Cyberpunk 2077 Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Yosharian]

Yeah I dunno I like some of the track but I agree that the lyrics are pretty weak overall

I'd love to see what you think are "good lyrics".

Also Killer Mike is one of those guys who is embarrassingly political and it kinda shows here with his lame line about corps running Cali

Isn't Night City located in Cali? It's not embarrassingly political, it's on topic, you dingus.

What was that again? "People hating on it for reasons other than its artistic value."

I'm saying it's a weak line, not that I disagree with the sentiment nor that it's out of place in the song.

As for what might constitute good lyrics, anything by MF Doom or Del tha Funky Homosapien, perhaps?

https://youtu.be/u9HQ0pbHcCw?t=1123 would be an example

I thought El-P's lines were alright, maybe a few duds but quite good. Mike's verses just didn't hit the mark for me.

I used to pray to God / But I think he took a vacation
Cos now the state of Cali / Is run by these corporations

There's just nothing particularly smart about that verse, it fits and everything but it doesn't blow my mind like something Del might come out with. It's just average. It's like something any run of the mill anti-establishment rapper could come up with. And an average verse coming from somebody like Killer Mike is pretty damn weak.

 

[Yosharian]

Also Life a fucking bitch / But this bitch ain't divorcing me is just dumb

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Is this the rap literary analysis thread now?

 

[Yosharian]

Is this the rap literary analysis thread now?

If you've got something else to discuss, feel free to change the subject. Maybe we can whine some more about overrated Keanu Reeves is? Or speculate further on how buggy the game will be on release? Or any number of other pointless things

 

[Steezus]

Oh yes, please post something from a genre defining classic record or literally the most unique MC to ever do it. Of course it's not Deltron or DOOM level.

El's verse is like a slightly less serious (vidya gaems, yall) version of his Early verse. There's not a single dud line here, shit like "Morality's only a memory when belly's empty" is pretty great, rhmye scheme is way above average and as usualy, nobody flows like him. Mike definitely got murked on here (which isn't unusual for RTJ), but his verse is still alright.

Also, I love how you went from "it's pretty weak overall" to "yeah, half of it is quite good".

Also Life a fucking bitch / But this bitch ain't divorcing me is just dumb

lmao, no it's not. It's a flip on a classic line and it works great in the context of a sleazy, zero morality dystopian setting.

 

[Yosharian]

Agree to disagree.

 

[Silverfish]

I'd love to see what you think are "good lyrics".

 

[Avarize]

. I have actually never watched Scarface, if you would believe it.

It's overrated.

I'd love to see what you think are "good lyrics".

Anything by Rakim. Killer Mike is always pretty weak on RTJ songs tbh.

 

[Peachcurl]

I don't care enough about that music genre to say whether that song is good by itself. It just doesn't fit my expectations of the game setting. And by the way, I'm not sure I like the black dog song much better. I know what you are thinking. It's NOT about the dog being black. I'm a pretty dark dog myself, you see? Woof.

 

[Fedora Master]

Nigger music for a nigger game.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Ol' Willy]

Rap is not music. Rap is people talking over stolen samples.

 

[deadmeme]

Rap is not music. Rap is people talking over stolen samples.

Good anti-commie music for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTWvHKKif1U

 

[Avarize]

Rap is not music. Rap is people talking over stolen samples.

Are you one of those people who says rap isn't music but likes black metal?

 

[MasPingon]

So CDPR hired a band making generic game music and gave them cash. This band, like many others of their kind, didin't know what they were doing and probably didn't know shit about Cyberpunk. They see Keanu, they rap about it. People have noticed how retarded it is, so CDPR make even more retarded explanation instead of saying - yeah, we fucked this up. So this band rap about some little-known actor mistaken of JS instead of JS himself. Yeah, that's logical. They have broken 4th wall in worst possible way.

 

[jackofshadows]

So CDPR hired a band making generic game music and gave them cash. This band, like many others of their kind, didin't know what they are doing and probably didn't know shit about Cyberpunk. They see Keanu, they rap about it. People have noticed how retarded it is, so CDPR make even more retarded explanation instead of saying - yeah, we fucked this up. So this band rap about some little-known actor mistaken of JS instead of JS himself. Yeah, that's logical.

Occama's razor tells that, yeah. Wonder how many fanbois swallowed that explanation though.

 

[TemplarGR]

I don't like this track. I like that band in Far Cry New Dawn though, much better song:



Conclusion: Far Cry New Dawn is both a better game AND has better music by the same artists

 

[Terenty]

So this shit will be playing in the game? This Samurai band is cringe too

Only Grimes fits somehow

 

[Alexios]

Everything about this game is cringe.

 

[kangaxx]

Codexer's hate it in equal parts racisim and ignorance to the genre.

I like a lot of El-P's previous work w/ Cannibal, Aesop Rock etc., and I think this new track is dogshit.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

I do forget if you could change it to nighttime in the first one

Unfortunately, it is not possible.

I have no idea what modern GTAs are like, if they are still riding that GTA3 formula or not.

GTA3 itself was a "crossgen" title for Rockstar, many of the arcade elements like topdown camera and adding cash to player's bank account for mayhem, veeeeery cheesy "gore" or dark cynical tone of the first two games are still there. (it was supposed to be even more cynical though as can be seen in cut content)

Vice City is the only one of them I actually liked post-GTA2, I still have a physical copy for the PS2.

Vice City is where it properly starts for Rockstar to having their formula refined enough to ride on. I dislike this title personally. San Andreas is much more sophisticated. Scarface 20 years late "tie-in", too.

What the fuck?

The actual Scarface GTA clone game was better than Vice City. I liked having to distribute drugs and manage fronts. And I liked customising my cokehead mansion.

 

[Darkwind]

Rap is not music. Rap is people talking over stolen samples.

Are you one of those people who says rap isn't music but likes black metal?

I'm the horrible rayciss who posted the KANGZ meme about this song. That being said... I listen to rap. And unless you are simply being dishonest most modern rap is fucking garbage. Modern music in fact, but rap in particular. This is not speculation. Music is getting tonally and rhythmically less complex as the decades roll on. There is some rap that is very good & complex, but most of it is utter shyte and the newer the more that tends to be the case. Like all of society, it is regressing back to simple grunts and simple beats. Don't attempt to defend the indefensible, it is not a good look... If you follow the sublinks in that article there are half a dozen studies with well vetted evidence that this is the case.
tl;dr- Western Civilization is dysgenic and regressing, stupid people make stupid music for other stupid people to enjoy.

https://science.slashdot.org/story/...c-becoming-louder-simpler-and-more-repetitive

 

[Yosharian]

I don't think it necessarily follows that your regression argument applies to this track. We can debate how good the verses are, but I wouldn't say the beats are lacking in complexity.

There's also an argument to be made that a relatively simpler song works better as part of a soundtrack to what's basically an action-RPG...

 

[Gerrard]

https://www.daserste.de/information/wissen-kultur/ttt/videos/sendung-vom-15112020-video-106.html

Is any of this footage new? Also any local Krauts can tell us if anything of worth was said there?

 

[ChildInTime]

https://www.daserste.de/information/wissen-kultur/ttt/videos/sendung-vom-15112020-video-106.html

Is any of this footage new? Also any local Krauts can tell us if anything of worth was said there?

Yes. Female V looks much better than before.