot holes in abundance, mind you). It worked emotionally and had some bravo and memorable cinematic sequences that were incredibly effective. That's all I cared about.
When it comes to whom? Batman? Batman's always been a dull as dishwater character. Batman was the least interesting part of this game, although the Joker dynamic and the Batman vs Wayne dynamic in this probably made him interesting for the first time in any of these Arkham games. At any rate, I've never been a huge comic book fan, so I don't especially care about what they do to Batman's character. By the end of this it's hinted strongly that Bruce Wayne is dead and in his place is just Batman 24/7, who now fights crime using Scarecrow's fear toxin to up the ante because the simple theatrics of the previous batman were no longer enough. Is that destroying the character? Maybe, but it was unexpected and tracks with the development of the character throughout the game, so I don't care.
Not trolling. Tell me any vehicle in a non-driving game that's as fun to control as the rocket powered tank busting through walls in this game. Like everyone else, I hated it at first, but I grew to love it by the end of the game, to the point that I'd actually drive everywhere, rather than flying.
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Mad max
are you 12?
Correct_Carlo
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Don't you kind of need to be in order to enjoy a Batman game? I mean, what's your point? That it'd be more "mature" and "adult" if the giant tank-like batmobile drove slightly slower? This is a game where you play as a batman who bounces around punching people in the face. Once you accept that you are an adult who enjoys that kind of thing, criticizing any individual element as immature is kind of silly.
yeah i guess i dont think about this stuff because i dont play superhero games for children
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Just Cause vehicle mechanics are actually kinda shit, I remember it being the worst compared to its open-world contemporaries. The whole package is fun, and the fault of the driving mechanics can be ignored since the grappling hook mechanics work perfectly with vehicular combat, but in itself, driving is a miserable chore.
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Been a while but I recall the bikes turned too damn well.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: in Just Cause 2 you don't drive your vehicles as much as you aim them, press the accelerate button and pray to Odin that your crash site is closer to your objective than your starting point.
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checks out.
oddech_wymarlych_swiatow
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Since I lost my save files during OS reinstallation last year, I had to start BAK from very begging, done almost every Most Wanted and only one - The Riddler. First challenge (no counting initial beat-em up part) is annoying puzzle time race WTF. I thought such shit ended with retarded excavator level, is there moar such kind of bullshit in Riddlers sub-quest?
Ezekiel
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Tried Arkham Knight again. I like the encounters even less than City's retarded systems. Too many huge enemies, electrical enemies and their medics get tiresome and the environmental takedowns don't work half the time. Main problem with the combat in Arkham Knight is that it is iteration on something that didn't have much depth to begin with.
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Have thought about making a long video combining all my complaints, but I don't like the sound of my own voice. Did it only once before. Anyway, at first I was just making the point that even someone who understands the mechanics finds them shallow. Didn't need more explanation. But they can ask.
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Bought this in a sale years ago. Waited till it was playable. Started playing 'cause I heard about Kevin Conroy. Think I have a case for the game causing mental abuse. Specifically the Riddler batmobile race courses.
I go right the way back to Wipeout on the playstation in 1995. I remember that game because it had the Babylon Zoon soundtrack "Spaceman". I was good at that game, and I still managed to get through all the Riddler challenges with 3 stars. But by fuck was it annoying. They obviously outsoured this part of the game to Mexicans, and they just badly copied an anti-grav racing game like Wipeout.
On keyboard and mouse, it's actually abuse. Camera is fucked, controls, physics, and deliberate spitefullness by developers. On the final course there's a lamp-post that got me every time. Indestructable lamp post that you hit if you were going too fast. Then this team of retards decided to make it instant death for not playing the races like the devlopers wanted.
Who decided this? What retard thought this was a good idea? With all the data they're collecting I bet there isn't a single player on the planet that managed these courses without dying. So the whole philosopthy of "Be the Batman" makes Batman and the player look like a fucking clown.
All they had to do was say the Riddler hack the VR/AR of Batman, and challenged him to these courses there. Then each time Batman "died" it would have been a humiliation that he lived through. That's what the Riddler wants, to prove he can kill the batman at any time with stupid fucking riddles. Then say he'd kill Catwoman if Batman didn't play the AR challenges.
THen they restrict the ending to the game unless you get hundreds of trophies. I think you even need them for the Joker ending/battle. Fuck this. WB deserves to go down in flames.
I go right the way back to Wipeout on the playstation in 1995. I remember that game because it had the Babylon Zoon soundtrack "Spaceman". I was good at that game, and I still managed to get through all the Riddler challenges with 3 stars. But by fuck was it annoying. They obviously outsoured this part of the game to Mexicans, and they just badly copied an anti-grav racing game like Wipeout.
On keyboard and mouse, it's actually abuse. Camera is fucked, controls, physics, and deliberate spitefullness by developers. On the final course there's a lamp-post that got me every time. Indestructable lamp post that you hit if you were going too fast. Then this team of retards decided to make it instant death for not playing the races like the devlopers wanted.
Who decided this? What retard thought this was a good idea? With all the data they're collecting I bet there isn't a single player on the planet that managed these courses without dying. So the whole philosopthy of "Be the Batman" makes Batman and the player look like a fucking clown.
All they had to do was say the Riddler hack the VR/AR of Batman, and challenged him to these courses there. Then each time Batman "died" it would have been a humiliation that he lived through. That's what the Riddler wants, to prove he can kill the batman at any time with stupid fucking riddles. Then say he'd kill Catwoman if Batman didn't play the AR challenges.
THen they restrict the ending to the game unless you get hundreds of trophies. I think you even need them for the Joker ending/battle. Fuck this. WB deserves to go down in flames.
Riddler is easily the worst aspect of all these games. The obnoxious trophy collection bullshit is truly taken out of the Ubisoft playbook, and is probably only there to add 5-10 extra hours to the total playtime. Nothing of value would've been lost by removing it. In fact, it probably stood in the way of designing a Riddler sidequest that was actually interesting.
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