RTS Command & Conquer Remastered Collection from Petroglyph

[ArchAngel]

So people are going nuts and sighing "muh nostalgia" about a bloated cashgrab with updated art that doesn't have any of the gameplay improvements free fanmade OpenRA has. Literally all it has going for it is a remastered soundtrack and uncompressed videos. Good that I didn't preorder this 25gb thing.

Better graphics, better sound and music, better multiplayer. I haven't bought it yet, but it is pretty good deal to me.

Add to that:
- unit queues
- separate tabs for structures, infantry, vehicles, support powers.

Sure, no attack move, waypoints or rally flags, but the deal is still pretty damned sweet. As multiple people all over teh Internets already said, the Jukebox alone is worth the price.

I think lack of attack move or waypoints might be on purpose as it would change the game too much. Build queue already made macro much easier. Atm lack of other features let you outmicro and outmacro your enemies, SC1 style.
Also you can bring those back for SP with mods, but MP will stay about who has better micro and macro.

 

[Daedalos]

Not gonna lie, a remastered generals + zero hour would get my panties wet

 

[Feyd Rautha]

I really agree with him about the bad pathfinding that they didn't fix.

 

[ArchAngel]

I really agree with him about the bad pathfinding that they didn't fix.

They tried but it broke many campaign missions. Also it is part of the game, it would be like fixing pathfinding in BroodWar remaster.

 

[Morgoth]

I really agree with him about the bad pathfinding that they didn't fix.

It's C&C. Bad pathfinding shouldn't be treated as a bug, but as an additional layer of providing tantrum fits strategy.

 

[TemplarGR]

It makes me feel sad to say this, but this is nothing like as good as when I was a kid. Refunded already because I just can't see when I'll play it given limited game time with family stuff.

Music is great, definitely. But the AI is meme-worthy and it just doesn't feel good to play. For example deploying troops from an APC doesn't seem to work properly. I wish they'd remastered the gameplay a bit as well as the graphics, honestly.

It is nice to see not everyone here is a nostalgiafag retard. Yes, old games are barely as good as you people remember them when you played them 30 years ago.... Modern games are leaps and bounds better, and not just in graphics. Contrary to popular belief, games did become better, you just can't enjoy them like back when you were little innocent kids. Feelings are deceiving most people.

 

[TemplarGR]

Not gonna lie, a remastered generals + zero hour would get my panties wet

Literally the only quality C&C game. Not without faults but definitely awesome to play. US aircraft general forevah bitches.

 

[Deflowerer]

I think what I like about Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert is the games as an overall package. The individual parts are flawed, for sure (and were popamole even back in the day), but the sum of them adds up to great games imo.

And get the fuck out with your rose-tinted glass bullshit.

 

[fantadomat]

and were popamole even back in the day)

Origin of modern RTS is popamole......ok nigga.

 

[zerotol]

Not gonna lie, a remastered generals + zero hour would get my panties wet

Literally the only quality C&C game. Not without faults but definitely awesome to play. US aircraft general forevah bitches.

This dude with a mario avater is shitting on our childhood memories. Ban this dumbfuck

 

[baud]

Not gonna lie, a remastered generals + zero hour would get my panties wet

Literally the only quality C&C game. Not without faults but definitely awesome to play. US aircraft general forevah bitches.

This dude with a mario avater is shitting on our childhood memories. Ban this dumbfuck

Nah, dumbfucks bring enough comedic value that's they're worth keeping around

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

 

[Pegultagol]

I played through NOD Tiberian Dawn missions and working thru GDI right now, and yeah the AI hasn't been updated from what I can tell and it still causes some headaches.

At least in normal difficulty, you can easily cheese the AI by allowing it to lock unto a target and it will sink its teeth into it and almost never let go...so a flamer comes along, get a tank to make them lock unto it and put forward the infantry to finish him off. I think you can do this against any enemy.

The most egregious problem I observed so far is that if you have multiple refineries, harvesters might lock unto one particular refinery and not let loose its priority regardless of where the other harvester is doing. And it is not proximity based, so a harvester can 'put dibs' on it from across the map or even body of water and block the closer harvester access, making it idle full of tiberium.

