Cyberpunk 2077 Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[RNGsus]

cute redhead

 

[GarfunkeL]

Can we turn off damage numbers over enemies yet?

 

[Dodo1610]

Can we turn off damage numbers over enemies yet?

took me 4 seconds https://www.pcgamer.com/cyberpunk-2...be-turned-off-a-lot-of-hud-settings-optional/

 

[GarfunkeL]

Oh that sounds good. I definitely want as minimal GUI as possible.

 

[Zer0wing]

Crap! I hoped they would pave their own way.
Bracing myself for a pretentious BR-wannabe

Have you even seen this game.

Yes I have. I know it might come as a surprise but not all cyberpunk games have to emulate BR.
Some of them can stand on their own. We shall see...

Funny how most of criticism this game gets is that it doesn't look like BR and has actual daytime.

 

[Gerrard]

Oh that sounds good. I definitely want as minimal GUI as possible.

But then how will you know you're playing a "true RPG experience"?

 

[hexer]

Crap! I hoped they would pave their own way.
Bracing myself for a pretentious BR-wannabe

Have you even seen this game.

Yes I have. I know it might come as a surprise but not all cyberpunk games have to emulate BR.
Some of them can stand on their own. We shall see...

Funny how most of criticism this game gets is that it doesn't look like BR and has actual daytime.

Oh well, the average person which forms the majority has an average IQ.
They don't see correlations even when they're in front of them.
The fact the story revolves around an immortality chip while the main theme of BR is also immortality/lifespan should be a dead giveaway.

 

[Zer0wing]

Oh well, the average person which forms the majority has an average IQ.
They don't see correlations even when they're in front of them.
The fact the story revolves around an immortality chip while the main theme of BR is also immortality/lifespan should be a dead giveaway.

Your not so superior IQ failed to spot the main red flag, though. This so-called immortality might revolve around that program from source material that digitizes persons consciousness and kills the bearer. A so-so immortality. Nothing like BR. Potential plot holes and lore breaks are incoming, yes, but still nothing BR in it.
BTW, Blade Runner is not about immortality thingy.

 

[Prime Junta]

It'd be almost impossible to make any kind of visual cyberpunk thing -- film, TV, game -- and not be massively influenced by BR. If you do, it's obvious, and if you don't, people will whine "this isn't cyberpunk." Like, you know, when it turns out that sometimes it's daytime in Night City.

 

[Danikas]

Crap! I hoped they would pave their own way.
Bracing myself for a pretentious BR-wannabe

Have you even seen this game.

Yes I have. I know it might come as a surprise but not all cyberpunk games have to emulate BR.
Some of them can stand on their own. We shall see...

Funny how most of criticism this game gets is that it doesn't look like BR and has actual daytime.

Oh well, the average person which forms the majority has an average IQ.
They don't see correlations even when they're in front of them.
The fact the story revolves around an immortality chip while the main theme of BR is also immortality/lifespan should be a dead giveaway.

More like Neuromancer, first blade runner was about rebellion against your creator not immortality.

Nueromancer
" Armitage assigns them their first job: they must steal a Rom module that contains the saved consciousness of one of Case's mentors, legendary cyber-cowboy McCoy Pauley, nicknamed "Dixie Flatline." Armitage needs Pauley's hacking expertise, and the ROM construct is stored in the corporate headquarters of media conglomerate Sense/Net."

Count Zero
"All of these plot lines come together at the end of the story and Virek – the hunter of his immortality and unlimited power – becomes the hunted. It is hinted that multiple AIs secretly inhabiting cyberspace are the fragmented, compartmentalized remains of two AIs, Neuromancer and Wintermute, having joined together (introduced in Neuromancer, and designed by the head of this Rockefeller-like family, the Tessier-Ashpools). These AI units now interface with humanity in the form of different Haitian voodoo gods, as they have found these images to be the best representations of themselves through which they can communicate with people. "

Must have hurt them when Gibson dissed the first trailer


But later he liked it.

 

[hexer]

BTW, Blade Runner is not about immortality thingy.

Unicorn was a popular symbol for Christ, ever since the book Physiologus from the 2nd century.
Because of that he was attributed with powers of bringing the dead back to life,
and the person who drinks his blood would become immortal.

The chess game in the movie and the last three moves Batty uses to enter the Tyrell Corporation are based of an actual chess game from 1851 called "Immortal Game".
At the end of it, the pawns become the queen, the most powerful chess piece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_(chess)

Lastly, Batty literally asks his creator / god for more life because death / life's end is a problem for him.

 

[Quillon]

it turns out that sometimes it's daytime in Night City.

aww damn, do we know how often its day time?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

it turns out that sometimes it's daytime in Night City.

aww damn, do we know how often its day time?

