Codex was buck broken by gay bear. Ass all open, head empty.

[Mortmal]

I think BG3's main problem was its story being sabotaged by its design (or the other way around, however you like to look at it).
The initial motivation was "You have a bomb in your head! Hurry!" - but then, the game is designed in a way, that you can completely go off the rails and ignore everything. So the tension is entirely lost.
I think that story setup is not a good fit and - this is my little conspiracy theory - I feel like the writers realized that as well. That is why they introduced all kinds of retarding elements.
The remaining story then takes forever to go anywhere - and where it goes is not that interesting. This is the reason why I eventually quit after almost 50 hours (consider, you can easily read a 1000-page novel in that time - so I think it's fair to say that the story about a big meanie who sits in a tower is kinda spread thin over the playtime up to that point).
I will probably pick it up again and finish it, but it will be for the mechanics and encounters - which are pretty fine I think (and also the reason why I played for 50 hours, exploring most side content).

As for the OP's idea that classic RPGs were already ideologically aligned with what you see in BG3: Well, maybe, but they were still better executed in terms of writing.
Arcanum is actually a good example because its story setup is a better fit for a freedom-oriented design ("Here's a ring and a kooky prophecy, now do with that whatever you like").
Same with the original Fallout, where the "bomb" isn't ticking in your head but in the vault, and if you twiddle your thumbs and do nothing it punishes you for it. So the design actually aligns with the story. Which was not so well received, but at least it's coherent. Maybe that's the problem with BG3's writing. It wants to have its cake (the freedom to do anything, however long you like) and eat it too (the tension of a time bomb). At least as far as structural problems go.

Okay buddy boyo, we'll see how good your game is compared to BG3 or will it be another kickstarter flop?

It's very hard for him to sabotage the story when there's none, and there's no need to have much in a pure dungeon crawl. The fact alone that it has no woke elements will make people vote for it next year or the year after as Game of the Year then it will get at least second or third place as any codex darling. the gameplay in the demo, unimpressive to me( for one dev it is good work of course) is no better than 30 years old games and it's not innovating or bringing anything new but it will not be taken into account.

 

[NecroLord]

The fuck are you talking about, schizo?

 

[Shaki]

the gameplay in the demo, unimpressive to me( for one dev it is good work of course) is no better than 30 years old games and it's not innovating or bringing anything new but it will not be taken into account.

The gameplay looks fun, which already beats BG3.

 

[raeven]

The thesis was that Bg3 supposedly brought back TB games

Please quote the part of the OP where I say this. All I've said is that it made it evident that TB RPG can sell a lot, something not that many people were convinced even by 2012 or so where we can suspect Sword Coast Legends started development. From Swen himself we know that the reason why Hasbro gave them the license was that DOS2 sold a lot, so the perception of TB=bad sales lingered and most likely still does.

I'll remind you that you're 1200s(AD) disgusting bluehaired leftist el abomination and I'm 10k BC reactionary.

LMFAO what does this even mean

Your inability to comprehend this metaphor proves my point.

I comprehend the metaphor, I just have no idea what the hell a "10k BC reactionary" thinks about the world.

 

[NotSweeper]

I comprehend the metaphor, I just have no idea what the hell a "10k BC reactionary" thinks about the world.

 

[notpl]

It doesn't really seem like the codex hivemind is that broken up about it, since BG3 still placed second in the GOTY poll. Yeah it had slightly more reactionary 1/5 votes from people who didn't play it than is usual, but it's a small forum - if you only have a couple hundred active posters, 20 demented retards constitute a significant bloc.

I ask again, i did it in another thread. How many demented retards voted 5/5 for BG3? Without playing it, because they hoped for glorious butthurt or were doing so preemptively against the 1/5? Why you assume that only 1/5 are result of that and 5/5 not? What proof do you have?

Because I can look at any given thread - even ones that aren't about BG3, or even larian studios or d&d in general - and see these retards crowing about bear sex and whatever else. I don't see any rabid BG3 fans on the codex bringing it up in every single thread unprompted, except for Swen whose gimmick I think makes him somewhat of an outlier. Deranged lunatics are as all can see, I don't need scientific rigamarole to identify their behavior.

