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Vapourware Daggerfall Unity isnt Vaporware

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Okay, I played it for an hour and I'm getting a bit frustrated, unsure if it's because of my skill or botched character creation, but both magical imps and skeletons appear to be downright immortal.

Getting ebony dagger at startup makes all the difference.
Yeah, that dagger is gold at the beginning. And skeletons are assholes but from lvl 4-5 on you hack them to tiny bone fragments without blinking an eye. If you have some fighting capabilities that is.
 

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Beside imps requiring at least steel weapon to damage them, it's also important to note that harpies require at least dwarven weapons. Harpies can often be encountered in dungeons in early game and you can run in to them before dwarven stuff starts to drop. Can be a major issue in certain dungeons.
 

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Here's my overpowered character class. It does require save editing to get all the advantages and disadvantages. I run Levelup Adjuster and set the modification for stats to be 50. The stat maximum is set to 200.

Name: War Mage,

AdvancementMultiplier: 0.5,

HitPointsPerLevel: 30,

Strength: 50,

Intelligence: 50,

Willpower: 50,

Agility: 50,

Endurance: 50,

Personality: 50,

Speed: 50,

Luck: 50,

PrimarySkill1: Destruction,

PrimarySkill2: Restoration,

PrimarySkill3: LongBlade,

MajorSkill1: Alteration,

MajorSkill2: Mysticism,

MajorSkill3: Thaumaturgy,

MinorSkill1: CriticalStrike,

MinorSkill2: Dodging,

MinorSkill3: Illusion,

MinorSkill4: Jumping,

MinorSkill5: Running,

MinorSkill6: Streetwise,

Paralysis: Immune,

Magic: Immune,

Poison: Immune,

Fire: Immune,

Frost: Immune,

Shock: Immune,

Disease: Immune,

ShortBlades: Normal,

LongBlades: Normal,

HandToHand: Normal,

Axes: Normal,

BluntWeapons: Normal,

MissileWeapons: Normal,

UndeadAttackModifier: Normal,

DaedraAttackModifier: Normal,

HumanoidAttackModifier: Normal,

AnimalsAttackModifier: Normal,

DarknessPoweredMagery: ,

LightPoweredMagery: ,

ForbiddenMaterials: ,

ForbiddenShields: ,

ForbiddenArmors: ,

ForbiddenProficiencies: ,

ExpertProficiencies: ,

SpellPointMultiplier: Times_3_00,

SpellPointMultiplierValue: 3.0,

SpellAbsorption: Always,

NoRegenSpellPoints: false,

AcuteHearing: true,

Athleticism: true,

AdrenalineRush: false,

Regeneration: Always,

RapidHealing: Always,

DamageFromSunlight: false,

DamageFromHolyPlaces: false
 

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Daggerfall Unity 14.1.png

https://github.com/Interkarma/daggerfall-unity/releases/tag/v0.14.1a-beta
 

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Too lazy to check if this has been solved but it is unplayable for me due to what they did to the quick travel system. Instead of just making a jump and having the appropriate amount of time passed it just drags the character overland in a fast forward kind of way.
The first time I absolutely didn't expect it and I fell off a giant rock I climbed up first and died, the second time the game just overloaded and crashed eventually. Maybe it couldn't take 50x speed but I didn't want to stare at it all day and it doesn't even show an ETA. Isn't there a way to put this back the way it was in the original? I'm not finding anything in the advanced options menu.
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
Too lazy to check if this has been solved but it is unplayable for me due to what they did to the quick travel system. Instead of just making a jump and having the appropriate amount of time passed it just drags the character overland in a fast forward kind of way.
The first time I absolutely didn't expect it and I fell off a giant rock I climbed up first and died, the second time the game just overloaded and crashed eventually. Maybe it couldn't take 50x speed but I didn't want to stare at it all day and it doesn't even show an ETA. Isn't there a way to put this back the way it was in the original? I'm not finding anything in the advanced options menu.
Are you playing the gogcut?
 

