Civilization VI - Now available, so you can sink all your free time into it

[Rahdulan]

A white Swedish leader? How insensitive of them.

 

[Luzur]

Luzur we need your professional opinion on Kristina being the chosen leader of Sweden.

*spits* Kristina was a sad catholic tool, a real shame being the daughter of the hero and all. but eh, women.

So there is only one female leader? no choice between male/female?

 

[Pope Amole II]

So there is only one female leader? no choice between male/female?

They might introduce a second leader in DLC. But they probably won't so yeah, she's the only choice.

 

[barker_s]

After a huge letdown that was Rise and Fall, this actually gives me some good vibes. I especially like the warmonger penalty system overhaul - should've been like that from the beginning.

 

[Delterius]

Kristina was a catholic

deus vult

 

[Fedora Master]

Prediction: The new diplo stuff won't work properly.

 

[Agame]

Holy Roman Empire - Civilization 6 is $60 on iPhone

Now we know why they designed civ 6 with mobile phone graphics.

I hope civ 7 is mobile micro transaction pay to win. This series is dead until they get rid of 1upt. May as well go all in on the casual mouth breathing market.

 

[Filthy Sauce]

Global warming? Teddy Roosevelt and Montezuma living in the same timeline is more believable. Firaxis is pushing too much into the fantasy realm.

 

[LESS T_T]

 

[Space Satan]

Even now CivVI loses to such crap as CivV. Marvellous

 

[fantadomat]

They put more effort in to making this plastic trailers than in to the game. Anyway,all of their games after Civ3 are shit.

In all seriousness it could be alpha century 2.

They already made Alpha Centauri 2, it was called Beyond Earth. It was forgotten about in 3 months.

Wasn't that an expansion or something similar? A civ 5 with a new paint?

 

[Hellraiser]

Firaxis is really trying hard to run the franchise to the ground with virtue signalling instead of improving the gameplay it seems. Also it appears they are still not done scraping the bottom of the barrel for female leaders. A pity they did not add Myanmar with Aung San Suu Kyi before she stopped being the poster child fighting for freedom. Imagine the shitstorm that would have happened.



The future era with new governments and the canals/tunnels are the only additions that are actual improvements to the series it seems.

 

[Hellraiser]

Wasn't that an expansion or something similar? A civ 5 with a new paint?

If only it was Civ V with a new paint job, the game was worse than Civ V in part because they gutted/dumbed down the Civ V mechanics that were good (city states, ideologies/culture tree, religion). The factions/sponsor were extremely bland and seemed to have been designed with diversity in mind first and gameplay mechanics+storytelling later. Unit variety sucked (1 air unit, no submarines in vanilla), unit customization was too basic and forced you to pick permanent perks (no unit designer), no unit promotions available other than +strength. The wonders which were already bland and unimpressive in vanilla got nerfed in the expansion or some later patch into near uselessness in most cases, mediocre attempts at humour in tech/affinity quotes in addition to poor writing. The affinity system wasn't that much of a bad concept but it could have used some serious reworking and it reeked of cliched soft science fiction, especially considering some of the unit design.

In any case that was standalone and it seems that it was either practically an official TC mod made by a B team to have them do something before Civ VI/XCOM 2 production ramped up or Firaxis declined that much.

The expansion improved it somewhat but even with it it is still inferior to Civ V and it did manage to make some things worse (wonders).

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

this series is dead until they get rid of 1upt.

i'm fine with the concept of 1upt and hp system, it feels nice to move forward a tank followed by shooters and stuff like this. the only real problem is that the computer can't even. it just can't even. it either stares at you while you crush it effortlessly or goes on the offence spearheading with a fragile shooter followed by another shooter and then by a tank.
but most of the times it declares war for no reason, sits on its thumb for as long as it can and then asks for forgiveness.
the issue is not the system, it is the programmers behind it.

