CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Correct_Carlo]

Please show examples of plot leeched from books.

Are you really this ignorant or are you just being obnoxious? As RRRrrr put it:

They haven't created anything by themselves in the entire series-no major character, no protagonist, no major conflict, no major romance, not even a major antagonist.

The Nilfgaard invasion of Northern Kingdoms - basically copy-pasted from the books. Prophecy about evil snow coming to freeze everything and Ciri having power to stop it - literally ripped with no alteration from the books. Major characters are just rehashing their arcs from the books. Same love triangle dynamics as in the books. No new conflict introduced in the game that wasn't present and fleshed out in the books. Main plot in the game is basically nonexistent - what is there is just recycling the villain from the books and going through literally the same motions. The writing in the games is overall very poor and unimaginative, leeching heavily from the original work. The game was fucking bad and I'm beyond debating it anymore.

The Bloody Baron (aka Phillip Strenger) isn't in the books. CDPR created him wholesale, and it was probably the best quest in the game (if not one of the best RPG quests ever). As far as I know Paweł Sasko, the writer/creator of the Bloody Baron and that quest, is still at CDPR (he was head writer on Cyberpunk, I think).

The Bloody Baron is a good case in point for how the Witcher video games can occasionally succeed at doing the Witcher universe better than the books do them. The books have their moments, but absolutely nothing in them is as engrossing as that quest and its myriad branching storylines. At their best, the Witcher games do that all the time, although it's not really a fair comparison as part of why they are so successful is that they use the medium of video games to do things that books can't (just as the charm of the books touch on things that the video games could never do). Even then, if you eliminated all the gameplay and just captured a video of someone playing that quest, it'd still be a million times better than anything on the TV show, and even much of the books.

 

[Fedora Master]

Nice to see that at least the coomers are busy. Probably busier than the devs.

 

[Justicar]

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Nice to see that at least the coomers are busy. Probably busier than the devs.

That means that the cyberpunk has some fanbase at least compare this to outer trannies released almost 3 years ago

 

[Fedora Master]

Im more interested in "The Very Horny Caterpillar" to be fair.

 

[Bad Sector]

As far as I know Paweł Sasko, the writer/creator of the Bloody Baron and that quest, is still at CDPR (he was head writer on Cyberpunk, I think).

The writer for Bloody Baron was Karolina Stachyra, she left CDPR a few years ago (she works at Techland now).

 

[Zer0wing]

The writer for Bloody Baron was Karolina Stachyra, she left CDPR a few years ago (she works at Techland now).

She also wrote story bits related to Yennefer. Funny how the two topics the has touched upon both involve cheating.

 

[Slaver1]

A heavily modded version of The Witcher 3 is still the best game around. I tried playing games like AC:Valhalla, Cyberpunk, Days Gone, Baldurs Gate 3 & Mass Effect legendary edition in recent weeks and they all pale in comparison. This after spending thousands of hours on W3 and beating it twice.

 

[RepHope]

cdpr already showed that they can grab source material and create something new no?

THey have demonstrated that they can reuse source material characters and conflicts. Not that they can create original ones. Jonny's conflict with Arasaka was not created by CDP. Jonny's character was not created by CDP. They retold an existing story masquerading as a new one.

As for the "great writing" of CP2077-all characters were written as bisexuals and all dialogue felt like the characters was flirting with you. That retard River felt like he wanted to suck V's cock so badly. The Panam whore wanting female V to massage her legs and then claiming she doesn't like women? Yeah wtf. Girls whisper softly while massaging each other's feet all the time nothing seuxal duh

You’re retarded. The worst parts of W3 were when they were relying heavily on book stuff. The Wild Hunt sucked ass. Their best “story” in W3 was Hearts of Stone which entirely featured original characters. And earlier you had W2 which also featured a great antagonist in Letho and cool new characters such as Roche. The idea that they never created anything new that was good and everything good came from Sapkowski is blatantly untrue and everyone who thinks it is is a moron.