 

[Silverfish]

Well, if you've actually played the game you would know you're quite wrong

You should play the game with bestiality and then you'll see there's less bestiality than you think, although there's still some. Clearly we've got a Sterling-Cooper man here.

 

[Serus]

It doesn't really seem like the codex hivemind is that broken up about it, since BG3 still placed second in the GOTY poll. Yeah it had slightly more reactionary 1/5 votes from people who didn't play it than is usual, but it's a small forum - if you only have a couple hundred active posters, 20 demented retards constitute a significant bloc.

I ask again, i did it in another thread. How many demented retards voted 5/5 for BG3? Without playing it, because they hoped for glorious butthurt or were doing so preemptively against the 1/5? Why you assume that only 1/5 are result of that and 5/5 not? What proof do you have?

Because I can look at any given thread - even ones that aren't about BG3, or even larian studios or d&d in general - and see these retards crowing about bear sex and whatever else. I don't see any rabid BG3 fans on the codex bringing it up in every single thread unprompted, except for Swen whose gimmick I think makes him somewhat of an outlier. Deranged lunatics are as all can see, I don't need scientific rigamarole to identify their behavior.

This is scientifically called "observer bias". In fact it's a great exemple of one. But thank you, it at least cleared a few things for me.

In addition, as I said before somewhere else, the "bear sex" is really not that important in itself. It became more of a meme at this point.

 

[Swen]

It doesn't really seem like the codex hivemind is that broken up about it, since BG3 still placed second in the GOTY poll. Yeah it had slightly more reactionary 1/5 votes from people who didn't play it than is usual, but it's a small forum - if you only have a couple hundred active posters, 20 demented retards constitute a significant bloc.

I ask again, i did it in another thread. How many demented retards voted 5/5 for BG3? Without playing it, because they hoped for glorious butthurt or were doing so preemptively against the 1/5? Why you assume that only 1/5 are result of that and 5/5 not? What proof do you have?

Because I can look at any given thread - even ones that aren't about BG3, or even larian studios or d&d in general - and see these retards crowing about bear sex and whatever else. I don't see any rabid BG3 fans on the codex bringing it up in every single thread unprompted, except for Swen whose gimmick I think makes him somewhat of an outlier. Deranged lunatics are as all can see, I don't need scientific rigamarole to identify their behavior.

I never bring up the bear unless it's clear I'm dealing with codexers who have been so utterly mind fcked by the success of BG3... so 90% of the codex

 

[Serious_Business]

Moral support for the schizo. We're all delirious on this planet, man. It's not going to be alright

 

[Tyranicon]

Codexers: hates le popular thing

People who have supposedly been on this forum for years:

A reminder that codex opinion absolutely does not matter against widespread acclaim and financial success.

Also a reminder that codex opinion is considered prestigious partly because it does not bow to normie/pedestrian tastes.

 

[Lord of Riva]

Codexers: hates le popular thing

People who have supposedly been on this forum for years:

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A reminder that codex opinion absolutely does not matter against widespread acclaim and financial success.

Also a reminder that codex opinion is considered prestigious partly because it does not bow to normie/pedestrian tastes.

I wholeheartedly agree,

I'm sorry to say but even the retards here have normally a lot more in-depth knowledge about nearly all RPGs that exist, it would be an absolute shame if RPGCodex would not find it's own way of interpreting things.

That the 'dex came to a different conclusion does show that it's not beholden by mainstream opinion, which is a good thing. Even though everyone would have survived BG3 winning. Imagine the lack of Butthurt if it did, I would have just shrugged and done something else.

Nah, this is peak Codex and I am all here for it.

