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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

Haplo

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
Could even be 8/10 without scaling - for enemies and equipment. Well, hope mods will fix that.
 

Mebrilia the Viera Queen

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Not a bethesda fangirl at all. Cd projekt told it was an rpg. Instead is a looter shooter that clearly is miles away from the source material.
Leveled items,Gear Npcs in Cyberpunk?

This is just a themepark shooter.

I am staggered to see many on the codex doing blowjobs at cd projekt red. Do you honestly think this game is worth 60 bucks even in contents?

The only thing it has is some decent parts in the main storyline and some decent sidequests. And a fancy graphic.
 

DeepOcean

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Enough sayd.

CP77 is trying to do different things to PST and FNV though (e.g. driving system, the combat).

Whether or not it does them well is a different debate, but to compare dialogue options from PST to CP and imply that CP's shit dialogue has something to do with the two decade gap and general decline is.. odd. There are modern games with deeper dialogue if that's your thing. CP is more of a looter-shooter/RPG-lite.
That is what Im saying, this shouldnt be on the RPG section but be on general popamole with Borderlands and Ass Creed and other looter shooters/RPG lights where it belongs. Infinitron, only because CDPR lied about this being a RPG, doesnt make it so.:lol:
 

MasPingon

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"To be honest with you, I didn't want to play it. I had to force myself sometimes".

2/4 of the review is entirely about bugs and broken stuff.

The final verdict is... 6/10 (for PC launch).

Yeah, I found this odd too. This review is very forgiving.
 

Myobi

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Not a bethesda fangirl at all. Cd projekt told it was an rpg. Instead is a looter shooter that clearly is miles away from the source material.

Leveled items,Gear Npcs in Cyberpunk?


This is just a themepark shooter.


I am staggered to see many on the codex doing blowjobs at cd projekt red. Do you honestly think this game is worth 60 bucks even in contents?


The only thing it has is some decent parts in the main storyline and some decent sidequests. And a fancy graphic.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game


Not being the RPG you expected or wanted is fairly understandable, but its still an RPG by definition. Now is it worth 60€? I’ve sunken 180 hours already on it, and still going, does it have a lot of issues? Clearly, but luckily, I’m being able to enjoy it regardless, so to me, yes, I don’t regret spending the money on it.


Just as I don’t regret buying Skyrim, Fallout, Andromeda and so on, but they are far from perfect games.
 

kangaxx

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Enough sayd.

CP77 is trying to do different things to PST and FNV though (e.g. driving system, the combat).

Whether or not it does them well is a different debate, but to compare dialogue options from PST to CP and imply that CP's shit dialogue has something to do with the two decade gap and general decline is.. odd. There are modern games with deeper dialogue if that's your thing. CP is more of a looter-shooter/RPG-lite.
That is what Im saying, this shouldnt be on the RPG section but be on general popamole with Borderlands and Ass Creed and other looter shooters/RPG lights where it belongs. Infinitron, only because CDPR lied about this being a RPG, doesnt make it so.:lol:

Well, it seems most people on here think PST is a useful comparison to CP77 when it comes to dialogue options... so I guess we're in a minority.
 

Mebrilia the Viera Queen

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Planescape is not an useful comparsion but this game have less freedom on dialogues and even gameplay of Fallout 4

That's for speaking. Take the two in comparsion.

Open world is just an hollow scenery with retarded A.I and no interaction at all. At least in Fallout 4 i can freaking sit on a bench i can ambush a caravan along the way and i can do many things but here? You shot to an npc you turn over then return to watch that side. All NPC disappeared and car swapped.

Dialogue choices are even less than Yes Sarcastic Yes No and Questions.

Gameplay choices? Just two. Rambo vs Sneaky Netrunner.

Heck even Fallout 4 make the crafting absolutely better.

Fallout 4 even being the worst fallout has way more reactivity allows you to side with facions and again Fallout 4 is a very poor RPG.

But this is a new bottom.

THe only thing this game has better in comparsion is some of the writing on some counted quest and graphic.

You could make this game like a tube level shooter and won't change a damn thing.

THis game is linear not meaningful choice. Is just what it is a looter shooter with a story. It is not an RPG
 

agris

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Signs point to v1.07 dropping on steam in the next few days: https://steamdb.info/app/1091500/history/

A new QA branch was posted ~2 hours ago. Their internal QA branch is not frequently updated, and when it is, a new update is rolled out within several days (looking at previous patches).

edit: corrections
 

TheHeroOfTime

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Enough sayd.

Let me fix that

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PD: Valuating rpgs because of the number of dialog options available is retarded. Is not about the amount of options, is about if these options actually matter or not. Fallout 3 offered a lot of dialog options like New vegas but it was utterly shit because they didn't matter at all. The Witcher 3 has almost the same dialog system that Cyberpunk 2077 and it offers way more different paths and resolutions. The issue in Cyberpunk 2077 is that nothing actually matters, only the options near the end of the game.
 
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Mebrilia the Viera Queen

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Enough sayd.

Let me fix that

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PD: Valuating rpgs because of the number of dialog options available is retarded. Is not about the amount of options, is about if these options actually matter or not. Fallout 3 offered a lot of dialog options like New vegas but it was utterly shit because they didn't matter at all. The Witcher 3 has almost the same dialog system that Cyberpunk 2077 and it offers way more different paths and resolutions. The issue in Cyberpunk 2077 is that nothing actually matters until near the end of the game.

