I think Ontopoly would disagree with you.I don't think anyone really hates Larian. They're just underwhelming. The gameplay's been trash in D:OS 2, and their writing style's goddamn cringy.
What... are you talking about?The reason public opinion has shifted lately is simply because more people have finished their trash lately, so they are not delusional anymore. In 2016 or 2017 not even 5% had completed DOS but 99% said it was the best RPG of all time, but then some of those imbeciles actually played the game they praised and realised it was not that good.
I've always liked Larian, ever since I played Divine Divinity.
I even went out of my way to buy the boxset they released that included all their games and complete soundtracks around the Original Sin announcement.
It seems I also am in the minority that didn't enjoy OS much but absolutely loved OS2.
The only one of their games I haven't played is Commander because I don't really care for that kind of games.
I don't think anyone really hates Larian. They're just underwhelming. The gameplay's been trash in D:OS 2, and their writing style's goddamn cringy.
Look everybody. All I'm saying is this game has no right being called bg3. I'm sure most of you more reasonable people here can agree with that. It is a crime against art to call this game bg3 when it makes no effort to relate to the originals in it's mechanics. If they called it something else everything would be fine. I still wouldn't play the game because larian makes horrible games but it would be fine, and I would have no issues. There are worse crimes than making a horrible game, such as creating a sequel using the name that otherwise wouldn't even qualify as a spiritual successor. Or even part of the same sub-genre. Larian is a company that is willing to do anything they want under the leadership of swen and the consumers and fans of art should hold them accountable.
Did you guys like DOS1? DOS2? I didn't. So why would you think this game would be any different. It's still the same people making the game. The only difference is Mike Mearl's is an accomplice in this stain on the art piece that is BG. Same people are making this game. maybe they have a better system to work with now, but that won't make that much of a difference. The same people behind the decisions that made DOS2 so horrible are the same people behind the decisions of this game. Sure they can't make horrible armor systems but there's still plenty. Sure they changed the dialogue after everyone told them it was a stupid decision, but the people who thought it was a good decision in the first place are still there making more decisions. There will be plenty of horrible decisions they will make that the consumers won't see. Who will hold them accountable then? The consumers have had to fix some decisions already, but who will fix the problems in act 2? act 3? act 4? Larian will continue to hurt the industry and the cultists will remain anyways because they think it's cute when he walks around in suits of armors and changes a beloved series to something that doesn't resemble the original product.
It wasn't right when Beamdog did it and it isn't right now. At least beamdog tried to honour the series, although they were way too incompetent to do so. When will studios learn their place and realize they they should stay in their own lane. The only reason Swen is in the forgotten realms is because he was too incompetent to make his own universe good. Can you honestly tell me that's someone you would trust to make a beloved series?
larian and swen.What's not to like?
These are the type of people larian caters to. Degenerates and dumbfucks. It's just unfortunate they dragged a good series into the middle of it. BG series is simply a tool for them to use and abuse.
It's a lot more than that. Basically everyone is mad at larian because all of their previous games have sucked and they feel that larian does not deserve the honour or privilege of touching anything to do with the great Baldurs Gate series. They made a game and called it baldurs gate 3 even though it has nothing to do with the series. Everything is copied from dos2 rather than BG 1 or 2. Every time there is a design philosophy difference between dos2 and BG series, it is almost guaranteed that they take the dos2 route. They have no reason to call this game baldurs gate 3, and by even suggesting that it's similar to the BG series in any way is a disgrace against the gaming industry. They used the name but refuse to acknowledge the originals otherwise. That's just a couple of reasons why everybody hates the game. swen is a thief.
Because swen is incompetent.
Perfect example. Basically "high level is bad but Larian can pull it off because they are so great and they can over come the flaws of high level dnd"
Larian cultists are predictable. I called it. Everyone's probably fine with it because Larian did it and can do no wrong in their eyes
Because they realized that it sucked. Passionate people don't spend some 15 years making their own universe only to drop it the second someone offers them a different one. Swen practically begged them for the chance to work on bg3 and Mike mearls was stupid enough to let him. Imagine developing a world for that long and then dropping it. If swen can't even maintain his own world and make it something he's proud and passionate about, why would you trust him with a different one. Imagine dropping something you've been working on for that long. Swen is spineless and has zero passion. He has no faith in his own product, yet his cultists will defend it until the end of time.
The cult leader is a passionless hack and the Larian cultists are soulless shills who get mad and try to silence you everytime you bring up one of swen led larians many faults. They are incompetent and shouldn't work on anything. They definitely shouldn't be working on bg. Can you honestly tell me you think any Larian game is great? Or even playable?
You might want to rethink your statement.There's no way to go further down but Baldurs Gate 3 will not just bring itself and future games down, it will retroactively bring down all of Baldurs Gate just by association. larian is a plague and will ruin everything that comes in contact with anything that it comes into contact with. Imagine trying to recommend the Baldurs Gate series to your random co worker and he replies with "Yeah, I love larian games. baldurs gate 3 is amazing." Hearing that would break my heart, and I would lack the constitution to guide this random co worker into actual good RPGs.
It's ok for diablo to be shallow. Game is about going fast and exploding things. Look at Path of Exile, it's exactly the same.
Problem with dos is that it's shallowness is hiding behind an extremely clunky system.
Like trying to drive a truck by using bridles.
I mildly disliked them on the basis of D:OS1 and (especially) 2, but that dislike has turned into outright loathing now that they've got their grubby paws on the BG franchise, which came to a definite end in 2001 and should not have to suffer anyone's necromantic greed, least of all Larian's.
Hmmm i prefer the older larian games,that said i don't hate them really. If they find themself a good writer and maybe start a new fantasy world or clean the lore of that one(because it is nonsensical,too much and kind off retarded),they could end up making a good game. Their level design,TB system and inventory are pretty good. But that writing really gives a low kick to the whole game.Reading the Codex five years ago after the release of the first Divinity: Original Sin, one could get the impression that Larian were the new perfect RPG developer who could do no wrong, showing Obsidian and inXile how it's done. That's clearly not the case anymore. Let's try to find out to what extent Codex opinions on Larian have actually changed.
Fuck yeah,mechanical cars,win7 and good rpgs!I don't really hate Larian. It's just that their games are not for me. It's like asking me to buy an electric car - when I'm happy with a mechanical diesel engine that I can repair and keep on the road myself. I like all the moving parts. Just telling me that "It's 2020 now and you have to move onto the next iteration retard!" isn't gonna change my mind.
So fuck offGreta!umm...Larian. But I assume they've got a ready and willing millenial client base just waiting for this game right?.
Because rtwp was always bad and going back to the source material aka tb is pure incline.Hmmm i prefer the older larian games,that said i don't hate them really. If they find themself a good writer and maybe start a new fantasy world or clean the lore of that one(because it is nonsensical,too much and kind off retarded),they could end up making a good game. Their level design,TB system and inventory are pretty good. But that writing really gives a low kick to the whole game.Reading the Codex five years ago after the release of the first Divinity: Original Sin, one could get the impression that Larian were the new perfect RPG developer who could do no wrong, showing Obsidian and inXile how it's done. That's clearly not the case anymore. Let's try to find out to what extent Codex opinions on Larian have actually changed.
This days is shit on larian because they decided to make a rtwp franchise in to a TB game,that is like making a beloved TB franchise in to a first person shooter with certain green interface. Sadly this days most of TB fans are petty little hypocrites.
nice job SwenBecause rtwp was always bad and going back to the source material aka tb is pure incline.
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