 

[Itoh]

So far I'm enjoying it. The maps are detailed and full of content for you to find, and more crucially, content to miss - you can easily skip out on a sidequest by failing a check or being rude to someone. It doesn't shove everything in your face, which is rare for AAA games nowadays. Even the much maligned refugee plotline doesn't demand a resolution - I just killed the druid chick and left for the underdark because I the mindlfayer thing is kinda interesting and the druid/goblin beef is not. Combat is solid - it's not the deepest system ever, but there are some nice environmental tricks you can pull off, enemy variety is genuinely impressive, and the encounters have more thought to them than the trash mobs that compelled me to quit Pillars of Eternity.

The gay stuff honestly isn't a big deal - don't have a taste for sodomy? Just turn your male party members down and they won't bug you about buggery ever again. The bear fucking thing is both hilarious and completely consistent with the WRPG tradition of letting you do weird shit like bone sheep or become a porn star. The writing is... not great, but aside from the refugee plotline I've found almost nothing political, and the quests offer you a fair amount of freedom in completing them. The setting sucks but I can't complain because if shitty settings were a deal breaker I wouldn't be playing something called Baldur's Gate.

You're free to love or hate it for whatever reasons you please, but if you think BG3 is "average", then I want to know what fucking world you live in where the average game looks and plays like this. I wish I lived in that world...

 

[Lhynn]

At first I thought it was a meme, but it truly seems like BG3 broke the codexs proverbial buck.

The sheer amount of coping, seething and dilating you faggots are going through makes Astarion look manly and masculine (Thats the faggot from BG3 that got fucked by the bear, for all you retards that call the game awful without even playing it).

You are gay, all your posts are gay.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

You are gay, all your posts are gay.

 

[Beans00]

Just going to throw this out there:

There is quite literally 0% chance BG3 will ever surpass skyrim in sales.

I have not played either game



Todd Howard wins again

 

[jaekl]

Waaaait a minute, so it's actually the people who didn't play the nominee and likely winner of every gayming award there is who are the gay ones?? Uh oh...

 

[std::namespace]

You are gay, all your posts are gay.

trap are not gay, never were!

 

[Silverfish]

you retards that call the game awful without even playing it

I can't help but think you're the kind of guy who told his buddies to watch 2 girls, 1 cup back in the day and secretly filmed their reactions.

 

[ColaWerewolf]

It's going to be a real Shakespearean moment when nerd indie devs start making their dream turn-based cRPG games thinking that BG3's success means that it's now acceptable to do so, only for the sales to be nonexistent, no coverage, lambasted by all normies, having to sell their mortgage, wives divorcing and taking every last penny plus the car.

All because they didn't realize that BG3 is popular with normies because of all the SEX, SEX, SEX and not at all because it's turn-based or an rpg.

 

[raeven]

It's going to be a real Shakespearean moment when nerd indie devs start making their dream turn-based cRPG games thinking that BG3's success means that it's now acceptable to do so, only for the sales to be nonexistent, no coverage, lambasted by all normies, having to sell their mortgage, wives divorcing and taking every last penny plus the car.

All because they didn't realize that BG3 is popular with normies because of all the SEX, SEX, SEX and not at all because it's turn-based or an rpg.

Meanwhile, Tyranicon :

Hold my beer.

 

[Tyranicon]

Meanwhile, Tyranicon :

Hold my beer.

My games are purely combat simulators. Even the sex. Especially the sex.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Meanwhile, Tyranicon :

Hold my beer.

My games are purely combat simulators. Even the sex. Especially the sex.

If you want to get huge in the industry, make a beastiality sex simulator but with voice acting and turn-based actions. That way all of those degenerates can claim they love the game based on those merits.

You're welcome, I'll take a measly 2% cut for the idea.

 

[agris]

It's decline because:

Good description, I wonder why the usual BG3 white knights don’t address all the meat you’ve thrown them. If you’re so wrong, it would be quite easy to demonstrate given your specificity.

Anyway, you should play Archaelund. It does your list of 1-5 very well, although if you’re big into cinematic presentation and “gripping story”, it’s not for you.

 

[Lhynn]

you retards that call the game awful without even playing it

I can't help but think you're the kind of guy who told his buddies to watch 2 girls, 1 cup back in the day and secretly filmed their reactions.

Whats that?