Incline Battle Brothers + Beasts & Exploration, Warriors of the North and Blazing Deserts DLC Thread

[Darth Canoli]

Legendsfags, I know you can recruit another Berserker on Berserker origin but I can't remember now if it's through events or in towns. Which is it?

Darth Canoli

With a Berserker start, I think there's 1% chance to get one to recruit. I don't know how it works though, could he be generated in a city which you don't visit?

There's also a small chance to get one through the Barbarian prisoner escort, even outside of the Berserker origin, I think I got one a long time ago but never again.
I'd be nice If a compatible submod increased the chance of the latter, just like Magic Origins gives you an opportunity to recruit an hexe through firstborn contracts, (more with a legendary one) even when not playing as a Hexe.

 

[Berekän]

http://battlebrothersgame.com/a-battle-brothers-novel/

A Battle Brothers Novel
From Casey Hollingshead, writer of Battle Brothers and author of the recent Battle Brothers comic, now comes the first novel set in the Battle Brothers universe: The Witch Hunter. This tale concludes the in-game story of the strange traveler who carries the Lorekeeper’s black book, as introduced in the ‘Blazing Deserts’ DLC.

Hated. Distrusted. Needed. Richter von Dagentear, a witch hunter known in legend as the Wight, traverses a realm falling headfirst into war. To survive, he will have to betray his profession’s purpose and undertake a task that goes against everything he believes in. All that stands in his way are backstabbing nobles, cruel sellswords, terrible beasts, and a mysterious traveler from another world.

‘The Witch Hunter’ is 485 pages of Battle Brothers and available now.

eBook

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Paperback

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Visit the Overhype Discord for a chance to win a free copy of the paperback version signed by the team that created Battle Brothers!

Years ago sser sent me his first novel but I never got around to reading it This is my chance to redeem myself

 

[tindrli]

INCOMING!!!!

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it was a god damn massacre

i've lost too many bros

time to retire

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Please tell me that those casualties were all doggies and meatshields.

 

[tindrli]

Please tell me that those casualties were all doggies and meatshields.

not really. i didnt had a singe pure tank and i think i could beat them but lack fatigue

 

[ERYFKRAD]

lack fatigue

More like you had too much of it.

 

[Darth Canoli]

The Legends update is planned for early next week (16t or 17th), I can't remember the exact day but that's an official announcement.

We now have news on V16, which some of you have heard already.
@yogdog will be doing a charity stream on the 17th of May. They will have a copy of V16 which will go public after the stream ends.

https://www.twitch.tv/yogdog
After that, we'll be back to normal.
So if you want to see the V16 build, that stream is the place to be.
That's all for now.

Stay hydrated.

Edited.

 

[Serus]

The Legends update is planned for early next week (16 or 17th), I can't remember the exact day but that's an official announcement.

I need to finally finish KotC2 then but i'm close.

 

[tindrli]

I would like to try legends mods. im downloading it right now should be over in an hour os so.. i wonder how to install it with gogs version of BB?
I figured that out.. copy all contents into data folder but sadly its not working at least for me.
the game does not progress... later i found out this
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBrothers/comments/u5sat9/game_freeze_bb_legends/

thank you

 

[Darth Canoli]

I would like to try legends mods. im downloading it right now should be over in an hour os so.. i wonder how to install it with gogs version of BB?
I figured that out.. copy all contents into data folder but sadly its not working at least for me.
the game does not progress... later i found out this
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBrothers/comments/u5sat9/game_freeze_bb_legends/

thank you

It's probably written all over as a warning, the current Legends build isn't compatible with the latest update.

As it happens, the next compatible Legends build is due next tuesday...

 

[tindrli]

I would like to try legends mods. im downloading it right now should be over in an hour os so.. i wonder how to install it with gogs version of BB?
I figured that out.. copy all contents into data folder but sadly its not working at least for me.
the game does not progress... later i found out this
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattleBrothers/comments/u5sat9/game_freeze_bb_legends/

thank you

It's probably written all over as a warning, the current Legends build isn't compatible with the latest update.

