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Indie Call of Saregnar - a Betrayal at Krondor-inspired RPG
- Thread starter Rhuantavan
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It’ll be a Kickstarter stretch goal.
Implemented the equipment UI.
Wayward Son
Fails to keep valuable team members alive
Good to see this is still a thing, looking forward to an eventual releaseImplemented the equipment UI.
V_K
Arcane
Is it such a good idea to copy the BaK character system so directly though?Implemented the equipment UI.
Mustawd
Guest
Good to see this is still a thing, looking forward to an eventual releaseImplemented the equipment UI.
Looking forward to your unfinished LP of this.
The Old Kiwi
Educated
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Most common name acronym for Betrayal at Krondor, of course!
sounds like a pretty obscure game, I don't think Rhuantavan has ever heard of that one before.
ProphetSword
Arcane
You know, I think I saw a video of that the other day. Isn't that a Call of Seregnar knock off?
Wayward Son
Fails to keep valuable team members alive
I think it is.
Incredible! I googled it up, and it turns out Betrayal of Krondor is SO MUCH ALIKE TO MY GAME!!!! I am MESMERISED! Gotta steal the rest of its mechanics!
Wayward Son
Fails to keep valuable team members alive
The coincidences of life, y'know?
Ok, in all seriousness back to the original question. While I agree that I got heavily inspired by BaK’s character system, the original is a nice, minimalistic, well thought-out UI that I love, and would be hard pressed to further improve. I changed what I thought was needed to be changed (larger grid, separated gems inventory – though I’m not so sure of its limited use, etc), modernised it and took advantage of the higher resolution. I’m sure I’m not done with it yet though.
V_K
Arcane
My question had nothing to do with UI though, UI is fine. I just think that Krondor's stat system is rather inelegant - the largely meaningless separation of HP into health and stamina, each stat being measured on its own scale etc.
InspectorRumpole
Prophet
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Wasn't the creator of BAK tinkering with learning Unity or something btw? I seem to remember a thread from some time ago.
It is a bit awkward, but I still like it. I have improved the health/stamina mechanics though. Stamina (endurance in my case, same thing) does affect many systems in the game, both outside and inside combat. Endurance is negatively affected when not resting enough, not eating, falling ill, and is consumed in certain combat situations and when casting spells. It is also needed to effectively defend oneself. I am still working to take full advantage of that stat, but it is very significant. As for the other skills, I am still evaluating them as I go. Currently I have only slightly modified the ones from BaK.
He did make a walk, encounter, conversation demo in Lumberyard, but afaik abandoned the project. He's all into indie movies these days.
I think the split between health and stamina adds something important to BaK. The most interesting layer of the game to me isn't the details of tactical combat, it's managing your resources between battles and deciding when to use your consumables. Darklands also had a similar distinction between strength and endurance, and when it really works and becomes something that you consider over multiple combats, it's awesome. But in both games, this gets out of whack where it's difficult until you accumulate enough wealth and then it's easy. I hope you can find a solution to that problem.
Darth Canoli
Arcane
What about traps ?
Not that you need any but i guess (hope ?) you're not keeping BaK system for this.
Not that you need any but i guess (hope ?) you're not keeping BaK system for this.
Reminds me how impossible was to predict what weapon/armor enhancers to use before entering combat.
I don't really have any plans to include traps. I am thinking of including something similar to wordlock chests though. I always enjoyed the respite from adventuring the puzzles gave.
Yeah, there has to be some hints about what kind of opposition you're facing to make those choices be meaningful.
As for traps and wordlock chests, I'd just throw out that I've heard a lot of designers say they wasted too much time on minigames like that. If you get hung up on that stuff and it doesn't come easily to you, I'd recommend you ditch it in favor of the core gameplay.
As for traps and wordlock chests, I'd just throw out that I've heard a lot of designers say they wasted too much time on minigames like that. If you get hung up on that stuff and it doesn't come easily to you, I'd recommend you ditch it in favor of the core gameplay.
Darth Canoli
Arcane
Interesting, always loved smart puzzles, even played a flash-MMO game for two weeks last year because of its puzzles, one like the board game mastermind, the other was a small minesweeper-like game on a 9-tiles grid where you had to guess 4 correct tiles with only one mistake allowed, on each tile is marked how many "good" tiles are adjacent (diagonal doesn't count).
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