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I guess they are going for emergent gameplay that creates such stories to be remembered, but who is the target audience here really? Also, if you try to generate "emergent gameplay stories" every odd hour, they stop being memorable or remarkable.
Also maybe don't force "exciting events" on the player just so something happens.
 
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Flavortards should be killed, no new substantial mechanics for years, and if they introduce some mechanics is just "wait until it accumulate, click this and get some modifier". Seriously, they are completely empty of any creativity, at least Johan is returning for EU5 so there is a sliver of hope. As for CK3 it kinda feels like abandonware after these three years.
You know things are bad when "Johan is returning for EUV" sounds like a good sign.
Johan seems to have realized mana sucks and Simulationism is the future (based), so I guess he's coming around for his redemption arc
 

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I'm more unimpressed by the lack of political mechanics between rulers and the catholic church.
Also lack of political mechanics in general.
Johan seems to have realized mana sucks and Simulationism is the future (based), so I guess he's coming around for his redemption arc
I won't hold my breath, but it's really funny how simulationism is the stated goal of EU5, of all things, while CK3 is moving in complete opposite direction.
 

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AFAIK, before mass conscription, the biggest army ever assembled in Europe was around 170k frenchmen in the 1700s, and the King of France literally had to go up and down across the country to muster such numbers
Philip III of France took an army of over 130 000 to Girona in 1285. See "Aragonese Crusade". They were defeated mostly by dysentery after their supply route through the sea was cut.
 
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Romans had campaigns with up to around 200k, but I don't think they ever moved a single force that big. Just too difficult logistically
 

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I'm talking about a single campaign that lasted from the spring of 1284 to the 1st of October 1285 when the only big battle occured, though by that time the French army was not in fighting shape.
 
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Romans had campaigns with up to around 200k, but I don't think they ever moved a single force that big. Just too difficult logistically
The Romans had single armies up to ~100k depending on what the precise count of auxiliaries were in I think 2 cases. But of course their total under arms was much larger. There was never really a situation for them where having 200k in a single battle would have been helpful, though I suspect they could have done it. I believe their highest total military strength ever was around 400,000 and maybe 160,000 of those were actual legionaries. This would have been around ~200 AD.
 
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Yeah the numbers of soldiers the Romans used to throw around was something else. Dudes were legit throwing 50k, 100k armies around like candy. Even before the empire. You simply wouldn't see that kind of thing west of China after the period until the late 1700s. I think it shows how much damage the Fall of Rome did. Also, changing priorities.

Granted, quality did go up in the period, AFAIK a High Roman Army would have been pretty good up to 1000 ADs against peer opponents.
European armies probably also went lower on numbers then because they became a lot more cavalry-based than the Roman Army.
Cavalry-wise, Rome was kinda sad. Heavy Infantry was their bread and butter.
 

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Not only are the reviews in the toilet the the most recent DLC is getting *reamed* on the subreddit right now and also the Steam forums. I feel bad for the devs even. Of course it was their choice to make a half-assed DLC and charge obscene amounts of money for it, so I don't feel *that bad*.
 

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(TOTALLY LEGALLY) redownloaded the game and every dlc yesterday just to check out the ck3 version of after the end. suck my dick johann you're never getting a single cent from me

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Also damn these raiding events are obnoxious. There's one where you find a doll for your kid that can trigger every time you finish raiding, so 4-5 times a month. Extremely obnoxious and unwanted.
 

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Not only are the reviews in the toilet the the most recent DLC is getting *reamed* on the subreddit right now and also the Steam forums. I feel bad for the devs even. Of course it was their choice to make a half-assed DLC and charge obscene amounts of money for it, so I don't feel *that bad*.
Who cares, their DDs harvested so many love reactions on their forum, that's what matters! :lol:
 

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Not only are the reviews in the toilet the the most recent DLC is getting *reamed* on the subreddit right now and also the Steam forums. I feel bad for the devs even. Of course it was their choice to make a half-assed DLC and charge obscene amounts of money for it, so I don't feel *that bad*.
I blame long covid. Remember, all of CK3's problems stem from the fact that it was released during covid.
Now, time to celebrate a great launch with another well deserved swedish spring break.
 

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(TOTALLY LEGALLY) redownloaded the game and every dlc yesterday just to check out the ck3 version of after the end. suck my dick johann you're never getting a single cent from me

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Also damn these raiding events are obnoxious. There's one where you find a doll for your kid that can trigger every time you finish raiding, so 4-5 times a month. Extremely obnoxious and unwanted.
What is this map and why does it give me vertigo?
 

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Any opinions on Godherja? The mod doesn't work now, but I would like to at least try it, but after my experience with the New Order, I'm afraid of a repeat of the graphomaniacal plot of that mod.

Has the Pink Panzer finally learned how to write?
 

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Unlanded confirmed. Oddly description implies it doesn't have republics among new government types (one would expect them to be mentioned if included).
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MASSIVE OVER-INCLINE
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You DO realize that the "Unlanded Gameplay" will essentially be a glorified text spam simulator, right?
The landless gameplay is too big to fit well in just one DLC. If they wanted to focus on landless play, they should've made the main game about being a minor noble. Since they missed that, they should now work on improving things that can actually get better with DLC.
 
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Unlanded confirmed. Oddly description implies it doesn't have republics among new government types (one would expect them to be mentioned if included).
incline.png
MASSIVE OVER-INCLINE
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You DO realize that the "Unlanded Gameplay" will essentially be a glorified text spam simulator, right?
The landless gameplay is too big to fit well in just one DLC. If they wanted to focus on landless play, they should've made the main game about being a minor noble. Since they missed that, they should now work on improving things that can actually get better with DLC.
We shall see.
 

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Yeah the numbers of soldiers the Romans used to throw around was something else. Dudes were legit throwing 50k, 100k armies around like candy. Even before the empire.
By the time Teutoburg Forest happened they lost 20k and that was 1/10 of Rome's total military strength, so it was a huge blow. Even when Romans had 300-450k troops at their peak, they didn't muster together more than 50k all that often as they had to cover a large area, so "throwing 50k, 100k armies around like candy" is a stretch. The largest armies ever assembled at that time were around 80k (Cannae), 120k (Arausio) and 200k (Philippi, 100k on each side), and that's including auxiliaries/allies and camp followers.
 

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Unlanded confirmed. Oddly description implies it doesn't have republics among new government types (one would expect them to be mentioned if included).
incline.png
MASSIVE OVER-INCLINE
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You DO realize that the "Unlanded Gameplay" will essentially be a glorified text spam simulator, right?
The landless gameplay is too big to fit well in just one DLC. If they wanted to focus on landless play, they should've made the main game about being a minor noble. Since they missed that, they should now work on improving things that can actually get better with DLC.
We shall see.
If you look at how things went with Legends, there's no frigging way unlanded gameplay doesn't suck donkey balls.
 

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games fun u just need 2 have an imagination 2 enjoy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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