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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

gerey

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People there want pointless fucking things like functional Arcade Games when the game lack basic shit like police wanted system, there's always the stupid one that want pointless things and complain about the stupid shit.
I do have to agree with the reddit subhumans on this one. CDPR did promise a living, breathing city, and the marketing heavily implied the game was going to have plethora of side activities ala GTA/Yakuza. The gameworld is littered with arcade machines you can do nothing with, when even Shenmue and San Andreas allowed you to play such games. Same with pachinko machines, and where are the casinos? There's braindance disks to buy, and you are even given a device to experience braindance, but again you can do nothing with it. There's no barber shops or tattoo parlours, no interactive food vendors.

The game reminds me of a very shitty Mafia 1, where the city is basically just a pretty backdrop - only that Mafia 1 never pretended it was anything but, and it still managed to have functional car AI, realistic car physics and a stellar police response system. It's pathetic that games from 2002 and 2004 (Mafia 1 and GTA: SA respectively) have more immersive, ambitious gameworlds and plethora of fun side activities.

The fact basic features are as equally nonexistent as interesting side content does not make redditors wrong. Also, I took a look at the subreddit and they are also complaining about the shit gameplay/bugs and poor performance too.
 

MarxistPlato

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i mean the game is lacking in significant narrative c&c but usually the people complaining about are completely braindead and pick from examples

like from the SECOND that this was announced to be an open world voiced protag game it was OBVIOUS what to expect

but no instead lets cry that the game isnt on par with bloodlines(lol)

like literally braindead

To be fair, CDPR fucked them over with marketing they did, but with this circlejerk, reddit for example, lost it's mind completely and is bashing this game for EVERY thing - there are bunch of people saying that; driving is TERRIBLE, story is TERRIBLE, character creation is TERRIBLE, shooting is TERRIBLE - like, what the fuck?
Yeah quite surprising for redditors to be right.

Right in what sense? Because that game is far in these aspects to be considered "Terrible". Fuck me, if that's terrible, then i don't know what is Fallout 4, 76, GTA, or whatever comes to compare cyberpunk with. I absolutely laugh as fuck, when i see some people praising GTA V for it's driving system - they had so much time, and it's still not as great as it should be. On the other hand, CDPR have 1 game with driving and it's still serviceable at least.
 

Readher

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Is it hinted in the ending that they'll work on getting you a body later on though?
The ending is very mysterious and there's no hint what happens to you. I found it to be extremely well executed, the depressive and uncertain atmosphere was really heavy and the music was a great fit. That ending is probably the highest point of the game for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfcL2wTPXLA&t=1h24m38s
I guess there's Misty's tarot card reading that's supposedly bad, but I don't believe in that crap.
 

Lord of Riva

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Strap Yourselves In Pathfinder: Wrath
There are supposedly 3 normal and 2 extra endings.
So the three normal ones - going with Arasaka, going with Johnny & Rogue and what would be the third one?

There is this shitty IGN list I am basing this on *shrug*:

  • Ending 1: Accept Hanako's Offer (Trust Arasaka)
  • Ending 2: Ask for Rogue's Help
  • Ending 3: Call Panam
  • Ending 4: Secret Ending - Suicide
  • Ending 5: Secret Ending - Go It Alone
 
Vatnik Wumao
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Is it hinted in the ending that they'll work on getting you a body later on though?
The ending is very mysterious and there's no hint what happens to you. I found it to be extremely well executed, the depressive and uncertain atmosphere was really heavy and the music was a great fit. That ending is probably the highest point of the game for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfcL2wTPXLA&t=1h24m38s
I guess there's Misty's tarot card reading that's supposedly bad, but I don't believe in that crap.
I agree that it was great. Didn't even expect it to be that long either once I reached the orbital station segment, so props to the devs.
 

Fedora Master

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I guess the 2070s are just like the 1970s and extremely short shorts made a comeback

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Tyranicon

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i mean the game is lacking in significant narrative c&c but usually the people complaining about are completely braindead and pick from examples

like from the SECOND that this was announced to be an open world voiced protag game it was OBVIOUS what to expect

but no instead lets cry that the game isnt on par with bloodlines(lol)

like literally braindead

To be fair, CDPR fucked them over with marketing they did, but with this circlejerk, reddit for example, lost it's mind completely and is bashing this game for EVERY thing - there are bunch of people saying that; driving is TERRIBLE, story is TERRIBLE, character creation is TERRIBLE, shooting is TERRIBLE - like, what the fuck?
Yeah quite surprising for redditors to be right.

CDPR have 1 game with driving and it's still serviceable at least.

 

MarxistPlato

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i mean the game is lacking in significant narrative c&c but usually the people complaining about are completely braindead and pick from examples

like from the SECOND that this was announced to be an open world voiced protag game it was OBVIOUS what to expect

but no instead lets cry that the game isnt on par with bloodlines(lol)

like literally braindead

To be fair, CDPR fucked them over with marketing they did, but with this circlejerk, reddit for example, lost it's mind completely and is bashing this game for EVERY thing - there are bunch of people saying that; driving is TERRIBLE, story is TERRIBLE, character creation is TERRIBLE, shooting is TERRIBLE - like, what the fuck?
Yeah quite surprising for redditors to be right.

CDPR have 1 game with driving and it's still serviceable at least.



You quoted serviceable driving, where i meant feeling of driving a car, and you posted glitched game and AI fuckups. I won't say, game is a modern Arcanum if it comes to bugs etc. on premiere.
 

