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Is there any effective way to deal with stacks of 5+ wurms?
Besides hiding behind allied army/mercenary units.

Depending on the terrain, it's possible.

I remember doing it with a "small" party of 12/14 once against 5/6 lindwurms in a forest map.
Well, my main character was a Berserker (nimble + nudist = Nimble²) and tanked 2 of them while the rest of the brutes were killing lindwurms one by one and the archers were playing hide and seek with the rest.

The Berserker almost died, finally killed one when the troop came to his rescue and i had to rotate extract him.
Good thing he survived since he was the main character.
Miracles do happen, but those things still can 2 shot superheroes.
And I think recent patch gave tail attack more range.
 

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Miracles do happen, but those things still can 2 shot superheroes.
And I think recent patch gave tail attack more range.

Yeah, it was a long time ago, I think the AI was improved since then or maybe only Legends AI, I don't know but it has improved.
It used to be easy to split unhold groups and make half of them run after a naked recruit or an archer but not anymore.
 

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Acid blood for that colonial marine feel. I hate lindwürms.
Is there any effective way to deal with stacks of 5+ wurms?
Besides hiding behind allied army/mercenary units.

What happens if you get them stuck on 2-3 dedicated tanks then kill with reach weapons and ranged?
Less reliable now when tails too seem to have attack with 2 hex range.
True but it's still doable.
 

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It's still doable with only 5.

It gets harder in a non-linear way as the numbers go up, you have trouble locking down all of them with tanks and you have trouble relieving tanks that get into trouble. If they focus on a non tank he can die really quick.

4-5 isn't too bad with good gear and playing peasant militia, but once they scaled beyond that I started avoiding them as it seemed like the risk outweighed the reward.

I'd be curious to see someone who plays into the late game fight 8 of them.
 

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I agree with you, even with the numbers (4 is the most wurms that i want to see at the same time) but that's on ironman. However if you remove risk from the equation, you can probably do more. Maybe even 8 you mentioned. Without losing half of you bros. But i'm just theorising here. I don't intend to find out - unless at the end of a campaign maybe.
 

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bros...

legend is so much fun.......
At this moment i prefer playing vanilla with the new dlc. And when legends will be updated to include it - i'll play some more.
I didn't play enough to make my mind about legends. However i certainly welcome the changes in perk trees, make things fresh and more varied when it comes to builds. Only when you get a bro with stars + high initiative/health + low fatigue and the only defensive option is battleforged it becomes annoying. If only some perks didn't look so underwhelming.
 

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My impressions:

I'm nearing day 80 with the anatomist origin. Events and flavor are great. Had terrible luck with recruits so far and the few decent ones I had died... so believe it or not I'm just with the 3 starting bros, all 3 grinded to veteran levels by now. I did save scum to keep them in particular alive. Thankfully crisis hasn't triggered yet, it probably will once I hire some bros again.

Mutagens are indeed quite OP

Hexe mutagen for instance gives back all damage to the attacker. Necrosavant mutagen regenerates hp when you proc bleed on enemies(essentially making you a vampire?). Unhold gives you hp regeneration of 10 per round. Several of the mutagens lower fatigue cost for skills or increase damage output - alone they might not seem like much but in the right build they synergize immensely. Ditto for the ones that confer resistances.

Each of my anatomists has 3 to 4 mutagens as of now. Once you reach that point disease time starts becoming really crippling(10 days or even more with 25% penalty on every single stat), so I'm saving many potions for potentially good recruits.
 

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My impressions:

I'm nearing day 80 with the anatomist origin. Events and flavor are great. Had terrible luck with recruits so far and the few decent ones I had died... so believe it or not I'm just with the 3 starting bros, all 3 grinded to veteran levels by now. I did save scum to keep them in particular alive. Thankfully crisis hasn't triggered yet, it probably will once I hire some bros again.

Mutagens are indeed quite OP

Hexe mutagen for instance gives back all damage to the attacker. Necrosavant mutagen regenerates hp when you proc bleed on enemies(essentially making you a vampire?). Unhold gives you hp regeneration of 10 per round. Several of the mutagens lower fatigue cost for skills or increase damage output - alone they might not seem like much but in the right build they synergize immensely. Ditto for the ones that confer resistances.

Each of my anatomists has 3 to 4 mutagens as of now. Once you reach that point disease time starts becoming really crippling(10 days or even more with 25% penalty on every single stat), so I'm saving many potions for potentially good recruits.
10 days mid/late game doesn't seem that crippling to me when you have 16+ bros with reserves but if you have 3 bros then it sure is. Good luck with the crisis.
 