As it happens, the next compatible Legends build is due next tuesday...

i never saw any warning anywhere whatsoever.
anyway will wait next tuesday

 

[tindrli]

Is it out?

something is released 6 hours ago according to github
https://github.com/Battle-Brothers-Legends/Legends-Bugs/releases/tag/16.0.2

however changelog does not mention anything about compatibility
seems its compatible now. its not first patch since they announced it
downloading it now

ok i downloaded this one same as last time just this new version as github says 16.0.2

started it and here is the result

 

[tindrli]

also i want to mention that there is no need to unzip anything in data folder.
just paste legends mod and MSU and that HOOK zipped.
Also or im blind or there is non whatsoever install instructions

 

[Darth Canoli]

also i want to mention that there is no need to unzip anything in data folder.
just paste legends mod and MSU and that HOOK zipped.
Also or im blind or there is non whatsoever install instructions

You should remove script-hook, Legends already has its own version, it could generate bugs.

There's nothing to install, aside from MSU dependant submods but same as everything, you just dump the zip file in the data folder.
There's a mod settings when launching Battle Brothers with Legends + MSU.

I didn't play it but apparently, there's a bug with swifter during caravan escort missions, It'lll probably get fixed soon.

 

[tindrli]

also i want to mention that there is no need to unzip anything in data folder.
just paste legends mod and MSU and that HOOK zipped.
Also or im blind or there is non whatsoever install instructions

You should remove script-hook, Legends already has its own version, it could generate bugs.

There's nothing to install, aside from MSU dependant submods but same as everything, you just dump the zip file in the data folder.
There's a mod settings when launching Battle Brothers with Legends + MSU.

I didn't play it but apparently, there's a bug with swifter during caravan escort missions, It'lll probably get fixed soon.

the only bug that i noticed so far is if you doing caravan mission and save game. and then savescum after bad battle outcome the caravan speed is like elder tortoise.
only solution is quit game and load

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

I don't get how they balance out the costs for everything. For a minor increase in a few stats, you have to pay double the price. For example, I found a couple decent Oathtakers, they seem to be geared to be dodge tanks or nimble melee versions of Hedge Knights. I was lucky and found a good one for 4.6k. It didn't have as many levels or come with good gear. (But who cares? Levels are easy to get and gear is even easier). But all the other ones I've seen have been 10k+. I even saw one that was 12k. But like all backgrounds that cost more than 2k, extremely overpriced in my opinion. I really don't like how common it is for them to have rdef dumped. To me it seems like Oathtakers are just double-priced Adventurous Nobles but with more initiative and no events.

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I don't think the slight stat advantages in melee or the special gear with minor advantages over normal chainmail/chain hoods, etc. justify the in general doubled price. Comparing to a lot of other backgrounds, I don't think the slight increase in initial functionality for the backgrounds justifies the price seeing that A farmer, thief, or militiaman with good rolls and talents in the right places will outperform these high price backgrounds for even less than a 10th or 20th of the price. On top of that, assuming that there is nothing to change the odds of talents being in favorable places other than the exclusion of a couple skills on hedgies or oathtakers, getting lucky a couple of times rolling 50 farmers for 10k is probably more likely than rolling one or two hedgeknights or oathtakers, etc. and seems like a better investment.

 

[HumanTotemPole]

I don't get how they balance out the costs for everything. For a minor increase in a few stats, you have to pay double the price. For example, I found a couple decent Oathtakers, they seem to be geared to be dodge tanks or nimble melee versions of Hedge Knights. I was lucky and found a good one for 4.6k. It didn't have as many levels or come with good gear. (But who cares? Levels are easy to get and gear is even easier). But all the other ones I've seen have been 10k+. I even saw one that was 12k. But like all backgrounds that cost more than 2k, extremely overpriced in my opinion. I really don't like how common it is for them to have rdef dumped. To me it seems like Oathtakers are just double-priced Adventurous Nobles but with more initiative and no events.

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I don't think the slight stat advantages in melee or the special gear with minor advantages over normal chainmail/chain hoods, etc. justify the in general doubled price. Comparing to a lot of other backgrounds, I don't think the slight increase in initial functionality for the backgrounds justifies the price seeing that A farmer, thief, or militiaman with good rolls and talents in the right places will outperform these high price backgrounds for even less than a 10th or 20th of the price. On top of that, assuming that there is nothing to change the odds of talents being in favorable places other than the exclusion of a couple skills on hedgies or oathtakers, getting lucky a couple of times rolling 50 farmers for 10k is probably more likely than rolling one or two hedgeknights or oathtakers, etc. and seems like a better investment.

IIRC it's largely the gear that bloats recruitment costs (though your quoted prices on oathtakers holy shit, not sure what the fuck is going there looking at the stat distributions). Compare the price of a militaman with a billhook to one with another weapon.

