Bioshock Infinite - the $200 million 6 hour literally on rails interactive movie with guns thread

[Angthoron]

My shit has the potential to become a beautiful plum tree, too. That's a lot of potential I tell you.

 

[evdk]

The System Shock games ran on shittier hardware and were superior in every way.

The people who made them ran on a much better software than current developers though.

 

[Morgoth]

The System Shock games ran on shittier hardware and were superior in every way.

Yeah, but those games also had shittier graphics. Now, I wouldn't mind if they do mediocre graphics but ambitious gameplay/design on modern hardware, but you know that's not acceptable in such a spectacle-driven business anymore.

 

[Peter]

So you agree that calling Bioshock ambitious or full of potential or whatever is stupid after all? Since you p. much said in that post that they went for pretty graphics instead of good gameplay.

 

[Morgoth]

Yes, it's shit compared to Shock 1/2, but I know Irrational still has the will and talent to make something better than your average COD.

 

[Gozma]

I have tried and failed to get more than a couple of hours into Bioshock like three times now. It was the game that made me think I seriously can't get into AAA stuff anymore. So many cornball set pieces.

 

[Infinitron]

Bioshock had good graphics?

 

[Metro]

ITT Morgoth continues to prove his shit taste in games. Only redeemable quality of Bioshock was its art style/setting.

I have tried and failed to get more than a couple of hours into Bioshock like three times now. It was the game that made me think I seriously can't get into AAA stuff anymore. So many cornball set pieces.

Same. Got it for $5 during some Steam sale. Put around two or three hours into it and just couldn't go on anymore.

 

[evdk]

Even Dead Space is a better SS game than Bioshock.

 

[Morgoth]

Even Dead Space is a better SS game than Bioshock.

 

[zerotol]

blabla Bioshock was a good game, it had great atmosphere and some well designed levels. It was nowhere as good as SS2 but so are very few games

 

[thesoup]

The only good thing about Bioshock was the intro.
Other features:
-no AI
-no level design
-no challenge or difficulty which killed any atmosphere the game might have had
-piss poor shooting mechanics
-laughable "rpg elements"

The funniest thing is that Ken Levine spoke how EA was evil and wouldn't let them do a proper SS3, saying they just wanted another dumb shooter with a big boss at the end which is exactly what Bioshock was.

 

[Infinitron]

Bioshock was originally supposed to be more , but it was (quite infamously) butchered by focus testing. Retards just couldn't handle it. One of the first games to really suffer from that, I think.

 

[Ion Prothon II]

Biocock 1 wasn't that bad. At the beginning, the game was somehow challenging and kinda scarrrry, due to lack of resources and unfamiliarity with game environment. Shitty magick, shitty weapons with little ammo, constantly respawning enemies. And then this big fucker coming out from a random doorway and making player's life unhappy.

But then...

-no AI
-no level design
-no challenge or difficulty which killed any atmosphere the game might have had
-piss poor shooting mechanics
-laughable "rpg elements"

Yeah, pretty much this. And scripted cutscenes, a shitload of them.

 

[Peter]

Bioshock was originally supposed to be more , but it was (quite infamously) butchered by focus testing. Retards just couldn't handle it. One of the first games to really suffer from that, I think.

Probably one of the first, yeah.

Watching this video still depresses me. The game could have been so good:

 

[Morgoth]

Bioshock was originally supposed to be more , but it was (quite infamously) butchered by focus testing. Retards just couldn't handle it. One of the first games to really suffer from that, I think.

Probably one of the first, yeah.

Watching this video still depresses me. The game could have been so good:

Looks like the Bioshock I have played.

 

[Peter]

I refuse to believe you're this stupid, Morgoth. If you mean visually, then yes, it does look like the Bioshock we got. But the pacing, atmosphere, combat etc. are all different from the final product.

 

[Morgoth]

But the pacing, atmosphere, combat etc. are all different from the final product.

Not really much, no.

 

[Morgoth]

I remember when Bioshock was first announced in 2004. Was supposed to be about Nazis, and Insects and shit, inspired by "The Fly". Now that's the Bioshock I'd have loved to see.

 

[commie]

blabla Bioshock was a good game, it had great atmosphere and some well designed levels. It was nowhere as good as SS2 but so are very few games

This is why Belgium is only known for sprouts and pedophile rings.

 

[GreyViper]

Yeah I recall that, why didn't they use that setting anyway?

 

[Metro]

Lol @ the infamous Ken Levine over-hype sell video. Nothing in that video suggested the game was going to be more faithful to the System Shock games. Levin's deliberate delivery and over exaggeration of every minor quirk while parroting 'choice and consequence' is just a big con job. OMG YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SHOOT THIS GUY IN THE FACE OR HIT HIM WITH A WRENCH. OMG YOU CAN CHOOSE TO HACK TEH MACHINE OR JUST KILL TEH ROBOT.

 

[Peter]

Lol @ the infamous Ken Levine over-hype sell video. Nothing in that video suggested the game was going to be more faithful to the System Shock games. Levin's deliberate delivery and over exaggeration of every minor quirk while parroting 'choice and consequence' is just a big con job. OMG YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SHOOT THIS GUY IN THE FACE OR HIT HIM WITH A WRENCH. OMG YOU CAN CHOOSE TO HACK TEH MACHINE OR JUST KILL TEH ROBOT.

Are you referring to the video I posted or the one thesoup did?

 

[Metro]

Yours. There's nothing in it that isn't in the game now -- he just presents it more dramatically and with an over abundance of exposition so it gives the impression of being 'epic!'

 

[Peter]

I agree with you about the way it is presented. Levine gonna Levine after all. BUT it is (or at least gives the illusion of being) quite different from the Bioshock we got. Scarcer ammo, tougher enemies (look at the health bars in the splicer fight and the way the health is restored by the consumable after the fight), not as run n gun as Bioshock ended up being, slower weapons, avoiding combat preferable to engaging enemies, as shown in the turret part (this may be dramatization, but it's still the kinda stuff I would've liked to see) etc. Superficially, it looks like the final product, but a lot of details are different, and if the game had been true to the kind of experience the video tried to sell, it would be substantially different.