Bioshock Infinite - the $200 million 6 hour literally on rails interactive movie with guns thread

[Castanova]

I forget. Is this the game that will supposedly feature the "Hardcore 1999 FPS like" difficulty?

About that, I'm wondering what exactly it will entail. I'm hoping for something good but I'm expecting a half-assed implementation where they, say, require you to choose a piece of gear and stick with it throughout the whole game JUST BECAUSE ITZ HARDCOREZ but not because it makes any particular design sense.

 

[Infinitron]

Speaking of Ken, he didn't get into the games industry as a designer, but a writer. I think his transition to lead designer was a bad move.

Yeah, I think this is true for Warren Spector as well. He went from "dude who made some well written, tightly scripted storyfag Ultima spinoffs" in the early 90s, to reinventing himself as some kind of brilliant design guru in the late 90s, which I don't think he was ever really that capable at.

 

[Morgoth]

System Shock 1 was mostly Doug Church's baby, Warren just took all the credit 'cause he's a talker and publishers like to put eloquent talkers into the limelight.

Same with DX1. The brain work behind it was mostly Shelton Pacotti/Harvey Smith.

 

[ohWOW]

:kwanzania:this game will sell like big macs.

 

[DeepOcean]

I really don't like Ken Lavine all that much, the man has an ego of the size of the moon. Bioshock had clever writing in many parts, but being a decent writer on the game industry isn't hard, especially as the competition are composed mostly by men that have the mental age of a toddler. I really wanted that he wasted less time on pseudo-intellectual discussions in his games and started making fun, challenging shooting, Bioshock 2 had a retarded story and the idea of being a bigdad was ridiculous yet it had better shooting, better level design and it was more challenging. He should stop pretending that he want to recreate a FPS/RPG as System shock 2 and accept that he just want to make a popamole shooter.

 

[Sodafish]

TITS

Not anymore: I thought the fembots threw a hissy fit about the cleavage and the devs changed the outfit?

 

[Metro]

Saw that commercial while watching the Walking Dead. Fucking Ken Levine...

 

[HanoverF]

Tits are still in, apparently there will be costume changes.

 

[DemonKing]

I'm hoping the gameplay improves on Bioshock - the combat was dull and telling the story by having every NPC in the game leave their thoughts on tape recorders just lying around the place was pretty quaint given that games like the Half Life series had managed to ditch that concept years beforehand. Also I couldn't fathom how you could set a game in a giant, leaking underwater city but never have to swim or in fact be in any danger of drowning.

I'll admit that Infinite does look reasonably intriguing from an art design perspective but that does not in itself a good game make.

 

[DalekFlay]

Codex, pretty sure this game will mock the jingoist tendencies of most Americans, not celebrate them.

 

[Metro]

I'll admit that Infinite does look reasonably intriguing from an art design perspective but that does not in itself a good game make.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Well there was a stream of a leaked copy of this up. I watched for about an hour. It looks far more linear (And has a quest compass/breadcrumb trail to your objective) and has worse AI than Bioshock.

My interest dropped from "Maybe buy it for $40 from a ruskie and sell parts and try to get it for $20 total or ask for it for birthday" to "$10 shitty FPS standard price". Unless it dramatically improves later (Possible? Not sure how far in he was when I started watching but most of the time I spent watching was him first meeting Elizabeth and then not actually playing the game for 40 minutes and watching interactive cutscenes) which is highly unlikely. Oh well. Even Bioshock was better than this.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Well there was a stream of a leaked copy of this up. I watched for about an hour. It looks far more linear (And has a quest compass/breadcrumb trail to your objective) and has worse AI than Bioshock.

My interest dropped from "Maybe buy it for $40 from a ruskie and sell parts and try to get it for $20 total or ask for it for birthday" to "$10 shitty FPS standard price". Unless it dramatically improves later (Possible? Not sure how far in he was when I started watching but most of the time I spent watching was him first meeting Elizabeth and then not actually playing the game for 40 minutes and watching interactive cutscenes) which is highly unlikely. Oh well. Even Bioshock was better than this.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aliensvspredators Streamer's back up elsewhere, if you manage to catch him while he's still up and want to cringe for yourself.

Edit: Oh god it never stops. You cannot die. Even worse than Bioshock 1. If you fall off a bottomless cliff the game just says "No no baby, no no" and gently sets you back where you were. No quickloading or anything, it just sets you back. If you die in a hail of gunfire, Elizabeth apparently DRAGS YOU HOLE FILLED CORPSE AWAY AND STICKS A NEEDLE IN YOU AND NOW YOU'RE OK. Not only that, she throws shit at you. Guy at was at 1% health, she goes "CATCH THIS" and he goes up to 100%. Game goes "THIS IS A GOOD SNIPING AREA" and she throws a sniper rifle at the PC replacing his primary weapon with it.

I WANT TO DIE

 

[anus_pounder]

D1P

 

[Excidium]

But what about 1999 mode? I heard it turns the game into System Shock 3 WHOA

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Popo brought down another stream. Here you go. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-cyrodiil

 

[Infinitron]

Well there was a stream of a leaked copy of this up. I watched for about an hour. It looks far more linear (And has a quest compass/breadcrumb trail to your objective) and has worse AI than Bioshock.

My interest dropped from "Maybe buy it for $40 from a ruskie and sell parts and try to get it for $20 total or ask for it for birthday" to "$10 shitty FPS standard price". Unless it dramatically improves later (Possible? Not sure how far in he was when I started watching but most of the time I spent watching was him first meeting Elizabeth and then not actually playing the game for 40 minutes and watching interactive cutscenes) which is highly unlikely. Oh well. Even Bioshock was better than this.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aliensvspredators Streamer's back up elsewhere, if you manage to catch him while he's still up and want to cringe for yourself.

