CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[mkultra]

That's how this big companies optimize even rockstar gayming nerfed lod values in gta 5 and called it optimization

yes, i know.. they're so fake, but of course it sounds better than "good news everyone! we have now degraded the graphics for more FPS!"

 

[lycanwarrior]

YongYea unlisted his Soyberponk review.

In his original review he raved about it and said it was worth the hype, but now he admits that his video was "rushed." He also places the blame on CDPR because he trusted their reputation more than putting out a good review.

For what it's worth, I used to take YongYea seriously. Not a fanboy or anything, but I welcomed his criticisms of game companies, thinking his views were reflective and systemic, not simply jumping on bandwagons. Like with CD Projekt, no amount of 'looking back' and 'addressing' this and that can rebuild credibility. My two cents, but I think it's a real emperor's new clothes moment for a lot of people.

He's just another turncoat fraud.

Wasn't he part of the people who played a demo of the game months before it's release? He was very much aware of the state of CP2077, he just decided to ride on that CDPR's dick until the tide started to turn.

Crowbcat Cyberpunk 2077 video pretty much nails it about people like Yongyea, in fact he stopped making CDPR/CP2077 for a while after that video was released.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt (for now) since evidently there were a number of people who enjoyed the game (mostly on PC or next-gen console).

When Gameranx and Wccftech had their annual Reader's Choice awards, Cyberpunk did rank near the top for "Best game overall" lol. I think for both sites, Cypberpunk actually won "RPG of the Year" awards lmao



I haven't played CyberPunk 2077 and don't have any plans to do so.

 

[racofer]

 

[Wunderbar]

https://www.databreaches.net/babuk-re-organizes-as-payload-bin-offers-its-first-leak/

CD Projekt. CD Projekt was attacked in February by attackers using what is believed to be the Hello Kitty ransomware. The hackers had put the stolen source code up for sale on a Russian-language forum, listing it all as:

• Full sources for the games Thronebreaker , Witcher 3 , the undeclared Witcher 3 RTX (the version of the Witcher with raytracing) and of course Cyberpunk 2077
• Dumps of internal documents
• CD Projekt RED offenses .

They subsequently withdrew the auction listing, claiming that they had received a satisfactory offer from outside of the forum, and that because of a condition of no further distribution, they were removing the listing from auction.

Now Payload Bin says they will make all source code available on its site. So what, exactly, happened to that sale with “no further distribution?”

So hackers decided to leak CDPR's shit despite being paid in order no to do so. And in addition to Witcher 3, cyberpunk 77 and gwent source codes they are also going to leak CDPR's PS4, PS5, Xbox series X and Switch SDKs.

poles are fucked.

 

[racofer]

https://www.databreaches.net/babuk-re-organizes-as-payload-bin-offers-its-first-leak/

CD Projekt. CD Projekt was attacked in February by attackers using what is believed to be the Hello Kitty ransomware. The hackers had put the stolen source code up for sale on a Russian-language forum, listing it all as:

• Full sources for the games Thronebreaker , Witcher 3 , the undeclared Witcher 3 RTX (the version of the Witcher with raytracing) and of course Cyberpunk 2077
• Dumps of internal documents
• CD Projekt RED offenses .

They subsequently withdrew the auction listing, claiming that they had received a satisfactory offer from outside of the forum, and that because of a condition of no further distribution, they were removing the listing from auction.

Now Payload Bin says they will make all source code available on its site. So what, exactly, happened to that sale with “no further distribution?”

So hackers decided to leak CDPR's shit despite being paid in order no to do so. And in addition to Witcher 3, cyberpunk 77 and gwent source codes they are also going to leak CDPR's PS4, PS5, Xbox series X and Switch SDKs.

poles are fucked.

Probably retaliation against CDPR's terrible handling of Cyberpunk post launch. It has been six months and pretty much no progress other than some band-aids and staples. No DLCs, no significant updates, the "fixes" are hilariously bad (cop spawn distance increased 20%!!!), and now the latest CDPR meetings suggest they are moving on and sweeping Cyberpunk under the rug.

