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In classes with both professors we would debate constantly to the point where the other students told us they just sat back and listen to us makes points and counter-points. There was no animosity from either professor nor from the liberal friends today. In fact, I would end up hang around some of these professors after class on a balcony outside their offices to talk about many different concepts and topics. I respected them but didn't often agree with them and we would go on for hours stating our positions while still trying to understand the other's. I ended up with As in both classes. I still hung out with one after that class was finished and he would go on to create a research "class" several years later just for me that helped me graduate when I needed only a couple of credits.
This sounds like part of a plot for a 90s coming of age school movie.
 
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In classes with both professors we would debate constantly to the point where the other students told us they just sat back and listen to us makes points and counter-points. There was no animosity from either professor nor from the liberal friends today. In fact, I would end up hang around some of these professors after class on a balcony outside their offices to talk about many different concepts and topics. I respected them but didn't often agree with them and we would go on for hours stating our positions while still trying to understand the other's. I ended up with As in both classes. I still hung out with one after that class was finished and he would go on to create a research "class" several years later just for me that helped me graduate when I needed only a couple of credits.
This sounds like part of a plot for a 90s coming of age school movie.
Sounds more like someone who got a good education and as a result can hold two opposing thoughts in his mind without having a stroke.
 

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Understanding other points of view, wherein Tim gets a bit political



I wish I had known Tim better all those years ago when I interviewed the Obsidian devs as I would have wanted to have a much longer talk with him*. Yes, he's much more liberal than I am but...I like him more and more based on many of his videos like this one**. He reminds me of friends I've had and friends I still have as well as professors from back in my college days (late 80s-early 90s). I remember some of my favorite professors being very liberal in their thinking***. In classes with both professors we would debate constantly to the point where the other students told us they just sat back and listen to us makes points and counter-points. There was no animosity from either professor nor from the liberal friends today. In fact, I would end up hang around some of these professors after class on a balcony outside their offices to talk about many different concepts and topics. I respected them but didn't often agree with them and we would go on for hours stating our positions while still trying to understand the other's. I ended up with As in both classes. I still hung out with one after that class was finished and he would go on to create a research "class" several years later just for me that helped me graduate when I needed only a couple of credits. There was no class being offered at the time that I needed.
Tim comes across as a small "l" liberal like those people in my life in the past and today rather than today's large "L" liberal. One you can actually have a conversation with instead of a shouting match. I despise echo chambers on the Left or Right so I understand his thoughts from this video. Sadly in the world of social media this has been lost****... :negative:


* Also, Avellone knowing now all the drama going on behind the scenes!
** Like the one where he talks about today's generation's (lack of a) work ethic.
*** I'm talking an Environmental Politcs and a Women & Politics class!!
**** Have you seen the Politics, God & the Wealth of Nations thread?!!!

The age of civilized and reasonable debate and discourse is long gone, sadly enough.
 

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The little hands fucked it up for the outer worlds, but, in all honesty, the original idea was good.
To send the player head first in a whacky setting only to progressively reveal how serious the situation actually is, and how every whacky situation was actually to be taken at face value, is an interesting idea. And the setting itself isn't particularly bad.
But the filler writing, and more generally the filler content, required a certain degree of quality for this to properly work.
I don't blame Cain for quitting, nothing's more frustrating than being in no capacity to properly bring an idea to fruition.
 

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lmao TOW was nominated for BAFTA for its writing.
Probably less 'orrible than the other nominees.
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CONTROL Writing Team - Remedy Entertainment/505 Games


DISCO ELYSIUM Writing Team - ZA/UM/ZA/UM


LIFE IS STRANGE 2 (EPISODES 2-5) Writing Team - Dontnod Entertainment/Square Enix


OUTER WILDS Writing Team - Mobius Digital/Annapurna Interactive


THE OUTER WORLDS Writing Team - Obsidian Entertainment/ Private Division


STAR WARS JEDI: FALLEN ORDER Aaron Contreras, Matt Michnovetz, Stig Asmussen – Respawn Entertainment/Electronic Arts

Disco won. TOW actually did beat DE in the Nebula Awards, revealing the bad tastes of those judges.
 

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I swear that thumbnails for Tim's videos couldn't be staged to be better:

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