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Commissar Draco

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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
Why you stupid f....s play this beta of demo? The game will be playable in year and complete (more or less, where are muh playable Knight Orders and Papacy Paradox?), moreover who is really playing with vanilla nowadays? Wait for cutting out most of Kangz and street-shitters mod for very least. So far its Crusaders Kangz for Commissar. :lol:
 

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Great work is being done. People are working their hands to the bone
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Overall, all those UI grievances are just baby duck syndrome - we were introduced to it, we got used to it, and we don't like the change. It'll pass. UI is tolerable and MUCH more informative than CKII, with extensive use of highlithting - I like it and will like it more when got used to it.
As for SJW shit - CKII had all of those as well as a togglable option - you can modify rules as you wish and that's not a fucking SJW catering because there is also historical option, with no women right at all.
 

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Some people can get to eating poo too Comrade, for me the interface is awful but hopefully we will get mod bringing back the :obviously: one from CK2... as to SJW as long as I can turn it off and payed no kopiejka for game... Anyways CK2 will be more popular for years anyways unless you are onto sex with barbie dolls, once more Commissar is not judging* those who do.

*Only SJWs foam from their mouth seeing that people have fun with things they don't like for normal people its whatever/Cyka blad reaction.


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Readin' this thread only really made me realise how old I am. You folks are no longer funny with your edge :( I crave for the day when CK4 drops and all the same faces will be there yellin' DECLINE, SOULLESS GAME WHEN COMPARED TO CK3, LOL, WHY ARE YOU PLAYING IT, IT LACKS ALL WONDERFUL CK3 FEATURES.
 

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Games just came out no ones made up their mind yet so relax. CK2 and Vicky are the only games they ever put out where people looked back on the previous games and realised the recent game was better despite its flaws.
But I mean you only get to release a game once so I think its right to critique this early on especially when so many people always say "well the games not out yet so you can't criticise it" well it is now and yes we can and yes we should.
 

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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
Readin' this thread only really made me realise how old I am. You folks are no longer funny with your edge :( I crave for the day when CK4 drops and all the same faces will be there yellin' DECLINE, SOULLESS GAME WHEN COMPARED TO CK3, LOL, WHY ARE YOU PLAYING IT, IT LACKS ALL WONDERFUL CK3 FEATURES.

Are you planning to self eject from our August Company Comrade?
 

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Finally unfucked my neverending war and won 17 battles in a row maxing out strategist perks and my ruler dies of fucking cancer
 

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There is also one Muslim sect that accepts homosexuality, dunno whether or not it's historically accurate.
Some Muslims have always been really into bussy. Ottomans dressed male slaves in drag and said it's fine, in Siwa they used to fight over who gets to pop the new boy's butt and in modern day Afghanistan they still like to rape young boys (Google bacha bazi).
 

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Started as a Duke under the Basileos, faffed around a bit, tried things out, ended abruptly when dead without heir. Hard to say how all the mechanics will fare compared to CK2, but quick impressions:

*The UI is actually good in terms of how it organises information and shows the connective threads - Pdox games too often suffer from reading "X modifier changes Y" without being told what the fuck Y is, or being told "X needs Z" and then you have to click 8 times to get to Z. This UI is better on that front. Visually they went too far away from skeuomorphism and with way too big buttons and shit, but the general structure of it for information purposes is promising. We need a "fit more rows/columns on screen" UI mod.

*Feels like the tone of events/text is a bit too much towards zany carefree meme land, but overall it's not fundamentally different from CK2.

*War is going to be as mindless ever, trotting levies around playing whack-a-mole. Seljuks ran amok conquering the same Armenian lands again and again at least a dozen times with no opposition before actually winning the war.
 

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There is also one Muslim sect that accepts homosexuality, dunno whether or not it's historically accurate.
Some Muslims have always been really into bussy. Ottomans dressed male slaves in drag and said it's fine, in Siwa they used to fight over who gets to pop the new boy's butt and in modern day Afghanistan they still like to rape young boys (Google bacha bazi).

And equating any of that with what paradox means when they say “accepts homosexuality” is as ignorant as them calling Islamic polygamy “polyamory”, as I mentioned.
 

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Attaching to other armies and asking allies to do certain things isn't in yet, or did I miss a button?
 