Ezeekiel

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At this point, I'm deeply convinced Steam reviews are manipulated.

The reviews on GOG are at 3.8/5, which would make roughly 76/100. On GOG, where the hardcore CDPR fanbase goes to shop.
The reviews on Steam are at 79/100. On Steam, where everyone whines about everything all the time, whether it's a legitimate issue or not.
No asterisk next to the score means that at least officially, steam has left the reviews alone so far.
Do you have that option enabled which lets you see the true score regardless of whether steam ignored reviews during a review bombing event (only ever for negative review bombing, never positive lol)?

No, I don't, can I enable this in the Steam client or do I need a browser extension for it?
In the client itself. In the upper right where your steam profile name is displayed (and your steam wallet balance), click on that and then on store preferences in the drop down menu. Then scroll down until you get to "review score settings" and set it to allow "off topic" review activity to affect the review score.

Kind of disturbing that even steam has the review manipulation bs...
 

Tyranicon

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i mean the game is lacking in significant narrative c&c but usually the people complaining about are completely braindead and pick from examples

like from the SECOND that this was announced to be an open world voiced protag game it was OBVIOUS what to expect

but no instead lets cry that the game isnt on par with bloodlines(lol)

like literally braindead

To be fair, CDPR fucked them over with marketing they did, but with this circlejerk, reddit for example, lost it's mind completely and is bashing this game for EVERY thing - there are bunch of people saying that; driving is TERRIBLE, story is TERRIBLE, character creation is TERRIBLE, shooting is TERRIBLE - like, what the fuck?
Yeah quite surprising for redditors to be right.

CDPR have 1 game with driving and it's still serviceable at least.



You quoted serviceable driving, where i meant feeling of driving a car, and you posted glitched game and AI fuckups. I won't say, game is a modern Arcanum if it comes to bugs etc. on premiere.


Have you played the game? Driving feels like steering a drunken elephant.

Ran into a dozen invisible walls that were assets loading in. Had my car fly off into space. Had another car teleport into mine.

"Serviceable."

If we're not counting glitches, might as well not count the lack of driving AI and 99% of the game too.
 

MarxistPlato

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i mean the game is lacking in significant narrative c&c but usually the people complaining about are completely braindead and pick from examples

like from the SECOND that this was announced to be an open world voiced protag game it was OBVIOUS what to expect

but no instead lets cry that the game isnt on par with bloodlines(lol)

like literally braindead

To be fair, CDPR fucked them over with marketing they did, but with this circlejerk, reddit for example, lost it's mind completely and is bashing this game for EVERY thing - there are bunch of people saying that; driving is TERRIBLE, story is TERRIBLE, character creation is TERRIBLE, shooting is TERRIBLE - like, what the fuck?
Yeah quite surprising for redditors to be right.

CDPR have 1 game with driving and it's still serviceable at least.



You quoted serviceable driving, where i meant feeling of driving a car, and you posted glitched game and AI fuckups. I won't say, game is a modern Arcanum if it comes to bugs etc. on premiere.


Have you played the game? Driving feels like steering a drunken elephant.

Ran into a dozen invisible walls that were assets loading in. Had my car fly off into space. Had another car teleport into mine.

"Serviceable."

If we're not counting glitches, might as well not count the lack of driving AI and 99% of the game too.


Im talking about DRIVING, driving as; sit, turn up the car and steer the wheel to you know, test it and how it feels - thats what i mean with driving. I'm not talking about driving into invisible walls, jumping into roofs as roach in Witcher 3 - not at all. That's a separate issue to address. To me driving is not that bad, especially for an RPG.
 

Lord of Riva

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Strap Yourselves In Pathfinder: Wrath
Damn, If I had these bugs I would also think it's a trainwreck. Shit like this simply does not seem happen on decent hardware.

Hóngwèibīng if you missed it, as I edited in. I made a street kid this time around
 

Fedora Master

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Jensen's apartment in Human Revolution and V's apartment are like polar opposites. Jensen's pad told you SO MUCH about his personality just by how it looked. V's apartment could be any generic NPC's in the game.

They were right with the "all style, no substance" criticism and I'm not even really out of the intro.
 

J_C

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Project: Eternity Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
Jensen's apartment in Human Revolution and V's apartment are like polar opposites. Jensen's pad told you SO MUCH about his personality just by how it looked. V's apartment could be any generic NPC's in the game.

They were right with the "all style, no substance" criticism and I'm not even really out of the intro.
Jensen is pre-established character, while V is a blank slate who you have to fill up, so the generic apartmen fits right there.
 

Fedora Master

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Jensen's apartment in Human Revolution and V's apartment are like polar opposites. Jensen's pad told you SO MUCH about his personality just by how it looked. V's apartment could be any generic NPC's in the game.

They were right with the "all style, no substance" criticism and I'm not even really out of the intro.
Jensen is pre-established character, while V is a blank slate who you have to fill up, so the generic apartmen fits right there.

I thought the entire point was that V was pre-established to a degree?
 
Vatnik Wumao
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Jensen's apartment in Human Revolution and V's apartment are like polar opposites. Jensen's pad told you SO MUCH about his personality just by how it looked. V's apartment could be any generic NPC's in the game.

They were right with the "all style, no substance" criticism and I'm not even really out of the intro.
Jensen is pre-established character, while V is a blank slate who you have to fill up, so the generic apartmen fits right there.

I thought the entire point was that V was pre-established to a degree?
Preestablished on the basis of his lifepath, same as the Warden was in DAO.
 

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