THat is simply untrue many "Choice" you take in cyberpunk 2077 have not meaningful concequences. The only thing it change is the endings and 90% of them are selected trough dialogue and depends on what quest you did.
I don't agree on his initial statement but this sums it up



Come on this game is a SCAM and you are praising it!
 

Yosharian

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Not a bethesda fangirl at all. Cd projekt told it was an rpg. Instead is a looter shooter that clearly is miles away from the source material.

Leveled items,Gear Npcs in Cyberpunk?


This is just a themepark shooter.


I am staggered to see many on the codex doing blowjobs at cd projekt red. Do you honestly think this game is worth 60 bucks even in contents?


The only thing it has is some decent parts in the main storyline and some decent sidequests. And a fancy graphic.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game


Not being the RPG you expected or wanted is fairly understandable, but its still an RPG by definition. Now is it worth 60€? I’ve sunken 180 hours already on it, and still going, does it have a lot of issues? Clearly, but luckily, I’m being able to enjoy it regardless, so to me, yes, I don’t regret spending the money on it.


Just as I don’t regret buying Skyrim, Fallout, Andromeda and so on, but they are far from perfect games.
You don't regret buying Andromeda?

What the fuck is wrong with you
 

DeepOcean

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Enough sayd.

Let me fix that

af4400cfa90d3259e5ed87ed2bfc61f2o.png


PD: Valuating rpgs because of the number of dialog options available is retarded. Is not about the amount of options, is about if these options actually matter or not. Fallout 3 offered a lot of dialog options like New vegas but it was utterly shit because they didn't matter at all. The Witcher 3 has almost the same dialog system that Cyberpunk 2077 and it offers way more different paths and resolutions. The issue in Cyberpunk 2077 is that nothing actually matters, only the options near the end of the game.
Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk arent RPGs. They are action games with some very light elements of CYOA at best. Last RPG on this list was made on 2010.
 

Slaver1

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Not a bethesda fangirl at all. Cd projekt told it was an rpg. Instead is a looter shooter that clearly is miles away from the source material.

Leveled items,Gear Npcs in Cyberpunk?


This is just a themepark shooter.


I am staggered to see many on the codex doing blowjobs at cd projekt red. Do you honestly think this game is worth 60 bucks even in contents?


The only thing it has is some decent parts in the main storyline and some decent sidequests. And a fancy graphic.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game


Not being the RPG you expected or wanted is fairly understandable, but its still an RPG by definition. Now is it worth 60€? I’ve sunken 180 hours already on it, and still going, does it have a lot of issues? Clearly, but luckily, I’m being able to enjoy it regardless, so to me, yes, I don’t regret spending the money on it.


Just as I don’t regret buying Skyrim, Fallout, Andromeda and so on, but they are far from perfect games.
Mass Effect Andromeda is straight garbage not even comparable to the worst game Bethesda ejaculated out its ass (Fallout 4.) The buggy physic-less action game CP2077 is also loads better, as disappointing as it is. Fuck MEA and the alien, irreverent post-modern sensibilities that created it.
 

Myobi

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You don't regret buying Andromeda?

What the fuck is wrong with you

I don't even know where to start :(
On my defense I bought it after the shitstorm price drop, just like fallout 76. But I must confess that I had fun with the combat system, the rest sucked balls thought...
 

DeepOcean

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Right, so next we discuss whether C&C are essential for RPGs, because we have to compare CP2077 to Falout 4.
Nah, it isnt even a discussion, cRPGs are dead, there is no discussion to be had because the subject matter doesnt exist anymore. Once on a blue moon, a more serious pretender from a smaller developer shows up and we are so desperate that we cant really expect much anyway, so if you are going to have really incline tastes, you will need to make your own game. If the FPS genre were like the cRPG genre, there would be alot of FPS out there where you cant shoot and people would be discussing if it shooting was an essencial component for FPS because the marketing team of corporations were using the FPS term to qualify even shampoo commercials.

Games like Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk really dont deserve that discussion because they arent serious pretenders and never meant to be, the problem is that companies bastardized the RPG genre so much with Marketing nonsense that people who have no gentleman taste just use the definition spewed by the marketing teams of the AAAssholes. So, lots of newfags come with that naive bullshit on their heads and we need to educate them into gentleman tastes so they can be as miserable as we ole cRPG fans are.
 

Tyrr

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You don't regret buying Andromeda?

What the fuck is wrong with you

I don't even know where to start :(
On my defense I bought it after the shitstorm price drop, just like fallout 76. But I must confess that I had fun with the combat system, the rest sucked balls thought...
I bought it 1 week after release.
BUT it was just procrastinating on my master thesis. Dropped it after the first planet.

I guess I should thank Bioware...
 

DalekFlay

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Nah, it isnt even a discussion, cRPGs are dead, there is no discussion to be had because the subject matter doesnt exist anymore.

Plenty of them exist, they're just not AAA blockbusters and no one should ever expect them to be. Even in the CRPG heyday of Baldur's Gate 2 the sales of those games were way below what it would take to make a AAA one today. It's just not realistic at all, and you shouldn't go to Walmart looking to buy fine wine. A lot of movie fans do the same thing and rant about how they "don't make smart sci-fi movies anymore" or whatever, ignoring the many smart films that come out because they're not advertised during football games. Different markets, different things.
 

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