Gothic Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos mod for Gothic 2

[Tygrende]

IIRC the only gargoyles are in Vardhal

Yeah that's what I assumed since I haven't seen any yet. Question is, does anyone sell the hearts and/or can you loot some instead of taking them from corpses? If not I will spend that 1 LP for taking hearts but dammit I was this close to not needing to.

I'd say just spend the bloody 1 lp.

Next round I'm taking EVERY hunt skill immediately. To the point I'm even going to get out of chapter one as fast as possible so I can get the stuff from the city and Wolf's Den (which requires a trip to the city for the beer) ASAP. Even stuff that seems useless like bloodfly stingers and mandibles can get you free stat points later on.

Besides, given how many permanent stat potions/books are in this game, anything that can generate a profit is good. Well, except maybe pickpocket. I'm kinda on the fence on that one.

I've seen people say pickpocketing is not worth it and I have to disagree, level 2 is a no-brainer unless you are playing pure mage with zero investment in DEX/STR. Investing just 10 LP into it is enough to steal the key for the Araxos warehouse, there's +3 STR and +3 DEX food inside. Even one of those foods more than makes up for the cost. You are going to reach 4 LP cost for sure in which case you get 12 LP worth of your primary stat. If you reach 5 LP cost which is likely, that's 15 LP worth. If you're playing a DEX/STR hybrid the net benefit is even greater.

It also easily pays for itself - you get the 1st level for free from a book while the other cost me 500 gold. I had to learn from the prostitute at the pirate camp, I think there may have been a cheaper trainer somewhere like Ivy but I picked it too late. I easily earned over 1000 give or take, probably more, not counting various items that I got in addition to just gold like pots etc. So in the end I earned 5 LP and some pocket change (pun very much intended).

 

[Mauman]

Yeah that's what I assumed since I haven't seen any yet. Question is, does anyone sell the hearts and/or can you loot some instead of taking them from corpses? If not I will spend that 1 LP for taking hearts but dammit I was this close to not needing to.


I've seen people say pickpocketing is not worth it and I have to disagree, level 2 is a no-brainer unless you are playing pure mage with zero investment in DEX/STR. Investing just 10 LP into it is enough to steal the key for the Araxos warehouse, there's +3 STR and +3 DEX food inside. Even one of those foods more than makes up for the cost. You are going to reach 4 LP cost for sure in which case you get 12 LP worth of your primary stat. If you reach 5 LP cost which is likely, that's 15 LP worth. If you're playing a DEX/STR hybrid the net benefit is even greater.

It also easily pays for itself - you get the 1st level for free from a book while the other cost me 500 gold. I had to learn from the prostitute at the pirate camp, I think there may have been a cheaper trainer somewhere like Ivy but I picked it too late. I easily earned over 1000 give or take, probably more, not counting various items that I got in addition to just gold like pots etc. So in the end I earned 5 LP and some pocket change (pun very much intended).

Ah....that makes sense. I never found the key. Who has it?

edit - oh, I have it. Where is the warehouse?

 

[Tygrende]

I never found the key. Who has it?

The guild's armorer.

edit - it has 2 entrances, one in the main building and one outside near two travelling merchants.

 

[Mauman]

The guild's armorer.

edit - it has 2 entrances, one in the main building and one outside near two travelling merchants.

Ah thanks, I went Militia so I failed to properly look around there.

Anyways, I still stand by my stance on hunting skills. In NOTR hunting skills were borderline useless, but considering just how much there is to use on money just about anything that can generate income is welcome this time around.

 

[Steezus]

Any hints where I can use the sword/key I got from the guy collecting old coins in the city?

 

[Alphons]

I've seen people say pickpocketing is not worth it and I have to disagree, level 2 is a no-brainer unless you are playing pure mage with zero investment in DEX/STR. Investing just 10 LP into it is enough to steal the key for the Araxos warehouse, there's +3 STR and +3 DEX food inside. Even one of those foods more than makes up for the cost. You are going to reach 4 LP cost for sure in which case you get 12 LP worth of your primary stat. If you reach 5 LP cost which is likely, that's 15 LP worth. If you're playing a DEX/STR hybrid the net benefit is even greater.

Martha also has an entire pot of her stew (Master Pickpocket) which gives 3 STR.

Any hints where I can use the sword/key I got from the guy collecting old coins in the city?

South Swamp, location on map in the spoiler.

Spoiler

 

[Mauman]

I've seen people say pickpocketing is not worth it and I have to disagree, level 2 is a no-brainer unless you are playing pure mage with zero investment in DEX/STR. Investing just 10 LP into it is enough to steal the key for the Araxos warehouse, there's +3 STR and +3 DEX food inside. Even one of those foods more than makes up for the cost. You are going to reach 4 LP cost for sure in which case you get 12 LP worth of your primary stat. If you reach 5 LP cost which is likely, that's 15 LP worth. If you're playing a DEX/STR hybrid the net benefit is even greater.