I would like to think CDPR will learn a hard lesson from this fiasco, but that ain't happening. Instead, now they will focus on 2 instead of 1 AAA release simultaneously! What could go wrong?

 

[Alienman]

Don't you guys have phones?

On slide 6 you can see our plans related to The Witcher universe for this year. Spokko, the youngest member of the CD PROJEKT family, is about to launch The Witcher: Monster Slayer, a free-to-play mobile location-based RPG that uses AR technology.

Anyway, I recommend giving the pdf a read, pretty interesting insight.

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2021/06/transcript-q1-2021.pdf

 

[Justicar]

https://www.databreaches.net/babuk-re-organizes-as-payload-bin-offers-its-first-leak/

CD Projekt. CD Projekt was attacked in February by attackers using what is believed to be the Hello Kitty ransomware. The hackers had put the stolen source code up for sale on a Russian-language forum, listing it all as:

• Full sources for the games Thronebreaker , Witcher 3 , the undeclared Witcher 3 RTX (the version of the Witcher with raytracing) and of course Cyberpunk 2077
• Dumps of internal documents
• CD Projekt RED offenses .

They subsequently withdrew the auction listing, claiming that they had received a satisfactory offer from outside of the forum, and that because of a condition of no further distribution, they were removing the listing from auction.

Now Payload Bin says they will make all source code available on its site. So what, exactly, happened to that sale with “no further distribution?”

So hackers decided to leak CDPR's shit despite being paid in order no to do so. And in addition to Witcher 3, cyberpunk 77 and gwent source codes they are also going to leak CDPR's PS4, PS5, Xbox series X and Switch SDKs.

poles are fucked.

So what now tards last time everyone was saying that they invented the hacking story xD

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

...and now the latest CDPR meetings suggest they are moving on and sweeping Cyberpunk under the rug.

If that happens the entire reputation will go out the window and rightfully so. That opinion will solidify since they won't be releasing anything anytime soon.

I can already see people constantly asking them 'When will you finish Cyberpunk?' like it is the next 'Why did you fire Brad's wife?'.

 

[gerey]

I can already see people constantly asking them 'When will you finish Cyberpunk?' like it is the next 'Why did you fire Brad's wife?'.

It's been six months.

To draw a comparison to No Man's Sky, another overhyped turd that released to catastrophic reception - by the 6 month mark the NSM developers were already busy rolling out major bugfixes and content patches, and they've kept up support for the game for almost 4 years now. Arguably, the game is still the same shallow experience it was at launch, with the same flawed gameplay design, but at the very least Hello Games stuck by their product.

What have CDPR done in the past 6 months to unfuck the game? Besides that hilariously vague "roadmap" from a while back, they've actually done nothing much to improve the actual game.

The fact they've given up getting the game back on the PS Store should be a pretty big hint that they've abandoned the product and are just waiting for the majority of people to stop giving a fuck so when they do announce they've dropped support for the game, so the backlash won't be nearly as vocal.

As for their future, I don't think it's all that bright. Their one ace in the hole was their (fraudulent) reputation as a costumer friendly company that put quality of their product first, and whose call to fame was the quality of writing.

Now that they're apparently spending more time pandering to homosexuals and trannies, and hiring more and more dangerhairs, it's obvious that the quality of the writing will take an equally sharp nosedive.

And that's saying nothing of the fact that they have fuckall to showcase - and this will remain the case for at least another 2-3 years. 2077 likely burned away a lot of talent, energy and goodwill among the workforce, and it's unlikely many will remain to suffer through another mismanaged clown show and get mocked by the whole gaming community again.

They had once chance to make it to the big leagues, and they blew it. EA, Ubisoft and the like don't have to give a shit, they have stuff like FIFA and AssCreed to fall back on if all else fails, CDPR don't have a consistent cashcow to milk.

 

[Zer0wing]

https://www.databreaches.net/babuk-re-organizes-as-payload-bin-offers-its-first-leak/

CD Projekt. CD Projekt was attacked in February by attackers using what is believed to be the Hello Kitty ransomware. The hackers had put the stolen source code up for sale on a Russian-language forum, listing it all as:

• Full sources for the games Thronebreaker , Witcher 3 , the undeclared Witcher 3 RTX (the version of the Witcher with raytracing) and of course Cyberpunk 2077
• Dumps of internal documents
• CD Projekt RED offenses .