Regardless with the expensive backgrounds you're putting down money upfront for a much higher chance of a competent recruit (and a higher potential ceiling) e.g. the average adventurous noble who rolls a 62 for Matk with no stars has the same average expected Matk growth as an average Farmhand (Matk 52) with 2 stars and nearly matches one with 3 stars, assuming that you pick Matk at every level up in each case. Here's an old table someone made that I think still applies:

Edit: courtesy of the wikia re recruitment costs

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The hiring cost depends on several variables:

• Background
• Equipment
• Level

The background defines a base hiring cost going from 30 for the worst ones up to around 150 for the best ones. Swordmasters are an exception with a base cost of 400!

The cost of equipment is set at 1.25 its base value. It is on the high side if compared to settlement prices. Levels are valued thus: 500 x (level – 1) ^ 1.5. With a possible range of 1 to 5, the additional cost goes from 0 to 3,000.

 

[Serus]

Oathakers are seriously overpriced, that's true. Some other high price - but less overpriced - backgrounds otoh can be worthwhile mid-late game when you start having a lot of money. I don't think you can make a very good fencer out of a farmer.

 

[CaffeineConquistador]

Where would a farmer be used for anything other than frontline fighters?

 

[Serus]

Where would a farmer be used for anything other than frontline fighters?

For a back row/reach fighter :D. What he won't be, unless rolled extremely well, is a great tank or bannerman or ranged character. But otoh for a battleforged bro it's a very good background due to high faigue.

 

[Darth Canoli]

the only bug that i noticed so far is if you doing caravan mission and save game. and then savescum after bad battle outcome the caravan speed is like elder tortoise.
only solution is quit game and load

The bug might be from the new escort feature, never tried it but you get the option to escort caravans without town missions.

 

[Serus]

the only bug that i noticed so far is if you doing caravan mission and save game. and then savescum after bad battle outcome the caravan speed is like elder tortoise.
only solution is quit game and load

The bug might be from the new escort feature, never tried it but you get the option to escort caravans without town missions.

Are you talking about Legends?

 

[Brancaleone]

IIRC it's largely the gear that bloats recruitment costs (though your quoted prices on oathtakers holy shit, not sure what the fuck is going there looking at the stat distributions). Compare the price of a militaman with a billhook to one with another weapon.

Oathtaker's gear has better armour/fatigue ratio than regular stuff, think of it as buying something that is one step closer to famed armour and helmet (with the prices adjusted accordingly, since famed armour is wildly more expensive than regular stuff).

 

[HumanTotemPole]

IIRC it's largely the gear that bloats recruitment costs (though your quoted prices on oathtakers holy shit, not sure what the fuck is going there looking at the stat distributions). Compare the price of a militaman with a billhook to one with another weapon.

Oathtaker's gear has better armour/fatigue ratio than regular stuff, think of it as buying something that is one step closer to famed armour and helmet (with the prices adjusted accordingly, since famed armour is wildly more expensive than regular stuff).

That explains it then. Haven't played since BD came out.

Where would a farmer be used for anything other than frontline fighters?

For a back row/reach fighter :D. What he won't be, unless rolled extremely well, is a great tank or bannerman or ranged character. But otoh for a battleforged bro it's a very good background due to high faigue.

The halcyon days of brother farmhand have long left us. The cheap recruit of choice pre resolve nerf & pre nimble rework.

 

[Serus]

IIRC it's largely the gear that bloats recruitment costs (though your quoted prices on oathtakers holy shit, not sure what the fuck is going there looking at the stat distributions). Compare the price of a militaman with a billhook to one with another weapon.

Oathtaker's gear has better armour/fatigue ratio than regular stuff, think of it as buying something that is one step closer to famed armour and helmet (with the prices adjusted accordingly, since famed armour is wildly more expensive than regular stuff).

That explains it then. Haven't played since BD came out.

Where would a farmer be used for anything other than frontline fighters?

For a back row/reach fighter :D. What he won't be, unless rolled extremely well, is a great tank or bannerman or ranged character. But otoh for a battleforged bro it's a very good background due to high faigue.

The halcyon days of brother farmhand have long left us. The cheap recruit of choice pre resolve nerf & pre nimble rework.

You still want battleforged bros just mixed with nimble ones. Battleforged have higher upper limit of how much beating they can take but you need good armour for that which means later in game. Early-mid game nimble >> battleforged but not for long.