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The men-at-arms costing Prestige is something I really dislike because Prestige is used also to declare wars. I don't like that at all. I think it should have just been gold like Retinues were in CK2 because its possible to lock yourself out of progress accidentally. So let that be a warning don't immediately get a men-at-arms because it'll stop your ability to declare war. Learned that the hard way. Its better to save prestige for your next war dec.
 

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The yet unannounced first "big" expansion will cost $30 - 50% more than the previous "big" expansions to their games, which hopefully means, that the CK3 expansions will be extensive compared to the smaller CK2 expansions.
 

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Yeah the map looks really cool, but I would like another level from the bottom where you interact with county-tier or only direct vassals.

Currently I find sieges / who I'm at war with very difficult as I don't reflexively march onto the correct territory.

It also makes knowing who your vassals are difficult, as there is no colour coding.
 

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Yeah the map looks really cool, but I would like another level from the bottom where you interact with county-tier or only direct vassals.

Currently I find sieges / who I'm at war with very difficult as I don't reflexively march onto the correct territory.

It also makes knowing who your vassals are difficult, as there is no colour coding.

#metoo
 

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Yeah the map looks really cool, but I would like another level from the bottom where you interact with county-tier or only direct vassals.

Currently I find sieges / who I'm at war with very difficult as I don't reflexively march onto the correct territory.

It also makes knowing who your vassals are difficult, as there is no colour coding.
LoL the map is terrible,there is no proper borders to counties,duchies and such. The whole changing colours on zoom in and out is really annoying,also missing some good map types,there is like only 7,culture,religion,three types of government rank and the generic map. The game is really missing basic features that were part of ck2. Also the character finding options are atrotious and mostly useless. You can't for example find all the vassals that don't fallow your fate because there is only two options for fate,Christian and orthodox. There is no option for not my religion. There is plenty of other small things that are missing from the game.
 

fantadomat

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Played for a few hours and the game is huge decline compared to CK2. A shit ton of features are missing and they went way back on the functionality,the fucking UI is a nightmare. Most of the map types are gone,it looks and feels like a fucking mobile game. Nearly all the flavour is also gone,the only thing i get is invitation to a feast. It really is a shallow shadow of CK2. Here is an example of the retarded UI.
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Also the sjw shit is trough the roof,most of the rulers have become women,same with 70% of my vassals.

Yeah, the UI is a total abomination in terms of looks and is mega obtrusive (even though you can change the size of it). Looking at it makes me want to vomit. It's as someone before has said in this thread, it looks like an UI that was designed for tablets and phones. The worst part of it is that it lacks soul, the CK2 was stylized and gave you that medieval feeling when looking at it. It also slightly changed depending on, which religion you had. In the CK3's UI also those rainbow colored buttons on the right are an eyesore. What were they thinking when designing it that way?

Dunno about the sjw stuff. I'm glad that they didn't remove Deus Vult! from the game like they previously planned. I'm not bothered that much with the cucked start options if they can be simply ignored. I guess expanding the map to inculde greater number of provinces from sub-Saharan Africa and claiming by one of the developers that this region was more developed than Russia was at that time is the biggest SJW thing included in this game. There is also one Muslim sect that accepts homosexuality, dunno whether or not it's historically accurate. Apart from that I don't see any other sjw influences, but correct me if I'm wrong. For me this game looks completely soulless compared to CK2, they also removed latin names for laws and stuff, which I don't like.
Yeah the UI is truly annoying and uncomfortable,while playing you have the feel that everything is in the wrong place. For example the buttons are on the far right side and a chore to use,should have been put in the upper or lower middle of the screen. There is a ton of such examples. And yeah i did say it feels like a fucking mobile design,big buttons and big boxes,it is made for a tablet.

Fuck,the sjw shit a lot in the game,as i said most of the rulers are women for some reason,religion is just a joke lol,a pointless tab. I found a bunch of faggots in the forest and had only two options,suck their dick or laugh and ignore them. Got cucked by my wife....and couldn't even imprison her for a nice torture,that is retarded! The game really lacks any flavour. Also it is not even good for a map painter,i can only wage one county claim wars,can't even press all my claims at once,have to wait for retarded truce.


There is nothing historical left in this pile of shit.
 

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