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Fumarole said:The Steam forums are an absolute nightmare. I also find RPGCodex to be so, to a slightly lesser degree.
Edit - I suppose I should clarify. The Steam forums shit status should be obvious to any who has visited, RPGCodex's not least because of moderators openly bragging about pirating games that they then slag off. Classy, that.
Unaco said:I haven't seen anything really positive, or productive ever from the RPGCodex. It just seems to be a place for people to insult and denigrate others. I haven't had much experience with it though... the prolific use of f*g and other childish insults doesn't really induce in-depth reading.
Unaco said:Just had a little more of a scan around on RPGCodex... chose 15 or so forum thread pages at random. On average 3 uses of the word f*g on each, some anti-semitism, someone posts an opinion that doesn't seem to toe the line ("Skyrim isn't an RPG, but isn't as bad as I expected") and they're immediately accused of Trolling or Sockpuppetry. They also seem to be really hung up on graphics, which seems really odd for a community dedicated to RPG's (where graphics aren't that important)... seem to be awfully intent on Skyrim's shadows not being the best.
Wizardry said:I think that's because they know that next-gen games are all about graphics at the expense of gameplay. They then feel entitled to moan about how bad the graphics are in places. I see nothing wrong with that.Unaco said:They also seem to be really hung up on graphics, which seems really odd for a community dedicated to RPG's (where graphics aren't that important)... seem to be awfully intent on Skyrim's shadows not being the best.
Also, about the accusations of trolling, chances are it actually is a troll. A lot of the shitty members create alts every day to cause mischief. Without understanding their posting styles it's difficult for you to judge who is and isn't a troll.
Unaco said:But they aren't.Wizardry said:I think that's because they know that next-gen games are all about graphics at the expense of gameplay.
Wizardry said:That's the popular opinion on the Codex, and most likely the opinion of those people bitching about the graphics. Your thoughts on the matter are completely irrelevant to the topic.Unaco said:But they aren't.
BobsLawnService said:I've only ever been given grief by moderators when I've deserved it. I've given up on a few forums after they've become toxic though. Most forums get to the point where people with desenting opinions are hounded out and things become a negative feedback loop. RPG Codex is one of them, I also think this is why Wizardry xhooses to come here an annoy people, there is nobody else to discuss different things with at RPG Codex because everyone there is completely closed minded and anti-social. After a while when you have the same core group of people on a forum slapping each other on the back and telling each other how their forum is the best and everyone else sucks you may as well close it down.
No forums are immune and I guess that eventually the RPS forums will turn into that as well. Until then I'll stick around.
Re-reading this I'm surprised at how sociopathic it sounds.
For now I'll just enjoy RPS.
Edit: Wizardry's comment about "shit posters" pretty much sums it up nicely. Anyone who disagrees with the opinion of the majority on the forum instantly becomes a troll and shit poster and they get drowned out by the likes of Wizardry. That shit is toxic.
Okami said:The amount of casual racism, sexism, homophobia and antisemitism found in an average RPG Codex thread is, quite frankly, terrifying. They seem to hate everything and have to loudly proclaim so, mostly by using insults that involve the things stated above. Anyone trying to make money is a jew, everyone who's not as harcore as they percieve themselves to be is a fag or gay, etc.. And the moderators never do anything about it, in fact they're usually the most vocal in using these terms.
Wizardry said:Of course the moderators do nothing about it. Free speech is an important part of the culture over there. Moderators only ever really punish spammers. People may be racist or homophobic, but the forum is made up of a wide range of people including a sizeable transsexual contingent.Okami said:And the moderators never do anything about it, in fact they're usually the most vocal in using these terms.
Nullkigan said:"Free speech" is the protection from government sanction for voicing or otherwise expressing opinions concerning the government. It is not, and never has been, in any part of the world, a carte blanche to freely insult or disrespect other individuals. The official stance on which is that it can be resolved amongst individuals. The fact that RPGCodex engages in such derogatory comments as a matter of course has nothing to do with "Free speech" and everything to do with sycophantry and anti-intellectualism.
The solution to which, for most users of the internet, is to ignore the place. Which is why such vitriol is arises when people try to use the place as an example of anything other than what it is.
(Expecting this post to appear on RPG codex and be picked apart as if my disgust at their behaviour is somehow wrong)
Wizardry said:Yeah. It's such a terrible place that Obsidian developers frequently browse the forum.Nullkigan said:The solution to which, for most users of the internet, is to ignore the place. Which is why such vitriol is arises when people try to use the place as an example of anything other than what it is.
Nalano said:The Troll Pen
Ex. RPG Codex
Mods? We don't need no steenkin mods! Our natural acerbity wins the day!
You're not likely to get permabanned, but why would you bother?
Keep said:Go over there and make a contrarian statement. Not a rude one, just an unusual one. See what response you'll get. I don't think it'll be one that'll display a culture of free speech.
So you can say "Jew" or "Fag". So what? It's baby-talk to equate that with free speech. Free speech isn't about "I can express what words I like". Free speech is about "I can express what IDEAS I like".
The type of speech you're defending is a sham of freedom. It promotes intolerance of ideas behind a claim of being tolerant of words. What the words are promoting moreover, is an even further intolerance of other ideas.
"Free speech is an important part of the culture". You really believe that?
RF said:Best part of RPG Codex is who they determine is or isn't a "protected group". If you insult someone of a protected group about that, you're going to get banned.
Protected groups: Furries, transvestites, aspies, fat people.
Non-protected groups: Black people, Jews, Nazis, gypsies.