Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

[rusty_shackleford]

Owlcat knows their core audience

explains a lot about the octavia romance

 

[Semiurge]

Rapey, homophobic, sexist, racist desert walking sim. Where can I get a game like this?

There is a movie adaptation of Harlan Ellison's book "A Boy and His Dog". That's where the "glowing ones" came from, among other things...

 

[Trashos]

It's not like Avellone was Owlcat's lead writer. He wrote one companion, did some editing and called it a day.
His job was likely done even before the controversy.

There is a lot that reminds of Avellone's style in Kingmaker (and, funny enough, his companion is not one of them). So either the other writers are fans of his work or he had more input than advertised. Or both.
(examples: HATEOT and especially the companion scenes there, Nyrissa's dream also looks like an Avellonian idea, and all the companions are kinda Torment-y. I am stating an opinion here, of course, I do not know the facts).

 

[Joseph Stalin]

So has Avellone been expunged from the industry entirely?

Still working with Owlcat on Pathfinder: WotR. Other than that, he's laying low.

My understanding is that he also left the development of Wrath of the Righteous.

Good. One less exposition-dump heavy, super special NPC character.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Owlcat knows their core audience

explains a lot about the octavia romance

Eh... quite a bit men, especially young ones, would want to romance a slut, at least for some time, seeing her as an opportunity to taste every flavour of sex possible. Not to MARRY her, of course, that's when the proper young lasses come in.

 

[santino27]

It's not like Avellone was Owlcat's lead writer. He wrote one companion, did some editing and called it a day.
His job was likely done even before the controversy.

As I understand it, he also did a polish pass on a lot of their writing in P:KM, which would be difficult for him to have already completed for WoTR with it still in alpha.

It's not like Avellone was Owlcat's lead writer. He wrote one companion, did some editing and called it a day.
His job was likely done even before the controversy.

There is a lot that reminds of Avellone's style in Kingmaker (and, funny enough, his companion is not one of them).

I thought Nok-Nok was pretty recognizably MCA. Subversion of racial expectation, sly humor, and depth if you dug for it, especially compared to a lot of the other companions' non-quest-centric dialogue when spoken to in the city/towns.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So has Avellone been expunged from the industry entirely?

Still working with Owlcat on Pathfinder: WotR. Other than that, he's laying low.

My understanding is that he also left the development of Wrath of the Righteous.

Good. One less exposition-dump heavy, super special NPC character.

Nok-nok was one of the better written kingmaker characters.
He's a hero.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

So has Avellone been expunged from the industry entirely?

Still working with Owlcat on Pathfinder: WotR. Other than that, he's laying low.

My understanding is that he also left the development of Wrath of the Righteous.

Good. One less exposition-dump heavy, super special NPC character.

Nok-nok was one of the better written kingmaker characters.
He's a hero.

Wow... you immediately knew who I was talking about just by the description. And I didn't even drop the game title. Guess I'm right.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So has Avellone been expunged from the industry entirely?

Still working with Owlcat on Pathfinder: WotR. Other than that, he's laying low.

My understanding is that he also left the development of Wrath of the Righteous.

Good. One less exposition-dump heavy, super special NPC character.

Nok-nok was one of the better written kingmaker characters.
He's a hero.

Wow... you immediately knew who I was talking about just by the description. And I didn't even drop the game title. Guess I'm right.

It's the only character written by Avellone afaik.
And he's not an "exposition-dump", he actually makes fun of those characters.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

So has Avellone been expunged from the industry entirely?

Still working with Owlcat on Pathfinder: WotR. Other than that, he's laying low.

My understanding is that he also left the development of Wrath of the Righteous.

Good. One less exposition-dump heavy, super special NPC character.

Nok-nok was one of the better written kingmaker characters.
He's a hero.

Wow... you immediately knew who I was talking about just by the description. And I didn't even drop the game title. Guess I'm right.

It's the only character written by Avellone afaik.
And he's not an "exposition-dump", he actually makes fun of those characters.

Tell that to Kreia.

 

[Harthwain]

And he's not an "exposition-dump", he actually makes fun of those characters.

Joke is on him. He uses way too many words.

 

[Avarize]

So has Avellone been expunged from the industry entirely?

Still working with Owlcat on Pathfinder: WotR. Other than that, he's laying low.

