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KickStarter Bloodstained - Koji Igarashi's new metroidvania game

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I'm surprised how well regarded this is round here. I remember finishing this and shelving it, not once did I feel like it matched the previous Igavania titles I've played. I sure hope they deliver a sequel b/c I absolutely love this genre. I wonder how different the art style would look for their next at bat.
 

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I'm surprised how well regarded this is round here. I remember finishing this and shelving it, not once did I feel like it matched the previous Igavania titles I've played. I sure hope they deliver a sequel b/c I absolutely love this genre. I wonder how different the art style would look for their next at bat.
It's had a lot of updates since initial release, is that when you played it?
 

RoSoDude

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I'm surprised how well regarded this is round here. I remember finishing this and shelving it, not once did I feel like it matched the previous Igavania titles I've played. I sure hope they deliver a sequel b/c I absolutely love this genre. I wonder how different the art style would look for their next at bat.
It starts out strong because of the kitchen sink mechanics/systems design with arguably the most expansive set of weapon/ability/magic RPG options since Symphony of the Night, but the actual content is sorely lacking. Weak castle design and lackluster enemy variety are the main culprits, but there are also massive balance problems that make the mechanical variety fall flat. Optional content is trash too and there's too much grind available (both farming and upgrading shards for power increases). The only thing that's consistently great over the entire game is the boss design, but if you spam upgraded shard magic you don't even have to engage with that.
 

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I'm surprised how well regarded this is round here. I remember finishing this and shelving it, not once did I feel like it matched the previous Igavania titles I've played. I sure hope they deliver a sequel b/c I absolutely love this genre. I wonder how different the art style would look for their next at bat.
It starts out strong because of the kitchen sink mechanics/systems design with arguably the most expansive set of weapon/ability/magic RPG options since Symphony of the Night, but the actual content is sorely lacking. Weak castle design and lackluster enemy variety are the main culprits, but there are also massive balance problems that make the mechanical variety fall flat. Optional content is trash too and there's too much grind available (both farming and upgrading shards for power increases). The only thing that's consistently great over the entire game is the boss design, but if you spam upgraded shard magic you don't even have to engage with that.
I'm the exact opposite. I thought the game kept getting better as it went on. And I thought the game had a huge variety of enemies. Not sure what you're going on about there. I loved all the hidden little secrets like on the train, the secret boss battles, etc. The game has a ton of content that you can easily miss.
 

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I was going through my mp3 library when it occurred to me, how was the soundtrack for this? any bangers I forgot about? e.g.:
 

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Gears of Fortune is an absolute Banger as the zoomies would say, easily matching the best of Castlevania.

I also love Bloodstained and think it's the most well-realized and inspired project to come out of all the games on Kickstarter. It's likely thanks to Iga being a extremely spirited taskmaster that it's as good as it is, considering the graphics and engine indicate a very narrow budget. All I needed to see was the parallax sky in the tower to know he meant well when making the game and pushed for the best production values possible.
 

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This sounds distressingly nostalgic even before you properly start the game. If Bloodstained 2 ever comes out, Michiru Yamane should compose for it, her music was one of the distinctive highlights of the first game. Madlady still got it.
 

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If Bloodstained 2 ever comes out, Michiru Yamane should compose for it, her music was one of the distinctive highlights of the first game. Madlady still got it.
She composed for Bloodstained 1 and the music doesn't reach heights of her Castlevania days
 

Tse Tse Fly

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If Bloodstained 2 ever comes out, Michiru Yamane should compose for it, her music was one of the distinctive highlights of the first game. Madlady still got it.
She composed for Bloodstained 1 and the music doesn't reach heights of her Castlevania days
I'd say her tracks are still my favourite in all of Bloodstained ost. The game itself was quite unremarkable otherwise (more equipment variety compared to older igavanias, but not much beyond that)
 

Odoryuk

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If Bloodstained 2 ever comes out, Michiru Yamane should compose for it, her music was one of the distinctive highlights of the first game. Madlady still got it.
She composed for Bloodstained 1 and the music doesn't reach heights of her Castlevania days
I'd say her tracks are still my favourite in all of Bloodstained ost. The game itself was quite unremarkable otherwise (more equipment variety compared to older igavanias, but not much beyond that)
I think if they won't land Kojima to do art for Bloodstained 2, then they should at least find a person who knows her art well, the first game's look is atrocious at worst and mediocre at best
 

Tse Tse Fly

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If Bloodstained 2 ever comes out, Michiru Yamane should compose for it, her music was one of the distinctive highlights of the first game. Madlady still got it.
She composed for Bloodstained 1 and the music doesn't reach heights of her Castlevania days
I'd say her tracks are still my favourite in all of Bloodstained ost. The game itself was quite unremarkable otherwise (more equipment variety compared to older igavanias, but not much beyond that)
I think if they won't land Kojima to do art for Bloodstained 2, then they should at least find a person who knows her art well, the first game's look is atrocious at worst and mediocre at best
Kojima wouldn't do anything about those godawful models, animations, lighting etc. And she was an illustrator afaik, didn't do in-game 2d sprites etc.
 

banana

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I like it and I played the shit out of it, I'm just disappointed by the 3D models. 2D sprites would be incredible in a modern Igavania.

Improved modding support would be excellent too.
 

banana

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Yeah it looks decent after you get used to it, but it would legit be a work of art if it were 2D.
 

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Liked Bloodstained a lot better on the replay. I think Iga did a pretty good job all in all and I hope they deliver a better sequel with what they've learned.

Optional content is trash too

Not all of it. I found the Bloodless playthrough to be fun and challenging because of her limitations. Also entertaining to be able to play as one of the bad guys and mess with their powers...and boobs. :smug:
 

Abu Antar

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Dang. The Bloodstained 2 director is stepping down due to a cancer diagnosis.
 

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