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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

Mefi

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Can we discuss builds?

I'm done with my first character and this time I intend to roll a proper single weapon type build for hard/very hard e.g. max reflexes > assault. Had a taste of cold blood with my first, unoptimized build and liked it. Any ideas?

Handgun with cold blood (esp. frozen precision) is pretty strong. Throw in some support for stealth and it's almost trivialises harder difficulties. How I did my first run. I left off just out of the prologue with my attempt at a Molly Millions build but I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that melee might be viable but it's not much fun (at least with mouse and keyboard).
 
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I wasn't expecting a game with a 100 million dollar budget to be this janky.

Oh well, priorities and stuff.

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Origin

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Probably the most overrated part of this game is graphics.

There is nothing special going on there, that wasn't seen before in similar games, and also executed better. Some of these games are more than 5 years old.

I'm talking about ultra settings.

So why is everybody so impressed with the graphics? I played the game on PC, and I just don't see it.

Also, console owners are really fucked. CD Projekt basically ripped them off. I'm quite surprised how this doesn't generate more noise.
 
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RRRrrr

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I wasn't expecting a game with a 100 million dollar budget to be this janky.

Oh well, priorities and stuff.

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Wtf. Where are the men? Without men, who even worked on this game?

Oh, with all these women, I see how developers in CDP are paid less than other game developers in Poland-Marcincuck only had po pay 77c on the dollar :M
 
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TheDiceMustRoll

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I stupidly spent 12 hours fucking around before I got to the game's Title screen, lol. I didn't realize that the whole premise of the entire game doesn't happen until, like, 5 or 6 missions in. So I was like level 12 by the time I got there. I also haven't been paying attention to pre-release stuff, so I genuinely had no idea how Keanu Reeves' character would be worked into the story until I saw it.

Anyhow, I don't think I gave this game a fair shake, based on that. The writing is really good for the main missions, and I'm even starting to enjoy the side, open world, missions, especially the ones where you hunt the cyber-things (forget their names).

Its biggest weaknesses are still that (1) it's too easy, (2) its upgrades and implants are dull, and (3) the open world can be dull/wonky at times, but I think 1 and 3, at least, could be ironed out.

Maybe I'm just a sucker for a very well done, on rails, set-piece, but the entire heist sequence, leading into the reveal of Keanue Reeves' character, and everything after, was brilliantly done. Like, I actually stayed up 2 hours to complete it, I shut off my own music and turned on the game's music to listen to it, and I didn't fast forward through any of the dialog like I do with 90% of all games. The last time that happened with me with a video game was Witcher 3.

Its biggest flaw was, obviously, that it was on rails and there was zero player choice involved. But, whatever. Enough of the missions do have different ways of approaching things that I don't mind terribly if there are on rails story sequences as long as they are good, and that was among the best on rails sequences I've ever seen.


Youll get tired of johnny shittybands on rails sequences
 

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Probably the most overrated part of this game is graphics.

There is nothing special going on there, that wasn't seen before in similar games, and also executed better. Some of these games are more than 5 years old.

I'm talking about ultra settings.

So why is everybody so impressed with the graphics? I played the game, and I just don't see it.
Just because there are better looking games doesn't mean this is not looking good. It does. I don't remember anybody saying that this is the best looking game ever.
 

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Something that will never happen in cyberpunk, seriously they could have copied the code for this 1:1 and nobody would complain cant require that much processing power when I played this shit as a kid on a pc with 256 ram and 800 mhz processor....
 
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J_C

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It begins :lol:


Serves them right for playing on a shitty platform.

Bu-bu-but consoles are cheaper and more convenient. Yeah? I have a Core I5-2550K, 8GB DDR3 RAM and a RX 570, and I can play on medium settings, getting 30-45 fps (although on 1680x1050 resolution). I could turn off some more features to go near 60fps if I wanted to. And this config of mine costs around 300 USD, and can run most new games.
 
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Origin

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Just because there are better looking games doesn't mean this is not looking good. It does. I don't remember anybody saying that this is the best looking game ever.

It looks "good" with too much caveats for most expensive game production in history.

EDIT: Why fake news rating? It is the most expensive game in the history.
 
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Something that will never happen in cyberpunk, seriously they could have copied the code for this 1:1 and nobody would complain cant require that much processing power when I played this shit as a kid on a pc with 256 ram and 800 mhz processor....


And this is a game from 2002.
Sometimes the cops even use a phone-booth to call for reinforcement. Oh well...
 

Mintbarbecue

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Just because there are better looking games doesn't mean this is not looking good. It does. I don't remember anybody saying that this is the best looking game ever.

It looks "good" with too much caveats for most expensive game production in history.

Pretty sure they even changed from third person to first person view only because nvidia needs to sell their new overpriced RTX line so you can ogle yourself in the mirrors.
Think they're even bigger sellouts than Bioware. They at least put out a game with the overhyped marketing.
CDPR managed to put out a techdemo for nvidia.( a barely functioning one)
 

Child of Malkav

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Trying to play stealthy in this game is like trying to break the game. I feel like some kind of speed runner looking for out of bounds or any% tricks. I have never seen a more retarded, badly done, badly designed stealth system than in this one. Combined with the bugs, this gets to inhumane levels.
CDPR people clearly never made nor played other games outside of action ones and it fucking shows. Remaining undetected for a minute or so feels weird, like I shouldn't be able to do this unspeakable thing. It feels like actively fighting the game. I should just switch to shooter mode and have fun or even better, uninstall. DXMD absolutely shreds this retarded game in every imaginable way.
 

Inziladun

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Eh not getting the hate. The game is alright, I think the biggest disappointing factor so far as been the limited dialogue choices and the generic gameplay options (open map, locations where you're notified to kill things, people spamming you with quests, boxing quest chain, racing quest chain.) To some degree this is unavoidable, but it all comes together pretty meh. But my expectations for this game were pretty much nonexistent because CDPR didn't release jack shit about it, and what little they teased I only half paid attention to. The city itself is pretty great, wish there were more ways to interact with it.

All in all, it's a decent game. AI is laughably bad though.
8 years and 300$ mils poured into a "decent" game - a supposed top quality open world RPG at that, is quite underwhelming, to say at least.
At this point, RDR2 is, without a joke, more of an RPG than this game is and that's saying a lot.

Yeah, see that's how I know you bought into the Hype machine and were smelling the farts. I don't care what CDPR does with their money or what their budget is for their games. If the game is decent, that's alright with me. Their financials are a personal issue.
 

msxyz

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I've played a bit more and I've decided to turn down the NPC/Cars population down to the minimum. It's not a performance problem, it's just that these 'filler' NPCs are so annoying and useless that I'd rather not have them swarming around me. Ironic how many people complained that, from early screenshots leaked, the crowd density seemed to be too low.
 
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TheDiceMustRoll

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I do like the cnc but you dont get told stuff. In my first fucking around file i apologized for not calling jackies mok sooner and got invited to his wake and had a chance to help his mom and misty develop a lil mom daughter thing. In my second file i chose the "its my fault" option and got a "nah but here have jackie's bike key" dropped off in front of my house. The CnC is there but its not Bioware obvious.

Edit: although its weird to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for the relic heist since jackie brings it to you and none of the bad shit that happens is your fault.
 

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It begins :lol:


Serves them right for playing on a shitty platform.

Bu-bu-but consoles are cheaper and more convenient. Yeah? I have a Core I5-2550K, 8GB DDR3 RAM and a RX 570, and I can play on medium settings, getting 30-45 fps (although on 1680x1050 resolution). I could turn off some more features to go near 60fps if I wanted to. And this config of mine costs around 300 USD, and can run most new games.


I mostly play console because on a PC, I spent 80% of the time modding and tweaking a game, and 20% actually playing the game. Kinda explains why I'm in dev, actually.
 

Druid Ardun

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tldr the game is good but the retards who swallowed everything they've been fed feel betrayed, because the advertisement made the game look better (what a fucking surprise I've never seen misleading adverts before).

I do believe that the fate of CDPR is sealed and that they will get only worse, but they managed to pull this game off, even if it be their last dying breath. A year or two from now when the game is patched and dlcs are out, it will be remembered as one of the better modern rpgs.
 

Terenty

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Hell's Kitchen from Deus Ex was infinitely more living, immersive and interesting to explore than the whole fucking Night City
 
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Played around 4 hours of this.

Awful performance, terrible TAA solution that makes everything blurry as shit, shitty animations, awful, toddler-level gameplay (shooting reminded me of Outer Worlds, it's that bad) with surface-level stats that don't actually matter at all, zero difficulty, I could go on and on. But hey, at least the neon and reflections look cool, right?

It's garbage. Hot fucking garbage. To see people actually invoke Deus Ex in relation to this turd is laughable. Even the popamole Deus Ex games are miles beyond this.
 
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