My understanding is that he also left the development of Wrath of the Righteous.

Good. One less exposition-dump heavy, super special NPC character.

Nok-nok was one of the better written kingmaker characters.
He's a hero.

Wow... you immediately knew who I was talking about just by the description. And I didn't even drop the game title. Guess I'm right.

The topic was Pathfinder companions and Chris Avellone. He deduced you meant the only Pathfinder companion Avellone wrote. Miraculous.

 

[Trashos]

I thought Nok-Nok was pretty recognizably MCA. Subversion of racial expectation, sly humor, and depth if you dug for it, especially compared to a lot of the other companions' non-quest-centric dialogue when spoken to in the city/towns.

Nok-nok was one of the better written kingmaker characters.
He's a hero.

I like Nok-Nok, and, I can see that he has depth under the humor and his goblin ways. So in this sense he reminds me of Old World Blues a bit (humor on the surface, dark underneath). But Old World Blues is not what we usually expect from MCA, is it?

(With very few exceptions, I liked almost all the Kingmaker companions. From very good to awesome most of them, arguably unprecedented character development for a videogame.)

 

[Roguey]

Eh... quite a bit men, especially young ones, would want to romance a slut, at least for some time, seeing her as an opportunity to taste every flavour of sex possible. Not to MARRY her, of course, that's when the proper young lasses come in.

Thotavia's best ending is when the PC gets her to embrace monogamy, dump the orc, and become a proper queen. The power fantasy of turning a ho into a housewife.

 

[ArchAngel]

I heard MCA is going around door to door telling people to vote for Trump so he stops the crazy woke people that got him fired.

 

[Avarize]

Eh... quite a bit men, especially young ones, would want to romance a slut, at least for some time, seeing her as an opportunity to taste every flavour of sex possible. Not to MARRY her, of course, that's when the proper young lasses come in.

Thotavia's best ending is when the PC gets her to embrace monogamy, dump the orc, and become a proper queen. The power fantasy of turning a ho into a housewife.

Sounds like I shouldn't just ignore her on my next playthrough like I've done before.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Eh... quite a bit men, especially young ones, would want to romance a slut, at least for some time, seeing her as an opportunity to taste every flavour of sex possible. Not to MARRY her, of course, that's when the proper young lasses come in.

Thotavia's best ending is when the PC gets her to embrace monogamy, dump the orc, and become a proper queen. The power fantasy of turning a ho into a housewife.

Sounds like I shouldn't just ignore her on my next playthrough like I've done before.

I still wish they would've added an option to just have a straight-up harem.

 

[mondblut]

I hope he's enjoying some peace and quiet.

 

[Desiderius]

Eh... quite a bit men, especially young ones, would want to romance a slut, at least for some time, seeing her as an opportunity to taste every flavour of sex possible. Not to MARRY her, of course, that's when the proper young lasses come in.

Thotavia's best ending is when the PC gets her to embrace monogamy, dump the orc, and become a proper queen. The power fantasy of turning a ho into a housewife.

Sounds like I shouldn't just ignore her on my next playthrough like I've done before.

I still wish they would've added an option to just have a straight-up harem.

Added?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Eh... quite a bit men, especially young ones, would want to romance a slut, at least for some time, seeing her as an opportunity to taste every flavour of sex possible. Not to MARRY her, of course, that's when the proper young lasses come in.

Thotavia's best ending is when the PC gets her to embrace monogamy, dump the orc, and become a proper queen. The power fantasy of turning a ho into a housewife.

Sounds like I shouldn't just ignore her on my next playthrough like I've done before.

I still wish they would've added an option to just have a straight-up harem.

Added?

Two tiefling sisters do not equate a harem.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

would it be considered a threesome?

 

[Ol' Willy]

Harem is a kebab thing. Fuck off with this shit

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Harem is a kebab thing. Fuck off with this shit

Tell that to Mongolians. Or Israelites. Or Egyptians. Or Sumerians.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Harem is a kebab thing. Fuck off with this shit

Tell that to Mongolians. Or Israelites. Or Egyptians. Or Sumerians.

Or pre-Christian Rus'.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Or pre-Christian Rus'.

Mostly Christian historical revisionism. Knyaz's often had several wives, but - quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi