Grand Strategy Crusader Kings III

[Stavrophore]

He is at least decently competent compared to the rest of paradox.

 

[Minecrawler]

I'm more unimpressed by the lack of political mechanics between rulers and the catholic church.

Also lack of political mechanics in general.

Johan seems to have realized mana sucks and Simulationism is the future (based), so I guess he's coming around for his redemption arc

I won't hold my breath, but it's really funny how simulationism is the stated goal of EU5, of all things, while CK3 is moving in complete opposite direction.

 

[Fafnir]

The sad part is that most total conversion mods ditched CK2 for CK3.

 

[AwesomeButton]

AFAIK, before mass conscription, the biggest army ever assembled in Europe was around 170k frenchmen in the 1700s, and the King of France literally had to go up and down across the country to muster such numbers

Philip III of France took an army of over 130 000 to Girona in 1285. See "Aragonese Crusade". They were defeated mostly by dysentery after their supply route through the sea was cut.

 

[Average Manatee]

Romans had campaigns with up to around 200k, but I don't think they ever moved a single force that big. Just too difficult logistically

 

[AwesomeButton]

I'm talking about a single campaign that lasted from the spring of 1284 to the 1st of October 1285 when the only big battle occured, though by that time the French army was not in fighting shape.

 

[Axioms]

Romans had campaigns with up to around 200k, but I don't think they ever moved a single force that big. Just too difficult logistically

The Romans had single armies up to ~100k depending on what the precise count of auxiliaries were in I think 2 cases. But of course their total under arms was much larger. There was never really a situation for them where having 200k in a single battle would have been helpful, though I suspect they could have done it. I believe their highest total military strength ever was around 400,000 and maybe 160,000 of those were actual legionaries. This would have been around ~200 AD.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Yeah the numbers of soldiers the Romans used to throw around was something else. Dudes were legit throwing 50k, 100k armies around like candy. Even before the empire. You simply wouldn't see that kind of thing west of China after the period until the late 1700s. I think it shows how much damage the Fall of Rome did. Also, changing priorities.

Granted, quality did go up in the period, AFAIK a High Roman Army would have been pretty good up to 1000 ADs against peer opponents.
European armies probably also went lower on numbers then because they became a lot more cavalry-based than the Roman Army.
Cavalry-wise, Rome was kinda sad. Heavy Infantry was their bread and butter.

 

[Axioms]

Not only are the reviews in the toilet the the most recent DLC is getting *reamed* on the subreddit right now and also the Steam forums. I feel bad for the devs even. Of course it was their choice to make a half-assed DLC and charge obscene amounts of money for it, so I don't feel *that bad*.

 

[Mr. Pink]

(TOTALLY LEGALLY) redownloaded the game and every dlc yesterday just to check out the ck3 version of after the end. suck my dick johann you're never getting a single cent from me

Also damn these raiding events are obnoxious. There's one where you find a doll for your kid that can trigger every time you finish raiding, so 4-5 times a month. Extremely obnoxious and unwanted.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Not only are the reviews in the toilet the the most recent DLC is getting *reamed* on the subreddit right now and also the Steam forums. I feel bad for the devs even. Of course it was their choice to make a half-assed DLC and charge obscene amounts of money for it, so I don't feel *that bad*.

Who cares, their DDs harvested so many love reactions on their forum, that's what matters!

 

[Minecrawler]

Not only are the reviews in the toilet the the most recent DLC is getting *reamed* on the subreddit right now and also the Steam forums. I feel bad for the devs even. Of course it was their choice to make a half-assed DLC and charge obscene amounts of money for it, so I don't feel *that bad*.

I blame long covid. Remember, all of CK3's problems stem from the fact that it was released during covid.
Now, time to celebrate a great launch with another well deserved swedish spring break.

 

[IDtenT]

(TOTALLY LEGALLY) redownloaded the game and every dlc yesterday just to check out the ck3 version of after the end. suck my dick johann you're never getting a single cent from me

Also damn these raiding events are obnoxious. There's one where you find a doll for your kid that can trigger every time you finish raiding, so 4-5 times a month. Extremely obnoxious and unwanted.

What is this map and why does it give me vertigo?

 

[Harthwain]

What is this map and why does it give me vertigo?

Rotate it by 90 degrees and you should be fine.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Any opinions on Godherja? The mod doesn't work now, but I would like to at least try it, but after my experience with the New Order, I'm afraid of a repeat of the graphomaniacal plot of that mod.

Has the Pink Panzer finally learned how to write?

 

[The Jester]

Unlanded confirmed. Oddly description implies it doesn't have republics among new government types (one would expect them to be mentioned if included).

MASSIVE OVER-INCLINE

You DO realize that the "Unlanded Gameplay" will essentially be a glorified text spam simulator, right?
The landless gameplay is too big to fit well in just one DLC. If they wanted to focus on landless play, they should've made the main game about being a minor noble. Since they missed that, they should now work on improving things that can actually get better with DLC.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Unlanded confirmed. Oddly description implies it doesn't have republics among new government types (one would expect them to be mentioned if included).

MASSIVE OVER-INCLINE

You DO realize that the "Unlanded Gameplay" will essentially be a glorified text spam simulator, right?
The landless gameplay is too big to fit well in just one DLC. If they wanted to focus on landless play, they should've made the main game about being a minor noble. Since they missed that, they should now work on improving things that can actually get better with DLC.

We shall see.

 

[Harthwain]

Yeah the numbers of soldiers the Romans used to throw around was something else. Dudes were legit throwing 50k, 100k armies around like candy. Even before the empire.

By the time Teutoburg Forest happened they lost 20k and that was 1/10 of Rome's total military strength, so it was a huge blow. Even when Romans had 300-450k troops at their peak, they didn't muster together more than 50k all that often as they had to cover a large area, so "throwing 50k, 100k armies around like candy" is a stretch. The largest armies ever assembled at that time were around 80k (Cannae), 120k (Arausio) and 200k (Philippi, 100k on each side), and that's including auxiliaries/allies and camp followers.

 

[Axioms]

Unlanded confirmed. Oddly description implies it doesn't have republics among new government types (one would expect them to be mentioned if included).

MASSIVE OVER-INCLINE

You DO realize that the "Unlanded Gameplay" will essentially be a glorified text spam simulator, right?
The landless gameplay is too big to fit well in just one DLC. If they wanted to focus on landless play, they should've made the main game about being a minor noble. Since they missed that, they should now work on improving things that can actually get better with DLC.

We shall see.

If you look at how things went with Legends, there's no frigging way unlanded gameplay doesn't suck donkey balls.

 

[Average Manatee]

It's probably going to have 4-6 different events chains that end up giving you a county and that's it

 

[Axioms]

It's probably going to have 4-6 different events chains that end up giving you a county and that's it

Yeah basically.

 

[Oberon]

games fun u just need 2 have an imagination 2 enjoy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[AwesomeButton]

In case you haven't noticed. Crusader Kings II is in the Strategy Games section of the steam store. Crusader Kings III is in what they are calling "RPG Games" section.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

In case you haven't noticed. Crusader Kings II is in the Strategy Games section of the steam store. Crusader Kings III is in what they are calling "RPG Games" section.

CKII - strategy game.

CKIII - silly pop-up RPG game.

Paradoxically, this gameplay pattern makes it better for fictional mods than for a historical game. In a fantasy mod, the characters can be designed to be interesting, as can the paths of life, which in a historical game suffer from the repetition of life itself.

 

[Axioms]

The limiting factor on the CK3 characters/social simulation is CPU time. Because you have a huge number of characters that need to make interesting decisions and have interesting interactions but also 200 years passes in 10 hours.