KickStarter BattleTech Pre-Release Thread

[orcinator]

Pls no chargebacks, we will totes let you target everything and are not making another mobile game.

 

[Destroid]

Sticking to your guns is saying "Fuck you, it's gonna be better this way!" not making up weird technical excuses.

 

[mutonizer]

Sticking to your guns is saying "Fuck you, it's gonna be better this way!" not making up weird technical excuses.

Nope. It just means refusing to change/re-evaluate your current opinion/action.

Anyway, it's not weird nor technical. He explained his position very well. He just thinks that, based on his years of experience, his target customers are too fucking retarded to comprehend anything beyond the simplest UI and, ontop of that, doesn't think his team can design a decent UI for anything requiring half a brain to handle anyway so he's not even gonna try it. Sounds pretty clear to me and on par with the level of their previous products: braindead mechanics, combined with shit as fuck UI.

 

[ArchAngel]

Sticking to your guns is saying "Fuck you, it's gonna be better this way!" not making up weird technical excuses.

Nope. It just means refusing to change/re-evaluate your current opinion/action.

Anyway, it's not weird nor technical. He explained his position very well. He just thinks that, based on his years of experience, his target customers are too fucking retarded to comprehend anything beyond the simplest UI and, ontop of that, doesn't think his team can design a decent UI for anything requiring half a brain to handle anyway so he's not even gonna try it. Sounds pretty clear to me and on par with the level of their previous products: braindead mechanics, combined with shit as fuck UI.

Well they want to sell more than AoD+Underrail combined. And I don't blame them.

 

[mutonizer]

Well they want to sell more than AoD+Underrail combined. And I don't blame them.

Me neither really and, as said before, they're quite efficient at least and they seem to know what their business is and don't get all philosophical about it. They just do their shit, sell their shit, milk their shit then move on to the next shit that will sell more shit.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

edit. Some points from Q&A:
-No player controlled tanks or other vehicles. Allied AI forces may have tanks.
-Vehicles that they are planning to include into the game:

• Manticore heavy tank
• Striker light tank
• Scorpion light tank
• LRM/SRM Carriers
• Long Tom Artillery
• Demolisher Heavy tank
• Wheeled APC

• Swift Wind Scout Car

-Initiative of vehicles is 1 phase slower than comparative mech class. for example light vehicles move at same time as medium mechs.
-They still haven't decided on infantry.
-They are working on "mech instability", weapon or melee attacks may cause mechs to fall over.
-There will be a player character who can participate in battles, gain exp and suffer injuries. No perma death.

 

[Destroid]

That's unfortunate, the vehicles missions gave the older games like Crescent Hawk's Revenge a mix up.

 

[Mustawd]

Maybe they'll have player controlled vehicles in Battletech Hong Kong?

 

[Norfleet]

That's unfortunate, the vehicles missions gave the older games like Crescent Hawk's Revenge a mix up.

This remind me of a Btech-like game where my team would only use normal tanks, and it drove the Mech guys nuts because we actually knew how to use the advantages of being a tank, despite the advantages given to mech-types by the setting. But you can't fire from hull down in a Mech!

 

[Yeesh]

This remind me of a Btech-like game where my team would only use normal tanks, and it drove the Mech guys nuts because we actually knew how to use the advantages of being a tank, despite the advantages given to mech-types by the setting. But you can't fire from hull down in a Mech!

Yeah, but mechs can get similar protection by taking cover and firing from a prone position... oh wait, I don't remember that from the Battletech rules at all (although in all fairness I forget a whole lot).
I do loves the franchise, but it's almost like the rules and even the concept of gigantic walking warbots was thought up by people all but unfamiliar with 20th century warfare. Standing up on the battlefield has been so passe since 1914 at the latest, and that expression "The bigger they are..." is older still.

 

[Endlösung]

Oshit, old bdsm is back.

 

[Ulminati]

Good thing I didn't back this.
Enjoy your mobile game.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Good thing I didn't back this.
Enjoy your mobile game.

I'm surprised that people expected anything more from them.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

 

[Infinitron]

UPDATE - physical rewards stuff: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech/posts/1582031

BATTLETECH Rewards Update

Hey All! This is Brian, Ops Director here at Harebrained Schemes. I’ve taken on the task of manufacturing the Noble House Heraldry Sets and MechWarrior Flight Jackets but, before we get to that, here’s a quick update on how things are going with the game as well as a few other things of note.

• Game Development: Mike asked me to let you all know that game production continues on schedule - the engineering team is currently heads-down and focused on building out all the core systems that make combat possible - essentially taking the game from a rough, bare-bones prototype to a fully-fledged, scalable Combat Game. Meanwhile, the design team is making maps and thinking ahead to plan out a lot of the game’s campaign and mercenary career “simulation” aspects, and the art team is busy making lots of terrain features, animations, effects - I’ve even spied a few classic BattleTech vehicles starting to roll out of the art factory here...
• Novellas: Mike Stackpole has had consultations with all the Backers that will appear in the novellas and we’re hoping to be able to deliver the first in the series with Backers in the next couple months.
• Our next Dev Q&A will be on June 8 at 2pm PDT on Hyper RPG’s Twitch channel. If you can’t watch live, you can watch them any time if you subscribe to HyperRPG or check them out when they’re posted on the Hyper RPG Youtube channel. Q&As from March andApril and May are available now so you can watch them.
• BattleTech Forum: There continues to be some great conversation about the game and with the Devs over in our Forum. Here’s a thread about Vehicles included in the game.
• Death From Above: Our mercenary team, led by the Lord Commander (our own Mitch Gitelman) continues to play on the battlefield with our custom 3D printed ’Mechs every Friday at 6pm PDT on Hyper RPG. You can read more in this Forum post about how the game intersects with BattleTech lore from Aristocra and catch up on previous episodes on Hyper RPG’s Youtube channel.

Now, on to the main topic of the post...

HERALDRY SETS & FLIGHT JACKETS

We’re really pleased with how all these items came out - everyone here at the office has been trying to swipe the pre-production samples, especially the hats and the jackets. It might be a bit warm when you get your jackets (here in the U.S. at least), but go ahead and show them off at GenCon and PAX West -- we’ll understand.


That's me modeling your swag!

I'm "of mercenary mind" myself...

Manufacturing & Shipping

So you’re probably wondering: is everything is all done yet? Not quite, but it’s getting there! It’s been a busy 6 months finalizing our choice of manufacturing partners, working with designers to find the right colors, materials and measurements, and making arrangements for ocean shipping and fulfillment to your doorsteps! We expect manufacturing to finish at the end of May, after which a container ship needs to travel from China to the U.S., pass through customs, and then travel by truck to our fulfillment company in Texas. Assuming all that goes smoothly,packages should start going out the 2nd or 3rd week of July. With over 5500 packages to ship, it will take a few weeks to get them all out the door and when you get your package will largely be driven by where you are in the world.

Updating and Verifying Your Shipping Address

We know from experience that Backers may have moved since the Kickstarter ended and we don’t want to ship your rewards to whoever’s currently living in your old home -- they might want to keep your stuff!

If you know that your address has changed or you want to double check that it’s correct, you just need to go to your BackerKit account. (Go to https://battletech.backerkit.com, enter your Kickstarter email and - if you don’t already have a login- BackerKit will send you an email with a link directly to your account.) However, don’t panic if you know your address is going to change but you don’t know what it will be. Before we actually start shipping rewards, we’ll send one final urgent reminder to confirm your shipping address. If the address is correct, you won’t need to do anything, otherwise follow the directions to update that information ASAP.

For International Backers Only

As we noted during the Kickstarter: “International shipping cost may increase depending upon your specific location, with the difference to be collected closer to ship date.” Now that dimensions and weights of Heraldry Sets and Jackets are better known, we’re getting updated quotes from our fulfillment company. This will let us know the final shipping cost to international destinations and if what we collected during the Kickstarter was enough. Between now and the end of June, we will contact International Backers if we need to collect additional shipping fees to reach you. We’re still working out the logistics of how that will work: BackerKit or PayPal would be the most likely solutions and we’ll be in touch as soon as we have more information. Thanks for your patience on this.

“Show Us More Pictures Already!”

Visit the BattleTech Forums for EVEN MORE PICTURES, including individual pics of each Noble House set and high-res versions of the pictures shown here.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/2621

Wanted to announce that this months Dev Q&A topic will be all things Melee.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

https://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/2621?page=5

Could someone give a short rundown of major addressed points for those unfortunate people like me that couldn't watch the stream?

1) As part of your movement, you can enage in "melee state" - ie, you can charge, you can DFA, etc.

2) Once in "melee state" each mech can only fire small weapons (small lasers, flamers, machineguns) at the enemy you are locked in melee with

3) Each mech in "melee state" CAN use big weapons to fire at another target, but it misses melee attacks for that turn if it does (i think?)

4) Each mech can disengage from melee as part of it's turn

5) Mich is great at going off at a tangent

6) Hit locations are going to be modeled by looking at relative height of the mechs fighting and the difference in elevation

7) Hit damage decided by weight of the attacker

8) Punching only for mechs with arms. Mechs with no arms or stubby arms will most likely just body-slam the enemy (for less damage)

9) No melee weapons in the scope of the game. So no picking up trees/blown off arms/etc either. No throwing stuff either.

10) Destructible (by melee as well?) environment, in terms of man-made structures (buildings etc)

11) Buildings that mechs can walk on. That buildings can be collapsed, mech will fall.

12) No basements, just the over-the-ground-level parts of the buildings

13) ???

14) PROFIT!

(if i remember more, will update)

[update]

?) custom paintjobs for the mechs are a yes.

[update2]

?) pushing is a yes

?) pushing to throw off a cliff is a yes

 

[Quigs]

) Once in "melee state" each mech can only fire small weapons (small lasers, flamers, machineguns) at the enemy you are locked in melee with

Fuck this in particular.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

it's obviously for balancing reasons and sort of makes sense: smaller weapon could be/are gimballed and can track an enemy in close combat, while the heavy weapons take just too much time and skill to be aimed during melee that they can't be used. finally the 3 ppcs awesome isn't invincible anymore.
i welcome the change.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

9) No melee weapons in the scope of the game. So no picking up trees/blown off arms/etc either. No throwing stuff either.

Fuck this utterly.

 

[Quigs]

it's obviously for balancing reasons and sort of makes sense: smaller weapon could be/are gimballed and can track an enemy in close combat, while the heavy weapons take just too much time and skill to be aimed during melee that they can't be used. finally the 3 ppcs awesome isn't invincible anymore.
i welcome the change.

The most powerful weapons have the shortest range in battletech. It's never made sense from a realism standpoint, but it made for better game balance and fun, 'Getting in close to use the big guns' has always been a thing. So now you're going to have 20 ton Flea mechs with a pair of machine guns holding back the firepower of assault mechs just because they got close? Fucking Nonsense. And after deciding to break a large portion of weapons in the game from firing at their intended ranges because of Melee, they're taking out most melee options?

This is such a bad decision.

 

[Infinitron]

What is the meaning of "melee state" if there are no melee weapons? Is there some kind of "grappling" involved? If so, the heavy mechs could beat the light mechs with sheer physical strength.

 

[Mustawd]

. So now you're going to have 20 ton Flea mechs with a pair of machine guns holding back the firepower of assault mechs just because they got close?

https://youtu.be/JPgMyh7ei6w?t=14

 

[Mozg]

It sounds to me like a way to make lights more relevant. If a 20-ton Stinger that has broken into your opponent's back line can tie up a Marauder right now instead of needing 10 turns to medium laser its armor off it becomes a real asset instead of just tonnage.

Just give AC/20s a special rule to let them get an AoO or something to be the "core a light mech trying to do that shit in one shot" counterplay.

 

[Quigs]

9) No melee weapons in the scope of the game. So no picking up trees/blown off arms/etc either. No throwing stuff either.

Fuck this utterly.

If you can't kill a crippled mech by beating it with it's own leg, it's not Battletech.