 

[flyingjohn]

this series is dead until they get rid of 1upt.

i'm fine with the concept of 1upt and hp system, it feels nice to move forward a tank followed by shooters and stuff like this. the only real problem is that the computer can't even. it just can't even. it either stares at you while you crush it effortlessly or goes on the offence spearheading with a fragile shooter followed by another shooter and then by a tank.
but most of the times it declares war for no reason, sits on its thumb for as long as it can and then asks for forgiveness.
the issue is not the system, it is the programmers behind it.

Technically it is only one guy and this guy is a semi decent star craft player according to rumors.
How does that work with 4x games? Well you can see the results yourself.

 

[Jimmious]

All good and dandy but if they don't fucking dedicate a serious amount of time and effort into the AI there is simply no point. 4353245345 things to do that the AI barely follows

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

No, the issue is that 1upt requires better AI that can be reasonably expected from a game where combat is only small part of gameplay. If a fight involves a lot of units it can have more variables than chess.

 

[Agame]

this series is dead until they get rid of 1upt.

i'm fine with the concept of 1upt and hp system, it feels nice to move forward a tank followed by shooters and stuff like this. the only real problem is that the computer can't even. it just can't even. it either stares at you while you crush it effortlessly or goes on the offence spearheading with a fragile shooter followed by another shooter and then by a tank.
but most of the times it declares war for no reason, sits on its thumb for as long as it can and then asks for forgiveness.
the issue is not the system, it is the programmers behind it.

I agree, its a decent system, possibly a lot of fun in multiplayer, but the only thing I care about in a Civ game is a challenging AI. And with 1upt the AI is utterly useless. Playing on highest difficulties is just a farce with how easy it is to abuse. And it will never be fixed as they will never assign enough recources and manpower to make a competent AI that can deal with all the parameters of 1upt.

*Seems I got ninja'ed, so what those guys above me said.

 

[Hellraiser]

They should just cap stack size by tech, unit experience and terrain, either with a hard cap or a soft cap paradox style via attrition with diminishing returns. That would solve the doom stack idiocy that plagued Civ IV.

Also all siege units should deal collateral damage to stacks and just like in SMAC winning a melee fight against a unit in a stack should cause some collateral damage. Smaller since unlike SMAC battles are not to the death.

Civ V AI is ridiculously easy to outplay with chokepoints, especially ones near the coast.

 

[GrainWetski]

It was much funnier when they took a dump on others with their retarded female leaders

Modern Firaxis is a fucking plague.

 

[Fedora Master]

Wasn't that an expansion or something similar? A civ 5 with a new paint?

If only it was Civ V with a new paint job, the game was worse than Civ V in part because they gutted/dumbed down the Civ V mechanics that were good (city states, ideologies/culture tree, religion). The factions/sponsor were extremely bland and seemed to have been designed with diversity in mind first and gameplay mechanics+storytelling later. Unit variety sucked (1 air unit, no submarines in vanilla), unit customization was too basic and forced you to pick permanent perks (no unit designer), no unit promotions available other than +strength. The wonders which were already bland and unimpressive in vanilla got nerfed in the expansion or some later patch into near uselessness in most cases, mediocre attempts at humour in tech/affinity quotes in addition to poor writing. The affinity system wasn't that much of a bad concept but it could have used some serious reworking and it reeked of cliched soft science fiction, especially considering some of the unit design.

In any case that was standalone and it seems that it was either practically an official TC mod made by a B team to have them do something before Civ VI/XCOM 2 production ramped up or Firaxis declined that much.

The expansion improved it somewhat but even with it it is still inferior to Civ V and it did manage to make some things worse (wonders).

The best thing to come out of Beyond Earf was the Space Pope mod:

 

[Infinitron]

 

[cvv]

Another straight white cis heteronormative civ. Shame on Firaxis, it's 2018.

 

[Xzylvador]

The leader is two weeks shaving away from looking like Conchita Wurst, people!
How LGBT-friendly does a game have to get to please the 'dex?!

 

[thesheeep]

The leader is two weeks shaving away from looking like Conchita Wurst, people!
How LGBT-friendly does a game have to get to please the 'dex?!

I don't think it is about being pleasing.
More about the juicy, sweet butthurt it generates in homophobes and other retards. That alone is almost worth all the nonsense.