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Here's my overpowered character class. It does require save editing to get all the advantages and disadvantages. I run Levelup Adjuster and set the modification for stats to be 50. The stat maximum is set to 200.

Name: War Mage,

AdvancementMultiplier: 0.5,

HitPointsPerLevel: 30,

Strength: 50,

Intelligence: 50,

Willpower: 50,

Agility: 50,

Endurance: 50,

Personality: 50,

Speed: 50,

Luck: 50,

PrimarySkill1: Destruction,

PrimarySkill2: Restoration,

PrimarySkill3: LongBlade,

MajorSkill1: Alteration,

MajorSkill2: Mysticism,

MajorSkill3: Thaumaturgy,

MinorSkill1: CriticalStrike,

MinorSkill2: Dodging,

MinorSkill3: Illusion,

MinorSkill4: Jumping,

MinorSkill5: Running,

MinorSkill6: Streetwise,

Paralysis: Immune,

Magic: Immune,

Poison: Immune,

Fire: Immune,

Frost: Immune,

Shock: Immune,

Disease: Immune,

ShortBlades: Normal,

LongBlades: Normal,

HandToHand: Normal,

Axes: Normal,

BluntWeapons: Normal,

MissileWeapons: Normal,

UndeadAttackModifier: Normal,

DaedraAttackModifier: Normal,

HumanoidAttackModifier: Normal,

AnimalsAttackModifier: Normal,

DarknessPoweredMagery: ,

LightPoweredMagery: ,

ForbiddenMaterials: ,

ForbiddenShields: ,

ForbiddenArmors: ,

ForbiddenProficiencies: ,

ExpertProficiencies: ,

SpellPointMultiplier: Times_3_00,

SpellPointMultiplierValue: 3.0,

SpellAbsorption: Always,

NoRegenSpellPoints: false,

AcuteHearing: true,

Athleticism: true,

AdrenalineRush: false,

Regeneration: Always,

RapidHealing: Always,

DamageFromSunlight: false,

DamageFromHolyPlaces: false
Just pick critical weakness paralysis while being a high elf. Your level up speed increases a lot and your racial paralysis immunity trumps the critical weakness. An age old exploit that still works.

And yeah I got it from gog I believe.
 

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Just pick critical weakness paralysis while being a high elf. Your level up speed increases a lot and your racial paralysis immunity trumps the critical weakness. An age old exploit that still works.

There's no need for that since you can edit the save to create the perfect character.
 
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Too lazy to check if this has been solved but it is unplayable for me due to what they did to the quick travel system. Instead of just making a jump and having the appropriate amount of time passed it just drags the character overland in a fast forward kind of way.
The first time I absolutely didn't expect it and I fell off a giant rock I climbed up first and died, the second time the game just overloaded and crashed eventually. Maybe it couldn't take 50x speed but I didn't want to stare at it all day and it doesn't even show an ETA. Isn't there a way to put this back the way it was in the original? I'm not finding anything in the advanced options menu.
Just deactivate the mod entirely (it's called Travel Options). With the mod installed fast travel (the game's original mode) will be used if you chose "rest in Inns" (or how it's called in the game). If however you chose to "camp in the wilderness" or just click on a place somewhere in the green (an aspect I find awesome) it choses the mod's automated walking mode and brings you there.
If you use Travel Options together with Basic Roads it gives you an extensive network of roads and paths you can use. I'm just learning to play with it myself at the moment and while I see your point (you can fall off cliffs and sometimes you get stuck) it makes the world more believable in my opinion. There are also chances to run into beasts or highwaymen for example. Still buggy, but an interesting mod.
Performance: I noticed that the GOG cut is ridiculously hardware hungry. I'd suggest to throw out that DREAM-mod entirely. Playing with this mod enabled the game crashed for me too when I used the automated travel mode. Plus it looks ass.
 
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Thank you. I always camp out so that's definitely it.
Does the overworld actually have creatures now though? It used to be completely deserted apart from town NPCs, guard spawns when committing crimes, and a low chance of encounter when resting, but that was it.
 
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Thank you. I always camp out so that's definitely it.
Does the overworld actually have creatures now though? It used to be completely deserted apart from town NPCs, guard spawns when committing crimes, and a low chance of encounter when resting, but that was it.
Yes, there is a chance monsters or human enemies get spawned when you use the automated movement option (as far as I know there is also such a possibility without the mod). You can change that spawning possibility in the mod's settings. There are no neutral encounters as of yet though. I'd love that.
 

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"Basic Roads" along with "Hidden Map Locations" and "Quest Offer Locations" (mainly for "Prefer Nearby Quests" option) create an alternative for the default fast travel. Makes you open the map, use the compass and plan your route to the next quest destination. Nearby Quest thing helps to inherently fill the map (it's kinda cool to see your exploration progress), instead of ping-ponging all over the continent. Plus you actually get to travel in the wilderness and interact with random encounter system.

Speaking of random encounters, the vanilla ones are kinda lackluster and always hostile. There are a few mods on nexus that change those, I'm currently checking out "Warm Ashes".

For dungeons I really liked: "Drafty Secret Doors", you get a sound cue when you're near one, no more looking at walls; "Dungeon Loot", makes all those bookshelves/crates lootable; "Red Brick Replacer".
 

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You can use the free Steam version of Daggerfall to run the Unity version.
More details here: https://www.dfworkshop.net/using-steam-release-of-daggerfall-with-daggerfall-unity-updated/

Using Steam Release of Daggerfall with Daggerfall Unity – Updated!​

Posted on June 11, 2022 by Interkarma

The Steam release of Daggerfall has been updated and is now compatible with Daggerfall Unity “out of the box”. This is great news for Daggerfall players of all preferences. Not only is the classic release on Steam now patched for a better experience, it’s a free and convenient way to get the game files needed to run Daggerfall Unity.
These steps are for Windows only but you can adapt to another platform. You’ll just need to copy over the files installed by Steam to your platform of choice after step 1. Alternatively use the DaggerfallGameFiles method for a curated copy of game files compatible on all platforms.
 

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Has the GOG crew improved their version of Daggerfall Unity?
Or better off downloading Daggerfall Unity vanilla manually?



https://af.gog.com/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut?as=1649904300

Play a reimagined version of the all-time RPG classic from The Elder Scrolls series. Daggerfall Unity – GOG Cut brings this amazing experience to modern gamers. It has been made possible thanks to a whole team of passionate creators working under the banner of Daggerfall Unity.


  • GTX660 (or equivalent) and higher with 2GB of RAM
  • 4 GB
  • Intel i5 (or equivalent) and higher
  • Windows 7 or greater

Firstly, it runs EXTREMELY poorly. choppy and slow. and beyond that, strangely, the first character i created made it through the into cave no problem, but LITERALLY every single character after that cant even damage the imp and dies right there, every time, all the time. so the game itself is not very great either. on that first character that managed to make it through, the game was very ugly and a pain to navigate for the little bit i played, which mostly consisted on running to every single building in a city, because no one in town would be nice enough to give me directions to the one i needed. dont waste your time, pretend to play a game instead, it will be more fun.



GOG Cut comes with some problems.
1. I have two PCs, one a bit more powerful than the other. On the more powerful GOG Cut runs fine, even with slowdowns. On my other PC it just crashes. They both have plenty of RAM and 6GB/8GB GPU.
2. Loading times are ... abysmal on both systems.
3. It presents some challenges with mods and core updates. Not sure how/if this will be handled.
4. More difficult to personalise the cut
5. (this is personal) I would have included some additional mods that would have made a nice difference overall.

None of the problems seems to occur in my manual installation.
Still, I think this is a huge undertaking by GOG and people that never played Daggerfall should jump on it (if it runs on their systems...).


I don't think any thought put into this choosing particular collection of mods: it isn't particularly stable or performance-friendly. Frankly, you'd be better off just downloading Daggerfall Unity vanilla and piecing together mods as the need arises, because this "cut" does a disservice to the game.
https://af.gog.com/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut?as=1649904300
 

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https://www.reddit.com/r/daggerfallunity/comments/xj86lm/gog_cut_is_not_recommended_at_this_point/

GOG Cut is not recommended at this point​


I highly recommend not to get the GOG Cut. It was "fine" when it was released back in June, but GOG hasn't updated it since its release. Since then, Daggerfall Unity has been updated several times, receiving bug fixes and changes that mods released recently depend on. The mod scene had indeed been updated and changed since last June.
GOG Cut's version : 0.13.5
DFU's current version : 0.14.4
GOG also hasn't shown any sign of willing to update. The "curator" of the GOG Cut hasn't received any news either. I tried reaching to GOG, without success.
The advantage DFU has over the other Elder Scrolls titles is that the mods are easier to install and manage. It's simply a matter of dragging and dropping the mod file. You rarely have to worry about compatibility and, when you need to, they can be sorted automatically.
To install DFU : https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2360
Jwlar has compiled a list of mods by themes :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ToVGliR7oesLEaSlWrT23JS3I/edit#gid=1942120253

In the end, it's better to play a stable and updated release of DFU by installing it yourself and grabbing the mods that interest you easily, than playing an outdated one.
 

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Here's my overpowered character class. It does require save editing to get all the advantages and disadvantages. I run Levelup Adjuster and set the modification for stats to be 50. The stat maximum is set to 200.

Name: War Mage,

AdvancementMultiplier: 0.5,

HitPointsPerLevel: 30,

Strength: 50,

Intelligence: 50,

Willpower: 50,

Agility: 50,

Endurance: 50,

Personality: 50,

Speed: 50,

Luck: 50,

PrimarySkill1: Destruction,

PrimarySkill2: Restoration,

PrimarySkill3: LongBlade,

MajorSkill1: Alteration,

MajorSkill2: Mysticism,

MajorSkill3: Thaumaturgy,

MinorSkill1: CriticalStrike,

MinorSkill2: Dodging,

MinorSkill3: Illusion,

MinorSkill4: Jumping,

MinorSkill5: Running,

MinorSkill6: Streetwise,

Paralysis: Immune,

Magic: Immune,

Poison: Immune,

Fire: Immune,

Frost: Immune,

Shock: Immune,

Disease: Immune,

ShortBlades: Normal,

LongBlades: Normal,

HandToHand: Normal,

Axes: Normal,

BluntWeapons: Normal,

MissileWeapons: Normal,

UndeadAttackModifier: Normal,

DaedraAttackModifier: Normal,

HumanoidAttackModifier: Normal,

AnimalsAttackModifier: Normal,

DarknessPoweredMagery: ,

LightPoweredMagery: ,

ForbiddenMaterials: ,

ForbiddenShields: ,

ForbiddenArmors: ,

ForbiddenProficiencies: ,

ExpertProficiencies: ,

SpellPointMultiplier: Times_3_00,

SpellPointMultiplierValue: 3.0,

SpellAbsorption: Always,

NoRegenSpellPoints: false,

AcuteHearing: true,

Athleticism: true,

AdrenalineRush: false,

Regeneration: Always,

RapidHealing: Always,

DamageFromSunlight: false,

DamageFromHolyPlaces: false
Pick lots of weaknesses next time, fast leveling is really rewarding.
 

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Here's my overpowered character class. It does require save editing to get all the advantages and disadvantages. I run Levelup Adjuster and set the modification for stats to be 50. The stat maximum is set to 200.

Name: War Mage,

AdvancementMultiplier: 0.5,

HitPointsPerLevel: 30,

Strength: 50,

Intelligence: 50,

Willpower: 50,

Agility: 50,

Endurance: 50,

Personality: 50,

Speed: 50,

Luck: 50,

PrimarySkill1: Destruction,

PrimarySkill2: Restoration,

PrimarySkill3: LongBlade,

MajorSkill1: Alteration,

MajorSkill2: Mysticism,

MajorSkill3: Thaumaturgy,

MinorSkill1: CriticalStrike,

MinorSkill2: Dodging,

MinorSkill3: Illusion,

MinorSkill4: Jumping,

MinorSkill5: Running,

MinorSkill6: Streetwise,

Paralysis: Immune,

Magic: Immune,

Poison: Immune,

Fire: Immune,

Frost: Immune,

Shock: Immune,

Disease: Immune,

ShortBlades: Normal,

LongBlades: Normal,

HandToHand: Normal,

Axes: Normal,

BluntWeapons: Normal,

MissileWeapons: Normal,

UndeadAttackModifier: Normal,

DaedraAttackModifier: Normal,

HumanoidAttackModifier: Normal,

AnimalsAttackModifier: Normal,

DarknessPoweredMagery: ,

LightPoweredMagery: ,

ForbiddenMaterials: ,

ForbiddenShields: ,

ForbiddenArmors: ,

ForbiddenProficiencies: ,

ExpertProficiencies: ,

SpellPointMultiplier: Times_3_00,

SpellPointMultiplierValue: 3.0,

SpellAbsorption: Always,

NoRegenSpellPoints: false,

AcuteHearing: true,

Athleticism: true,

AdrenalineRush: false,

Regeneration: Always,

RapidHealing: Always,

DamageFromSunlight: false,

DamageFromHolyPlaces: false
Pick lots of weaknesses next time, fast leveling is really rewarding.

Why when I can save edit my character to get the same results?
 

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Here's my overpowered character class. It does require save editing to get all the advantages and disadvantages. I run Levelup Adjuster and set the modification for stats to be 50. The stat maximum is set to 200.

Name: War Mage,

AdvancementMultiplier: 0.5,

HitPointsPerLevel: 30,

Strength: 50,

Intelligence: 50,

Willpower: 50,

Agility: 50,

Endurance: 50,

Personality: 50,

Speed: 50,

Luck: 50,

PrimarySkill1: Destruction,

PrimarySkill2: Restoration,

PrimarySkill3: LongBlade,

MajorSkill1: Alteration,

MajorSkill2: Mysticism,

MajorSkill3: Thaumaturgy,

MinorSkill1: CriticalStrike,

MinorSkill2: Dodging,

MinorSkill3: Illusion,

MinorSkill4: Jumping,

MinorSkill5: Running,

MinorSkill6: Streetwise,

Paralysis: Immune,

Magic: Immune,

Poison: Immune,

Fire: Immune,

Frost: Immune,

Shock: Immune,

Disease: Immune,

ShortBlades: Normal,

LongBlades: Normal,

HandToHand: Normal,

Axes: Normal,

BluntWeapons: Normal,

MissileWeapons: Normal,

UndeadAttackModifier: Normal,

DaedraAttackModifier: Normal,

HumanoidAttackModifier: Normal,

AnimalsAttackModifier: Normal,

DarknessPoweredMagery: ,

LightPoweredMagery: ,

ForbiddenMaterials: ,

ForbiddenShields: ,

ForbiddenArmors: ,

ForbiddenProficiencies: ,

ExpertProficiencies: ,

SpellPointMultiplier: Times_3_00,

SpellPointMultiplierValue: 3.0,

SpellAbsorption: Always,

NoRegenSpellPoints: false,

AcuteHearing: true,

Athleticism: true,

AdrenalineRush: false,

Regeneration: Always,

RapidHealing: Always,

DamageFromSunlight: false,

DamageFromHolyPlaces: false
Pick lots of weaknesses next time, fast leveling is really rewarding.

Why when I can save edit my character to get the same results?
Well that's cheating. It gets boring quickly.
 

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The dungeons are like being trapped in the old windows labyrinth screensaver, but it has the layout of the pipes screensaver.

...and you love it like the rest of us, you wierdo
 

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