The missions are a patchwork of physical chokepoints and scripted patterns (e.g. enemy heli reinforcements always land in the same place) so it sometimes more like a puzzle sequence inviting trial and error and save-scum. But they are pretty fun overall imo and at least they do a decent job of conveying clues.

 

[Storyfag]

So the more I play it, the more I come closer to fully understanding what happened that made EA give us this little gem.

EA was pulling a Hassan on us, and Jimtern went all Slavik on their arses.

 

[fantadomat]

I played for a few hours and the game is painful,haven't aged well. The pathfinding is retarded,the line of sight is too small and the nod's miniguners are more like knights lol,they have to be next to the target to be able to shoot. In most cases that just means getting squashed by a tank. Also the flamethrower guys are just retarded design,they just shoot flame and explode because they shoot it in their feet,thus triggering a chain reaction of exploding flamethrower guys blowing up and killing all you army. Also it is annoying how disc throwers are strong against infantry and have splash damage unlike the rocket launcher guys.

 

[Naraya]

Also the flamethrower guys are just retarded design,they just shoot flame and explode because they shoot it in their feet,thus triggering a chain reaction of exploding flamethrower guys blowing up and killing all you army.

The joke's on you, GDI for life!

 

[Darth Roxor]

I played for a few hours and the game is painful,haven't aged well. The pathfinding is retarded,the line of sight is too small and the nod's miniguners are more like knights lol,they have to be next to the target to be able to shoot. In most cases that just means getting squashed by a tank. Also the flamethrower guys are just retarded design,they just shoot flame and explode because they shoot it in their feet,thus triggering a chain reaction of exploding flamethrower guys blowing up and killing all you army. Also it is annoying how disc throwers are strong against infantry and have splash damage unlike the rocket launcher guys.

l2p

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

My extremely short impressions:
1. That intro/faux installation wizard was p cool.
2. The production values look really good and are a proper tribute to the original, this is probably the second best remaster after AoE2 DE.
3. Also, music!
4. The cinematics are an exception though. The ones with live actors look bad, but maybe passable. The CGI ones look fucking horrid though. If they didn't/couldn't remake them (understandable, I guess) then they should really come up with some other solution. Rendering some command room in which they are played on a much smaller screen or whatever.
5. Game lagged af on my fairly high end system. I rolled my eyes hard, but it turns out that it was only in the first soviet mission and then I played up to 6 or 7 and it was perfectly smooth. Dunno what's up with that.
6. And a final comment: yeah, this is mid-90s rts. No unit stances, patrol, attack move, whatever. And holy shite, I really forgot how absolutely retartet pathfinding and unit ai was in these games And the map design usually only exacerbates it, unfortunately. As someone who plays shit from the nineties all the time I guess I buy the "it should play like back then" argument, but crap like units running around literally entire map, passing next to enemies without firing, when you give them attack order on something 5 meters away irks me quite a bit.

 

[Multidirectional]

Yeah it's hard for me to get into as someone who doesn't have nostalgia for this because I only got my first PC in 2003 and only seriously started playing RTS games few years ago, when I was already in my 30s. It does have charm and personality and no doubt it's something I would have fond memories for if I had a chance to play this back when it was released, so I'm not surprised at all by so many people here cumming all over it. But I doubt I'll be willing to get used to clunky gameplay, I already suck enough at more modern RTS with much more convenient controls.

 

[Storyfag]

I already suck enough at more modern RTS with much more convenient controls.

The remasters (as well as the originals, for that matter) include the perfect solution for exactly that problem. Very few modern RTS games have the almighty game speed slider.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

So this ranks up with AoE2 DE as an insanely good remaster?

The remastered OST I listened to was great.

 

[fantadomat]

So this ranks up with AoE2 DE as an insanely good remaster?

The remastered OST I listened to was great.

Not as good as AoE2,but still very good. Sadly the path finding is pretty bad,haven't been touched it seems.

 

[thesheeep]

What's the point of remastering if you don't fix the most glaring issues like crap pathfinding and lack of attack-move?
Just upping the resolution?

Meh. Very meh.

 

[Naraya]

What's the point of remastering

<Insert Give me dem dollah bills picture>

 

[thesheeep]

What's the point of remastering

<Insert Give me dem dollah bills picture>

Well, I kinda meant apart from that