Edit: Oh god it never stops. You cannot die. Even worse than Bioshock 1. If you fall off a bottomless cliff the game just says "No no baby, no no" and gently sets you back where you were. No quickloading or anything, it just sets you back. If you die in a hail of gunfire, Elizabeth apparently DRAGS YOU HOLE FILLED CORPSE AWAY AND STICKS A NEEDLE IN YOU AND NOW YOU'RE OK. Not only that, she throws shit at you. Guy at was at 1% health, she goes "CATCH THIS" and he goes up to 100%. Game goes "THIS IS A GOOD SNIPING AREA" and she throws a sniper rifle at the PC replacing his primary weapon with it.

I WANT TO DIE

Could just be the tutorial area that's like that, though.

 

[Angthoron]

Well there was a stream of a leaked copy of this up. I watched for about an hour. It looks far more linear (And has a quest compass/breadcrumb trail to your objective) and has worse AI than Bioshock.

My interest dropped from "Maybe buy it for $40 from a ruskie and sell parts and try to get it for $20 total or ask for it for birthday" to "$10 shitty FPS standard price". Unless it dramatically improves later (Possible? Not sure how far in he was when I started watching but most of the time I spent watching was him first meeting Elizabeth and then not actually playing the game for 40 minutes and watching interactive cutscenes) which is highly unlikely. Oh well. Even Bioshock was better than this.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aliensvspredators Streamer's back up elsewhere, if you manage to catch him while he's still up and want to cringe for yourself.

Edit: Oh god it never stops. You cannot die. Even worse than Bioshock 1. If you fall off a bottomless cliff the game just says "No no baby, no no" and gently sets you back where you were. No quickloading or anything, it just sets you back. If you die in a hail of gunfire, Elizabeth apparently DRAGS YOU HOLE FILLED CORPSE AWAY AND STICKS A NEEDLE IN YOU AND NOW YOU'RE OK. Not only that, she throws shit at you. Guy at was at 1% health, she goes "CATCH THIS" and he goes up to 100%. Game goes "THIS IS A GOOD SNIPING AREA" and she throws a sniper rifle at the PC replacing his primary weapon with it.

I WANT TO DIE

Please tell me that was the 1999 hardcore mode, because that's definitely how I played my games in 1999.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Could just be the tutorial area that's like that, though.

Nope. I looked back in as time passed. Elizabeth constantly throws health and mana at the PC, and is like a Bioshock vita-chamber strapped to your back in case you die. If you thought the penalty for death (A short walk) was too harsh in Bioshock 1, they fixed it! Assuming you even CAN die with an NPC constantly throwing health, ammo, money, and mana at you!

Please tell me that was the 1999 hardcore mode, because that's definitely how I played my games in 1999.

Supposedly it was medium difficulty. The only reason the guy was taking damage was because he was amazingly bad at the game. If he was able to aim at all most every enemy was dropping in a few hits except for a few oddballs like giant robots.

Edit: Stream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/biozero-coke-infinite

Edit the second: If the stream craps out, supposedly http://www.poptarting.com should point you at a new one if/when it gets running. That's more than enough of this for me now. I'm out.

 

[Castanova]

Wha... I never imagined it'd be THAT bad. Holy crap. Plus 1999 Mode only unlocks after you complete the first runthrough of the game. Fuck Levine.

 

[Infinitron]

Plus 1999 Mode only unlocks after you complete the first runthrough of the game. Fuck Levine.

 

[dnf]

Well there was a stream of a leaked copy of this up. I watched for about an hour. It looks far more linear (And has a quest compass/breadcrumb trail to your objective) and has worse AI than Bioshock.

My interest dropped from "Maybe buy it for $40 from a ruskie and sell parts and try to get it for $20 total or ask for it for birthday" to "$10 shitty FPS standard price". Unless it dramatically improves later (Possible? Not sure how far in he was when I started watching but most of the time I spent watching was him first meeting Elizabeth and then not actually playing the game for 40 minutes and watching interactive cutscenes) which is highly unlikely. Oh well. Even Bioshock was better than this.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aliensvspredators Streamer's back up elsewhere, if you manage to catch him while he's still up and want to cringe for yourself.

Edit: Oh god it never stops. You cannot die. Even worse than Bioshock 1. If you fall off a bottomless cliff the game just says "No no baby, no no" and gently sets you back where you were. No quickloading or anything, it just sets you back. If you die in a hail of gunfire, Elizabeth apparently DRAGS YOU HOLE FILLED CORPSE AWAY AND STICKS A NEEDLE IN YOU AND NOW YOU'RE OK. Not only that, she throws shit at you. Guy at was at 1% health, she goes "CATCH THIS" and he goes up to 100%. Game goes "THIS IS A GOOD SNIPING AREA" and she throws a sniper rifle at the PC replacing his primary weapon with it.

I WANT TO DIE

Could just be the tutorial area that's like that, though.

Im sure it will improve at 8h mark, oh wait the game just have 6 hours.

 

[DeepOcean]

Plus 1999 Mode only unlocks after you complete the first runthrough of the game. Fuck Levine.

You can't have the risk of harming the ego of casual players, Infinitron, this is bad. They want to play the game at the highest difficulty and be proud of themselves. If this mode were available from the start, they could get frustrated, they could die once, this is unacceptable, they could even cry. Don't you have compassion for them?

 

[Sodafish]

What happened to Levine? He used to be a bro

 

[DeepOcean]

What happened to Levine? He used to be a bro

Money, lots of money.