RTS Command & Conquer Remastered Collection from Petroglyph

[Darth Roxor]

It appears earlier in TibSun. It's the group of elite Kane loyalists, led by "Anton Slavik" no less, that you're a part of in the NOD campaign.

 

[Endemic]

It appears earlier in TibSun. It's the group of elite Kane loyalists, led by "Anton Slavik" no less, that you're a part of in the NOD campaign.

I meant the "crazy guy starting World War 1" bit. But sure, I hadn't remembered that since I never finished Tiberian Sun.

 

[Nutmeg]

It appears earlier in TibSun. It's the group of elite Kane loyalists, led by "Anton Slavik" no less, that you're a part of in the NOD campaign.

Yup and in the lore he is a fellow countryman.

A Bosnian Serb by birth, Slavik was orphaned at an early age and grew up during the last stages of the Balkan Civil War. Growing up, he witnessed the United Nations military forces crushing the fighting Serbs. His trauma created his deeply rooted hatred of the West, nurtured further by him and made him translate the Serbian us against the world mentality into Nod allegiance.

 

[Nutmeg]

It appears earlier in TibSun. It's the group of elite Kane loyalists, led by "Anton Slavik" no less, that you're a part of in the NOD campaign.

I meant the "crazy guy starting World War 1" bit. But sure, I hadn't remembered that since I never finished Tiberian Sun.

I think the Tiberian Sun black hand faction is at least a reference to the historical terrorist group. The Tiberian Dawn clip cutscene you shared indicates the devs were clearly familiar with it, after all.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

They were in Renegade as well and wasn't Anton Slavik, "the Serbian Wolf", the ruthless leader of the Black Hand already in Tiberian Sun?

e: Darth Roxor beat me to it.

 

[Caim]

Slavik was a cool dude, too bad they offed him before Tiberium Wars.

 

[Endemic]

Slavik was a cool dude, too bad they offed him before Tiberium Wars.

Allegedly it was because Firestorm had a smaller budget than the base game.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

Slavik was a cool dude, too bad they offed him before Tiberium Wars.

Allegedly it was because Firestorm had a smaller budget than the base game.

Slavik was the star of Firestorm.

Tiberium Wars was a weird retcon of things. It's kind of like Fallout 3 to Fallout 1&2. C&C fans were as upset by C&C3 as Fallout fans were about Fallout 3.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

C&C fans were as upset by C&C3 as Fallout fans were about Fallout 3.

I like the multiplayer best though, Generals is also fun but cnc3 feels more refined.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

C&C fans were as upset by C&C3 as Fallout fans were about Fallout 3.

I like the multiplayer best though, Generals is also fun but cnc3 feels more refined.

The nerds you find on dedicated sites often care more about story and lore than anything else. But I agree that the multiplayer aspect is vastly improved over the unbalanced and lacking Tiberian Sun.

 

[ArchAngel]

C&C fans were as upset by C&C3 as Fallout fans were about Fallout 3.

I like the multiplayer best though, Generals is also fun but cnc3 feels more refined.

There is no better C&C MP game than Generals Zero Hours. The sheer amount of options there kills any competition.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

C&C fans were as upset by C&C3 as Fallout fans were about Fallout 3.

I like the multiplayer best though, Generals is also fun but cnc3 feels more refined.

There is no better C&C MP game than Generals Zero Hours. The sheer amount of options there kills any competition.

Agreed it's very fun, even more so with some of the crazy mods to completely push it over the edge.

 

[Endemic]

Tiberium Wars was a weird retcon of things. It's kind of like Fallout 3 to Fallout 1&2. C&C fans were as upset by C&C3 as Fallout fans were about Fallout 3.

I don't think C&C really needed that many sequels anyway. Generals was fun, so EA didn't need to rely on established settings to make good RTSes.

 

[Black]

"Tiberium Wars"
What are you people talking about? Tiberian Sun was the last canon C&C title, maybe Renegade too.
Apart from that, there was no other C&C title later.

 

[Dayyālu]

"Tiberium Wars"

TibWars had problems. The fact that they had money meant the FMVs are now kind of a porthole in what actors were recognizable back then, and the ambience took a decisive focus on.... it's not exactly realism, but the presentation was far more grounded than TibSun. Maybe too much. I liked a lot when Kane's Wrath brought back some of the sci-fi silliness. Gameplay-wise, it's extremely functional and I even like it, the Scrin are a third faction that doesn't completely suck/lacks balance (Yuri, yes, I'm looking at you) and many ideas (particularly regarding superunits and superweapons) were well executed. Some were not, now I remember the fuckin' Nod walker that had to steal weapons from other Nod units to be upgraded.

It's a very workmanlike RTS. A parallel with Fallout 3 is offensive: F3 rapes the lore and it's Oblivion with guns, with no mechanical depth. I don't even remember many protests, Red Alert 3 was the one that caused seizures by going full Clown Red Dawn. And of course everything is now forgiven thanks to C&C4.

 

[ArchAngel]

Speaking of FMV there is some Terminator themed tactical real time strategy game coming out that will have FMV for SP missions.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Maybe the real globohomo was the friends we made along the way. Also I hope they make RA2 remastered soon. That's the best RTS of all time.

 

[Black]

TibWars

 

[Storyfag]

TibWars

Hush. It is a gud gaem. Not as gud as TibDawn or TibSun, but still gud.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Goddamnit, who is in charge again of keeping Black and Storyfag at least 3 threads apart?

 

[Modron]

Goddamnit, who is in charge again of keeping Black and Storyfag at least 3 threads apart?

I forget it's either Spectral Pontifex or rumSaint.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

I'd like to know who is responsible for further remasters not being announced yet. Wasn't this one a big success sales-wise?

 

[Modron]

I'd like to know who is responsible for further remasters not being announced yet. Wasn't this one a big success sales-wise?

IIRC it was more in the not profitable enough territory.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Well, fuck my life then. I thought 30k all time peak is very decent for such a project.

Edit: just by coincidence, I learned that RA3 is actually a decently played game now. Looking at stuff like this and the numbers that a dud like AoE4 managed to crank out, for example, there must be quite an untapped market for RTS. Bit of a shame that there's no one able to make a proper one, I guess.

 

[Modron]

It made money it just didn't make enough that the bean counters saw value in making further remasters was my impression. Which is sad because they found all the masters needed to give Red Alert the same treatment when tracking down the stuff to make this one.