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Magic Origins submod is already up to date to work with the free DLC.

But it requires the next Legends update...
I don't think it's going to take very long for them to update if the team has some time to spare right now, doesn't seem to have a lot of mod breaking mechanism.
 

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redpill me on the magic origins submod

Hexe Origin
You'll start with an elder hexe and charm your way through the game, you have a temporary charm but also a permanent one, with a lesser accuracy depending on your mind attribute, you target's and multiple other factors like morale, wounds, surrounded, etc.
Boss enemies from legends are extremely hard to charm.
Other than this, it's a pokemon for grown ups.

Magic Trio
3 magic skills per mage type (there is 5) from elemental damage to debuff with some aoe and summon skills, it really changes the gameplay the most and is extremely fun, can also recruit some hexe (less powerful than the origin one) through firstborn events.

He's now working on a undead origin which is fairly advanced and fully playable but i didn't.

All these origins add multiple features, runes, now named staffs with an attached skill, events, droppable pets like bears or cats, encounters, easter egg origins through special seeds*.

*Like a Kraken origin
*Or starting the Hexe origin with Jirok as a pet.

I didn't play any of these.
 

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Update 1.5.0.10
Some balance fine-tuning and fixes for things reported over the weekend.

  • Changed sickness times for imbibing anatomist potions to be slightly lower, as to make taking anatomist potions in the early parts of a campaign, when the Anatomist origin is at its weakest, less punishing.
  • Changed Orc Berserker anatomist potion to no longer trigger off of indirect damage, like from the Bleeding status effect.
  • Changed damage of Berserk Chain to 50-100, up from 40-100.
  • Fixed an issue where the Webknecht anatomist potion wasn't preventing an effect it should have.
  • Fixed the Oath of Distinction incorrectly granting experience for kills performed by wardogs.
  • Fixed several minor issues and typos with new events.
 

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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/365360/view/5243884519637596010
Update 1.5.0.10
Some balance fine-tuning and fixes for things reported over the weekend.

  • Changed sickness times for imbibing anatomist potions to be slightly lower, as to make taking anatomist potions in the early parts of a campaign, when the Anatomist origin is at its weakest, less punishing.
  • Changed Orc Berserker anatomist potion to no longer trigger off of indirect damage, like from the Bleeding status effect.
  • Changed damage of Berserk Chain to 50-100, up from 40-100.
  • Fixed an issue where the Webknecht anatomist potion wasn't preventing an effect it should have.
  • Fixed the Oath of Distinction incorrectly granting experience for kills performed by wardogs.
  • Fixed several minor issues and typos with new events.
I like this one. I know, i know, it is almost negligible but i was thinking that this weapon could use a buff myself lately.
 

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Is there any effective way to deal with stacks of 5+ wurms?
Besides hiding behind allied army/mercenary units.

Depending on the terrain, it's possible.

I remember doing it with a "small" party of 12/14 once against 5/6 lindwurms in a forest map.
Well, my main character was a Berserker (nimble + nudist = Nimble²) and tanked 2 of them while the rest of the brutes were killing lindwurms one by one and the archers were playing hide and seek with the rest.

The Berserker almost died, finally killed one when the troop came to his rescue and i had to rotate extract him.
Good thing he survived since he was the main character.

nimble + nudist = Nimble² - I saw that in Legends but didn't have an occasion to play with it. I says something about "two stacks" of nimble. How does it work? The damage to health is multiplied by 0,4 and then again by 0,4 before being applied? In other words you take only 0,16 of health damage at a cost of not having any armour at all? Or is it something else? Sounds OP, is it OP?
 

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Is there any effective way to deal with stacks of 5+ wurms?
Besides hiding behind allied army/mercenary units.

Depending on the terrain, it's possible.

I remember doing it with a "small" party of 12/14 once against 5/6 lindwurms in a forest map.
Well, my main character was a Berserker (nimble + nudist = Nimble²) and tanked 2 of them while the rest of the brutes were killing lindwurms one by one and the archers were playing hide and seek with the rest.

The Berserker almost died, finally killed one when the troop came to his rescue and i had to rotate extract him.
Good thing he survived since he was the main character.

nimble + nudist = Nimble² - I saw that in Legends but didn't have an occasion to play with it. I says something about "two stacks" of nimble. How does it work? The damage to health is multiplied by 0,4 and then again by 0,4 before being applied? In other words you take only 0,16 of health damage at a cost of not having any armour at all? Or is it something else? Sounds OP, is it OP?

Berserk used to be OP but I think they've nerfed it.

I remember steamrolling everything with a solo nudist berserker in an old version of the mod.
 

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