They subsequently withdrew the auction listing, claiming that they had received a satisfactory offer from outside of the forum, and that because of a condition of no further distribution, they were removing the listing from auction.

Now Payload Bin says they will make all source code available on its site. So what, exactly, happened to that sale with “no further distribution?”

So hackers decided to leak CDPR's shit despite being paid in order no to do so. And in addition to Witcher 3, cyberpunk 77 and gwent source codes they are also going to leak CDPR's PS4, PS5, Xbox series X and Switch SDKs.

poles are fucked.

What should we make of the code once it goes public (it's still a big if)? That CP2077 is programmed by yesterdays students and studio interns? Wow big suprise.

 

[Gerrard]

https://www.databreaches.net/babuk-re-organizes-as-payload-bin-offers-its-first-leak/

CD Projekt. CD Projekt was attacked in February by attackers using what is believed to be the Hello Kitty ransomware. The hackers had put the stolen source code up for sale on a Russian-language forum, listing it all as:

• Full sources for the games Thronebreaker , Witcher 3 , the undeclared Witcher 3 RTX (the version of the Witcher with raytracing) and of course Cyberpunk 2077
• Dumps of internal documents
• CD Projekt RED offenses .

They subsequently withdrew the auction listing, claiming that they had received a satisfactory offer from outside of the forum, and that because of a condition of no further distribution, they were removing the listing from auction.

Now Payload Bin says they will make all source code available on its site. So what, exactly, happened to that sale with “no further distribution?”

So hackers decided to leak CDPR's shit despite being paid in order no to do so. And in addition to Witcher 3, cyberpunk 77 and gwent source codes they are also going to leak CDPR's PS4, PS5, Xbox series X and Switch SDKs.

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Since when did they pay anything to the hackers? Sounds like something that should be released in an official statement.

1 million refunds was a youtuber estimate? I purposely didn't watch the avalanche of bad take videos, so I figured it was just a retarded rumor that snowballed. Somehow I'm not surprised people are more than willing to parrot baseless claims as long as they're made by someone with an inflated number under their name

You do realise that's what I was saying, right? A YouTuber polled his channel followers and then incorrectly extrapolated to the general gaming public

Yeah, because the actual number of returns was close to 10%, so higher than 1 million.

 

[Ibn Sina]

I think CDPR is doing just fine. If you look at their financial and equity situation without butthurt fan sensationalism, you will see that they have enough cash and assets to go full speed ahead. Their plans for the future include acquisitions and expansions, not contractions. They have several projects on the side, they have Gwent which they continiously release expansions for, GoG etc.

 

[Trash Player]

The owners are doing mighty fine. It is a successful venture moneywise. The question is keeping RED's label or not.

 

[Marat]

If that happens the entire reputation will go out the window and rightfully so.

CDP's reputation among thinking people is already down the drain and consoomers will defend them to the death, whatever they do. Moving on from CP2077 will have no further negative consequences, as long as they do it quiet like and continue to release insignificant "fixes".

 

[DeepOcean]

Yes, they are fine, yes, consumers are retards, the question is are they going to reinflate the hype so they are seen by investors as having a stock as valued as Ubisoft? Can they reinflate that delusion? Nope, that delusion died with Cyberbug. Iwinski was a greedy retard aiming at Rockstar with the whole CyberGTA online and that dream died for now. Those announcements of multiple AAA projects all with multiplayer sounds like they trying hard to do some investor baiting to reinflate their stock.

There is a problem too with the public perception of Cyberpunk as a franchise, sure, consumers are sheep but even sheep have memory and their last memory of the franchise is trying to boot the game on their PS 4 and playing a PS 1 game. CDPR invested alot on it and they will spend years making those new projects, unless they plan to just burn through their reserves, they need a revenue stream for all those years and doesnt seem logical to abandon Cyberbug when it is their only game with assets ready to milk for years to come.