 

[d1r]

A heavily modded version of The Witcher 3 is still the best game around. I tried playing games like AC:Valhalla, Cyberpunk, Days Gone, Baldurs Gate 3 & Mass Effect legendary edition in recent weeks and they all pale in comparison. This after spending thousands of hours on W3 and beating it twice.

How about you start playing good games instead of comparing a modded W3 to garbage - mediocre games like that?

 

[Slaver1]

A heavily modded version of The Witcher 3 is still the best game around. I tried playing games like AC:Valhalla, Cyberpunk, Days Gone, Baldurs Gate 3 & Mass Effect legendary edition in recent weeks and they all pale in comparison. This after spending thousands of hours on W3 and beating it twice.

How about you start playing good games instead of comparing a modded W3 to garbage - mediocre games like that?

BG 2/TOB with Sword Coast Stratagems and Myth 2 have been filling the classic PC gaming niche. Both still as outstanding as ever.

 

[Gradenmayer]

Could have just made a dev plan, but instead they forced employees to make a prototype, just to flush it later, making former quit out of anger (repeat at least 3 times).

CP2077 is a logical conclusion of letting managers, who don't know shit about games, take key role in the development process.

I don't think this or their next games will ever be good, CDPR completed it's Bioware route, by sinking all the actual good developers and replacing them with overworked interns.

 

[DeepOcean]

Also, only because some stuff was taken from the books, that doesnt mean it is a simple process of copy pasting events, there are plenty of examples of media that used material from older media with terrible results, just look what Disney is doing to Star Wars and the dumpster fire that is Star Trek. The dialog on Witcher 3 was very well written, the story had some serious pacing issues and go way too much into fantasy to appease the normies (Witcher 2 story is still the best, suck it haters) but just categorizing everything as bad writing is wrong.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

if the witcher books were well written they'd have been translated into an important language prior to the game being released

 

[Marat]

Typical amerimutt subhuman never imagining there could have ever been anything worth reading not written in his village idiot dialect. And Witcher books were translated to twenty something languages way before the first game came out.

 

[Zer0wing]

cdpr already showed that they can grab source material and create something new no?

THey have demonstrated that they can reuse source material characters and conflicts. Not that they can create original ones. Jonny's conflict with Arasaka was not created by CDP. Jonny's character was not created by CDP. They retold an existing story masquerading as a new one.

As for the "great writing" of CP2077-all characters were written as bisexuals and all dialogue felt like the characters was flirting with you. That retard River felt like he wanted to suck V's cock so badly. The Panam whore wanting female V to massage her legs and then claiming she doesn't like women? Yeah wtf. Girls whisper softly while massaging each other's feet all the time nothing seuxal duh

You’re retarded. The worst parts of W3 were when they were relying heavily on book stuff. The Wild Hunt sucked ass. Their best “story” in W3 was Hearts of Stone which entirely featured original characters. And earlier you had W2 which also featured a great antagonist in Letho and cool new characters such as Roche. The idea that they never created anything new that was good and everything good came from Sapkowski is blatantly untrue and everyone who thinks it is is a moron.

Nothing here is about twitchar 3.
His take on Cyberpunk 2077 is true, stuff added by cdp writers has questionable to okay quality with a couple of diamonds among fluff writing being a rare sight.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

most of the people that made the witcher series good are probably long gone by now, it happens with every developer that scales up after success

 

[Gerrard]

Their best “story” in W3 was Hearts of Stone which entirely featured original characters.

Entirely original characters, such as fanfiction.net tier character Gaunter O'Dimm, and story based on another literary work.
Also, as I already mentioned, B&W's nonsensical scenario was all shat out by "writers" at CDPR.


Spot the r/witcher redditards in this thread.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Their best “story” in W3 was Hearts of Stone which entirely featured original characters.

Entirely original characters, such as fanfiction.net tier character Gaunter O'Dimm, and story based on another literary work.
Also, as I already mentioned, B&W's nonsensical scenario was all shat out by "writers" at CDPR.


Spot the r/witcher redditards in this thread.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Typical amerimutt subhuman never imagining there could have ever been anything worth reading not written in his village idiot dialect. And Witcher books were translated to twenty something languages way before the first game came out.