Martha also has an entire pot of her stew (Master Pickpocket) which gives 3 STR.

That's....almost worth it. I wouldn't quite get an lp return on that, but it might be enough to warrant getting the skill anyways.

Also, I just ran into some weird guy outside of Sailor's haven....

Spoiler

Did I just get NPC quizzed by Nameless?!

 

[Tacgnol]

I'm pretty sure I managed to get a couple of other stat enhancers with master pickpocket.

It's borderline, but I suspect the LP cost is just about justified overall.

 

[Mauman]

Aw crap....I locked myself out of pickpocket master.

Borr won't teach militia and

Spoiler

Ivy is probably NOT my ally at this point

 

[agris]

Does anyone know if gargoyle hearts can be bought/found anywhere? I shamelessly looked up that the best bow requires a few to make and I have learned zero trophy skills beyond basic skinning. I went through the entire game by buying/finding animals parts for my crafts and I will be damned if I spend even 1 LP on it this late.

I think Gris, on the first floor of the Araxos guild building that houses Lorenzo, sells them.

 

[Mauman]

Does anyone know if gargoyle hearts can be bought/found anywhere? I shamelessly looked up that the best bow requires a few to make and I have learned zero trophy skills beyond basic skinning. I went through the entire game by buying/finding animals parts for my crafts and I will be damned if I spend even 1 LP on it this late.

I think Gris, on the first floor of the Araxos guild building that houses Lorenzo, sells them.

I decided to check since I was right there raiding the warehouse when I saw this post.

No, he doesn't.

 

[agris]

Damn. He has everything else esoteric.

 

[Tygrende]

That's....almost worth it. I wouldn't quite get an lp return on that, but it might be enough to warrant getting the skill anyways.

It's 3 STR for 10 LP, that's definitely worth it if you're an STR build. Not really otherwise.

 

[Danikas]

It's 3 STR for 10 LP, that's definitely worth it if you're an STR build. Not really otherwise.

There is more permament bonus stuff you can steal from people wih master pickpocket.

 

[Tygrende]

It's 3 STR for 10 LP, that's definitely worth it if you're an STR build. Not really otherwise.

There is more permament bonus stuff you can steal from people wih master pickpocket.

I think you can steal a +3 HP wine from Ernesto but am not aware of anything else.

 

[Mauman]

So...is the Usurer guys Adi, Ignus, Makot, and Reg a reference to something? Or are they original?

Spoiler

I let them live. They were pretty cool and gave me an elixir of life for a measely 100 gp. That and they made me laugh a little.

 

[Tygrende]

So...is the Usurer guys Adi, Ignus, Makot, and Reg a reference to something? Or are they original?

Spoiler

I let them live. They were pretty cool and gave me an elixir of life for a measely 100 gp. That and they made me laugh a little.

Pretty sure it's a very loose reference to penguins of madagascar.

 

[Mauman]

Found an infinite xp exploit. Well, near infinite as it requires a tiny bit of gold.

minor spoilers so I'll tag it just in case.

Spoiler

So Ingolf, the Mage in the Water Monestary who sells you stuff (and shrunk you the rat bastard ) has an infinite supply of blank spell runes due to the fact he interacts with the rune maker. Every time he uses it he gains a new one in his inventory if he has none (actually, he gets two I don't know why). These can then be traded into the City water mages for 250 xp a pop.

The runes themselves cost a laughable 50 gp per item. Net cost of 45 as you get 5 papers you can just sell right back if you want.

Only problem is the mage takes ALL of the runes of the same type. Normally this isn't an issue as you just drop the extras and give them one at a time. Blank runes are stackable so you'll have to put the extras in a nearby container. The nearby bookcase works well for this.

Honestly, it's not really worth it. By this point you should be God amongst mortals, and it's a bit tedious. But it's there if you're so inclined :D

 

[Alphons]

Since we're talking about exploits.

Archolos has several characters buying certain items for premium price, but only a set amount of them. If you give them more than they want they pay you first, but then script kicks in and they give you back items you sold to them and take away the gold they gave you.

I discovered this exploit with Vicente (found a note saying that he'll buy wings), and just sold him around 200 wings (he needs 20). You can also duel him. After beating him I found all gold he took from me (around 3k), but also wings he gave back (I think script adds them to NPCs inventory, but doesn't remove them later).

There's 1 problem. So far only Vicente is the only character that buys items for premium price and can be beaten. Everyone else is invulnerable.