However, Iwinski retarded greed was the main cause behind the launch of this game, I have no doubt his hubris and greed driving him to overextend again and think abandoning Cyberbug to get to the new peojects ASAP is a good idea, he is a greedy retard that lost more than half of his company valuation, so retard do retarded things is totally possible.

 

[Gargaune]

I don't think it's worth circling back to the "greed" argument when the game's sorry state is clearly a failure of design and project management, not intentions. That's the real tragedy of Cyberpunked, that it could've hit its lofty goals if the creative process had been more accurate and thorough, and they won't get that chance again any time soon. As for their next game, it'll be a Witcher 4 as CDPR will pivot to patching up their company brand as opposed to struggling to get diminishing returns in "redeeming" CBP. They'll market TW4 on its predecessors' cachet and then, assuming a successful rollout, they'll swing back to a CBP2 and pitch it on TW4's performance.

 

[Marat]

Stock price doesn't change the dividents. Hype for CP inflated the price and any businessman knew it won't last. What was of consequence was the sales and there CDP found huge success.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

As for their next game, it'll be a Witcher 4 as CDPR will pivot to patching up their company brand as opposed to struggling to get diminishing returns in "redeeming" CBP.

How is finishing CP2077 a diminishing return? Their next AAA game won't be ready for years.

 

[d1r]

Source code leak?

Is that some reverse psychology to animate modders to fix their game (for free!)?

 

[Gargaune]

How is finishing CP2077 a diminishing return? Their next AAA game won't be ready for years.

I imagine they'll put out an expansion or something to squeeze all the revenue on offer, but don't expect any sweeping gestures in terms of free DLC or the base game, it's starting to look like there isn't much good will left to mine there, at least not at an accessible cost.

Is that some reverse psychology to animate modders to fix their game (for free!)?

Speaking of modding, it's a damn crying shame CDPR didn't bother supplying a native solution for adding content into the game. There's fair bunch of modders editing base assets (I love my red Quadra Ferrari) but it's all replacers, can't put new stuff in there.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

...it's starting to look like there isn't much good will left to mine there, at least not at an accessible cost.

If a piece of shit game like "No Man's Sky" could earn grudging respect for how much work they put into it then why not CP2077?

 

[Marat]

If a piece of shit game like "No Man's Sky" could earn grudging respect for how much work they put into it then why not CP2077?

For one, because CDP is already backpedaling on the whole idea of "finishing" CP2077. For another, No Man's Sky devs haven't released another game, success of which we can judge, so theirs is not a relevant example.

 

[Gargaune]

If a piece of shit game like "No Man's Sky" could earn grudging respect

It doesn't, and I've expressed my apprehension of that dubious narrative in here before. I also suspect that a factor may be the press which was rooting for NMS before launch, and might've been eager to push this "redemption" bullshit, despite the fundamentals of the game not having changed.* Meanwhile, some journalists have long seemed to harbour a certain antipathy towards CDPR.

As for CBP, I don't think that "it runs okay now" is gonna do much for its reputation at this point, and I fear that all the drama over console performance has largely obscured the core design issues the game has. I'd like to see a sizeable megadungeon expansion for it, an opportunity for CDPR to prove that they can do agency and level design (as much as the game's framework could support), but I'm starting to doubt we'll get something like that.


* This is your friendly reminder that NMS is €49 on GOG, compared to DX4 at €45. Both are 2016 games and that's about where the similarities end.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

I don't think that "it runs okay now" is gonna do much for its reputation at this point

I wasn't thinking about it 'running okay now' when comparing it to the rework that went into NMS.

 

[Gargaune]

I wasn't thinking about it 'running okay now' when comparing it to the rework that went into NMS.

So what are you thinking of, what could they do at this point? 'Cause I just don't see how you "fix" core design in a AAA-game post launch, you're constrained by existing level design, VO assets, save compatibility etc., Cyberpunk isn't some overpriced procedurally-seeded little art project like NMS. Not to mention that CDPR's running costs are orders of magnitude higher than HG's.