KickStarter BattleTech Pre-Release Thread

[Bohr]

And a couple of answers to questions sparked by the video

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

Been looking forward to the game. Shame that Shadowrun: Returns was a disappointment but HBS sorted themselves out with Dragonfall and Hong Kong imo.

 

[ArchAngel]

Only thing I am afraid about this game is that variety of enemies during missions is going to be really really bad. I hope they tweaked enemy AI so different types of mechs play a lot differently and give you different battle experience.
If they are all going to be just standing in one spot and shooting same stuff at you every mission it is going to become boring after 5 missions.

 

[vivec]

Nice, lots of RPG-ish multiple choice event type stuff seen there. Wonder why they've been downplaying that stuff. I guess it doesn't have long-term plot branching consequences but it's still cool.

I doubt they are downplaying. This is a very Todd moment. "See that sector? You can conquer it."

When he speaks of many types of missions, he mentions three. I sure hope that there are more than 3 types.

 

[Infinitron]

I doubt they are downplaying.

They were downplaying it before this. The game's tactical combat layer has gotten all the attention because that's what the beta contains. There have been no recent Kickstarter updates and very few articles in the media detailing the type of stuff you see in that video. In interviews Mitch Gitelman even went out of his way to say "This isn't an RPG, there's no choice". You'd have no idea the game has CYOA sequences at all.

 

[Grotesque]

"This isn't an RPG, there's no choice"

and that's the right attitude to have instead of feeding zealous player expectations who just crave for the opportunity to imagine and project the wildest shit (see Star Citizen) and after you underdeliver in their view, they start to bitch about it on the internets and making the game look bad in the eyes of others

 

[Kem0sabe]

I would be more worried about lack of mission types, lack of gameplay variety than lack of choice or rpg elements in the strategic layer. This is a tactical strategy game after all... If the combat gets old fast than the game will be a disaster.

 

[vivec]

I would be more worried about lack of mission types, lack of gameplay variety than lack of choice or rpg elements in the strategic layer. This is a tactical strategy game after all... If the combat gets old fast than the game will be a disaster.

Pretty much. There is a good chance that the game despite having a great mech-anic might become repetitive due to the nature of freeform missions.

 

[Teut Busnet]

Been looking forward to the game. Shame that Shadowrun: Returns was a disappointment but HBS sorted themselves out with Dragonfall and Hong Kong imo.

I replayed 'Returns' recently and it's really not as bad as many people make it. A 'light 7' compared to the 'strong 8s' of its successors.

I wish they kept actionpoints for Battletech, not sure about the combat. I watched an earlier build, where a legged Centurion could get up, around an enemy mech and knock him down - seemed weird.

 

[Grotesque]

I would be more worried about lack of mission types, lack of gameplay variety than lack of choice or rpg elements in the strategic layer. This is a tactical strategy game after all... If the combat gets old fast than the game will be a disaster.

Personally, if I didn't got bored playing MechCommander for the first time two years ago, I don't think I'll get bored in this one IF the game is properly balanced, brings a challenge at the tactical and ship/squad management level and if has an art style that is polished and sophisticated.

Challenge is the antidote of boredom in any game.

so the only difference in planets is color? A la MAss Effect 3 style?

also from the trailer, the ship upgrade has only nine sections

power systems
structure
drive system
habitat pods

med bays
recreation

mech bays
repair&refit
training modules

 

[Bohr]

(Although I guess Sawyer did have the benefit of more than one difficulty level)

 

[Grotesque]

 

[Modron]

Would look better just the bust on the slate instead of that metal column. You know battle brothers style.

 

[Grotesque]

 

[SerratedBiz]

Huh. So if a Jagermech is considered to be MAX RANGE (from looking at those stupid bars), where does that leave a mech with an ER-PPC or a Gauss Rifle? I had to google these to check out tabletop ranges, but these were always my weapons of choice for long-range "sniper" mech loadouts.

 

[Spark Mandriller]

ER PPCs and gauss rifles aren't officially in the game. We all know they will be, but the devs are pretending it's all level 1 tech. Also they're shorter range than AC2s anyway.

 

[Bohr]

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

ER PPCs and gauss rifles aren't officially in the game. We all know they will be, but the devs are pretending it's all level 1 tech. Also they're shorter range than AC2s anyway.

Isn't the MINIMUM range of an AC2 something like roughly Medium Laser range?

 

[Bohr]

Oh and still a few slots left for the meetup at the end of the month if any interested Codexers are in the area...

 

[Infinitron]

Oh and still a few slots left for the meetup at the end of the month if any interested Codexers are in the area...

Jaesun could go, if he's interested.

 

[Black]

Jaesun can suck a D.

 

[Spark Mandriller]

Isn't the MINIMUM range of an AC2 something like roughly Medium Laser range?

Yep. AC2s are pretty extreme weapons. They're amazingly good at the things they're good at (range, ammo, heat, space), and amazingly terrible at what they're not (they weigh 6 tons and only do 2 damage!?). Though thankfully this game is buffing them so they're not quite so weak.

 

[Bohr]

Slightly disappointing news for Grimoire fans and other lovers of long, detailed manuals

 

[Black]

Tips during loading times are an amazing idea, I love not being able to read any tip because game loads too fast.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Tips during loading times are an amazing idea, I love not being able to read any tip because game loads too fast.

Most loading screen tips are brain-dead obvious shit anyway. Only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Grim Dawn which actually had a few useful ones.