 

[Mauman]

Since we're talking about exploits.

Archolos has several characters buying certain items for premium price, but only a set amount of them. If you give them more than they want they pay you first, but then script kicks in and they give you back items you sold to them and take away the gold they gave you.

I discovered this exploit with Vicente (found a note saying that he'll buy wings), and just sold him around 200 wings (he needs 20). You can also duel him. After beating him I found all gold he took from me (around 3k), but also wings he gave back (I think script adds them to NPCs inventory, but doesn't remove them later).

There's 1 problem. So far only Vicente is the only character that buys items for premium price and can be beaten. Everyone else is invulnerable.

Yeah, I found that one too when I beat Vicente up for the pre-tournament quest (which is why he's not invulnerable). I think it's a one time deal though.

 

[Zariusz]

 

[Mauman]

HAHA!!

I got my Stew. Oh yeah, and master pickpocketing.

Spoiler

Left the militia for the Ring of Water. Borr isn't so picky now.

I was rather touched (and impressed with the devs for taking things into account) when Oklav came up and cheerfully said hi, asked how I was doing now that I wasn't in the guard, and that the guard missed me

 

[Digital Goat]

Found an infinite xp exploit. Well, near infinite as it requires a tiny bit of gold.

minor spoilers so I'll tag it just in case.

Spoiler

So Ingolf, the Mage in the Water Monestary who sells you stuff (and shrunk you the rat bastard ) has an infinite supply of blank spell runes due to the fact he interacts with the rune maker. Every time he uses it he gains a new one in his inventory if he has none (actually, he gets two I don't know why). These can then be traded into the City water mages for 250 xp a pop.

The runes themselves cost a laughable 50 gp per item. Net cost of 45 as you get 5 papers you can just sell right back if you want.

Only problem is the mage takes ALL of the runes of the same type. Normally this isn't an issue as you just drop the extras and give them one at a time. Blank runes are stackable so you'll have to put the extras in a nearby container. The nearby bookcase works well for this.

Honestly, it's not really worth it. By this point you should be God amongst mortals, and it's a bit tedious. But it's there if you're so inclined :D

There is another one and much earlier:

Spoiler

Inside water mage's temple in town you can find one mage, who's constantly operating that rune device, kick his butt and loot 2 blank runes every time. Another mage – one who gives quest to gather 8 pearls – becomes agressive, so you need kick his butt too. Repeat as many times as you like

Also found infinite strength exploit, much more tedious though:

Spoiler

Ingor in MercGuild smithy is constantly devouring various food, including apples, so every time he grabs another one out of nowhere it appears in his inventory and can be bought for 5 gp

 

[Mauman]

Found an infinite xp exploit. Well, near infinite as it requires a tiny bit of gold.

minor spoilers so I'll tag it just in case.

Spoiler

So Ingolf, the Mage in the Water Monestary who sells you stuff (and shrunk you the rat bastard ) has an infinite supply of blank spell runes due to the fact he interacts with the rune maker. Every time he uses it he gains a new one in his inventory if he has none (actually, he gets two I don't know why). These can then be traded into the City water mages for 250 xp a pop.

The runes themselves cost a laughable 50 gp per item. Net cost of 45 as you get 5 papers you can just sell right back if you want.

Only problem is the mage takes ALL of the runes of the same type. Normally this isn't an issue as you just drop the extras and give them one at a time. Blank runes are stackable so you'll have to put the extras in a nearby container. The nearby bookcase works well for this.

Honestly, it's not really worth it. By this point you should be God amongst mortals, and it's a bit tedious. But it's there if you're so inclined :D

There is another one and much earlier:

Spoiler

Inside water mage's temple in town you can find one mage, who's constantly operating that rune device, kick his butt and loot 2 blank runes every time. Another mage – one who gives quest to gather 8 pearls – becomes agressive, so you need kick his butt too. Repeat as many times as you like

Also found infinite strength exploit, much more tedious though:

Spoiler

Ingor in MercGuild smithy is constantly devouring various food, including apples, so every time he grabs another one out of nowhere it appears in his inventory and can be bought for 5 gp

Hehe....I noticed the water mage in town doing that, but I figured that would be a good way to get super duper fined. Do you not get fined for thrashing the water mages? If not that's hilarious.

As for Ingor, I'll have to remember that when I play my next character (went militia this time). I won't farm him or anything, but I'll stop by and grab an apple whenever I'm in the area

As an aside, I'm really enjoying the expedition. It's flavorful and interesting.

 

[Tygrende]

I figured that would be a good way to get super duper fined.

Fines cap at 1000 gold anyways. That and they basically do not matter in CoM.