Not in English. The first English translation of the first short story collection debuted alongside the release of the game in 2007. They didn't start translating the rest of the series until after Witcher 2 debuted. It's a reminder that Witcher 1 was almost completely ignored in the English speaking world.

 

[Gargaune]

CDPR's TW3 narrative hasn't gotten accolades for creativity, but rather for execution. Wherever various characters of plot points were taken from, they're well rendered through competent dialogue, consistent agendas and, let's be honest, stellar cinematic presentation. It's less of a case of "this material is so fresh and innovative" and more of "this old material was beautifully presented", which hasn't really been a given in the medium thus far.

 

[Ibn Sina]

Thronebreaker: A Witcher tales was released just a year ago and had the same level of story telling power as the W3 if not more, in fact I would compare it to W1 level of story faggotry. It was quite good. The choices presented in the game would never ever feature in any mainstream RPG. You can save an elf from a lynching by a mob or leave him to his fate whom later turns out to be a spy and kills several of your soldiers if you save him. You find out that the (((non humans))) acted out as a third column when you visit the ruins of a city and you are informed that they blew the walls from the other side to let the Niflgaardians in. Being a kind, forgiving liberal actually punishes you hard in the game. I think this proves that CDPR still has good writing power, it is just not directed or used properly. But this thread loves Reddit tier sensationalist garbage like CDPR is doomed! Or no one is left in CDPR!( whatever the fuck that means).

 

[Zer0wing]

Thronebreaker: A Witcher tales was released just a year ago and had the same level of story telling power as the W3 if not more, in fact I would compare it to W1 level of story faggotry. It was quite good. The choices presented in the game would never ever feature in any mainstream RPG. You can save an elf from a lynching by a mob or leave him to his fate whom later turns out to be a spy and kills several of your soldiers if you save him. You find out that the (((non humans))) acted out as a third column when you visit the ruins of a city and you are informed that they blew the walls from the other side to let the Niflgaardians in. Being a kind, forgiving liberal actually punishes you hard in the game. I think this proves that CDPR still has good writing power, it is just not directed or used properly. But this thread loves Reddit tier sensationalist garbage like CDPR is doomed! Or no one is left in CDPR!( whatever the fuck that means).

Where's the connection between Thronebreaker and CP2077, may I ask once again, patiently?

 

[Fedora Master]

Writing isn't this games biggest problem.

DEAD GAME

 

[ekrolo2]

Their best “story” in W3 was Hearts of Stone which entirely featured original characters.

Entirely original characters, such as fanfiction.net tier character Gaunter O'Dimm, and story based on another literary work.
Also, as I already mentioned, B&W's nonsensical scenario was all shat out by "writers" at CDPR.


Spot the r/witcher redditards in this thread.

Witcher always blatantly took stuff from other literary works, twisting them around into a new configuration. A Grain of Truth, the second story ever in the series, is a blatant rip off of Beauty and the Beast. It just changes enough finer details around to make it a good take on th story in its own right.

Hearts of Stone changes vast, vast amounts of Pan Twardowski. Way more than the aforementioned short story. Besides the premise and some allusions to the original like the moon business, its almost its own beast.

 

[Ibn Sina]

Thronebreaker: A Witcher tales was released just a year ago and had the same level of story telling power as the W3 if not more, in fact I would compare it to W1 level of story faggotry. It was quite good. The choices presented in the game would never ever feature in any mainstream RPG. You can save an elf from a lynching by a mob or leave him to his fate whom later turns out to be a spy and kills several of your soldiers if you save him. You find out that the (((non humans))) acted out as a third column when you visit the ruins of a city and you are informed that they blew the walls from the other side to let the Niflgaardians in. Being a kind, forgiving liberal actually punishes you hard in the game. I think this proves that CDPR still has good writing power, it is just not directed or used properly. But this thread loves Reddit tier sensationalist garbage like CDPR is doomed! Or no one is left in CDPR!( whatever the fuck that means).

Where's the connection between Thronebreaker and CP2077, may I ask once again, patiently?

I was replying to above posters who were saying that all talent left CDPR after Witcher 3. They still have writing talent, but lack leadership and direction.