Pretty much once a day.

 

[Danikas]

 

[Machocruz]

BR is a hell of a movie, but I'm tired of the dick riding honestly. This so called "cyberpunk" movie has the least cyber of any cyperpunk thing I've ever seen or read, and it's not even faithful to its source in this regard. It is not the end all be all of cp, and I'm tempted to say it isn't at all, but I'm sure I'd be reminded by some advanced autist about some background of the background detail or .03 second scene I forgot about. Oh yeah, he talks to a camera and cars have computers on them.

Muh atmosphere dough, muh visuals dough. Yes, yes, of course. But I can also cite other movies that work just as well, like Robocop, which is kind of what I picture when reading the Sprawl Trilogy. Perpetually grey during the day.

What i like about the PnP game is that they pulled from the various sources and cobbled together something that is quintessentially, prototypically cyberpunk. Peak cyberpunk, made better by the fact that the player can add their own ideas and imagination to the mix. CDProjekt don't need to be looking at BR or anything else, it's all right there in the assorted game materials. The research and pre-production was already done for them.

 

[Tito Anic]

In before this turns out to be the greatest cyberpunk game ever.

It will

 

[hexer]

This so called "cyberpunk" movie has the least cyber of any cyperpunk thing I've ever seen or read

A movie about artificial people isn't cyber enough? What kind of shit are you smoking.. pass it here!
We're not talking about the atmosphere or visuals here but the fact how it's still quoted and referenced by artists of all kind almost 40 years later.
As evidenced by CDPR's little Twitter tribute.. anyway, direct your criticism there and things might actually change .. unless it's too late.

 

[Wesp5]

This so called "cyberpunk" movie has the least cyber of any cyperpunk thing I've ever seen or read

A movie about artificial people isn't cyber enough?

He has a point though. Read the Gibson sprawl trilogy and you'll find there is much more to cyberpunk that what is shown in Blade Runner. Like the whole idea of cyberspace!

 

[Machocruz]

A movie about artificial people isn't cyber enough? What kind of shit are you smoking.. pass it here!
We're not talking about the atmosphere or visuals here but the fact how it's still quoted and referenced by artists of all kind almost 40 years later.
As evidenced by CDPR's little Twitter tribute.. anyway, direct your criticism there and things might actually change .. unless it's too late.

The artificial people are organic. Not cyber enough, not cyber at all. I've seen other people use the term 'biopunk,' that's closer to the mark.

I'm aware of the film's influence. I think it has too much influence on a lot of people, the think it's how CP should be, the last word. That's nonsense and the genre would be the poorer for it. Btw I wasn't referring to your discussion above or the Tweet, which I just now saw. I've seen comments on Twitter and YT complaining about lack of rain in the CP2077 trailer lol.

 

[hexer]

The artificial people are organic. Not cyber enough, not cyber at all. I've seen other people use the term 'biopunk,' that's closer to the mark.

This is wrong. Cybernetic doesn't automatically mean artificial.
Cybernetics is the science of communications and automatic control systems in both machines and living things.
Valid examples are electronic computers, the human brain, biological populations, and human society.

 

[Sam Ecorners]

I absolutely agree with the idea that holding BR as the holiest of the holy when it comes to the genre of cyberpunk is stupid. It's dystopian enough, sure, but it's missing a lot of the components of Gibson's cyberpunk. It's still my favorite movie tho

 

[RNGsus]

Its Blade Runner, not BR.

 

[The Last Blackguard]

Must have hurt them when Gibson dissed the first trailer


But leter he liked it.

I gotta say, I love Gibson's work, but he's massively crotchety and out of touch these days. People took him shittalking the trailer way, way too seriously.

EDIT: Thanks to the mod who fixed that quote sandwich.

 

[Prime Junta]

I gotta say, I love Gibson's work, but he's massively crotchety and out of touch these days. People took him shittalking the trailer way, way too seriously.

 

[Machocruz]

This is wrong. Cybernetic doesn't automatically mean artificial.
Cybernetics is the science of communications and automatic control systems in both machines and living things.
Valid examples are electronic computers, the human brain, biological populations, and human society.

How is this explicitly touched on in the film to where it would be relevant to your point that clones are cyber? The entity itself is the field of study? We get brief glimpses into the manufacturing process and some of the chemical elements involved, no insight into the larger field of cybernetics.

The prefix in the relevant context, has to do with computing, IT, virtual reality, human-machine interface, etc. This was established in the foundational works of the genre, and carried forth by the vast majority of media that followed. Except the Ultimate Cyberpunk Movie™, Blade Runner. Any story that involves lab grown, biological humans is "cyber"? I don't think so.