Dark Souls (and everything it influences) Sucks

[Skinwalker]

Salt and Sanctuary is bad

It's not tho.

 

[Odoryuk]

It's not tho.

Never played it, shouldn't have trusted OP

 

[Lyric Suite]

Now every game has at least dodge rolling mechanics

Name them.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Now every game has at least dodge rolling mechanics

Name them.

SKALD: Against the Black Priory
Baldur's Gate 3
Space Marine 2
Balatro
Slice & Dice
Battle Brothers
Jagged Alliance 3
Knights of the Chal... oh wait.

What are we talking about?

 

[Anonona]

Action games had had dodging for a long time now, and often times in the form of rolling. DMC1, MH, God of War and derivatives, etc had rolling in some form of another. Some with more i-frames other less so. It is wrong to blame Souls for what has been an staple mechanic of action games for a long while, particularly japanese action games, and even some other genres.

The real influences are the stamina bars (which existed on other games but Souls popularize) and the death mechanics. They are not bad by themselves, if implemented well (for example, Souls themselves and Nioh) but other times they are added just because souls did (Wukong, skills already have Mana and Cooldowns, having stamina also to balance them is just overkill and doesn't quite fit the premise of the game)

 

[Odoryuk]

Speaking about rolling mechanics, I really recommend to try Dicey Dungeons. It may look like something an average codexer would hate, but the game mechanics there are impeccable, lots of rolling

 

[mediocrepoet]

Speaking about rolling mechanics, I really recommend to try Dicey Dungeons. It may look like something an average codexer would hate, but the game mechanics there are impeccable, lots of rolling

Slice & Dice is a lot of fun as well. Maybe a bit on the easy side, but it's a nice time waster.

 

[jackofshadows]

And there it is. Elden Ring sold a lot, therefore, Souls is now shit.

And there you go, spinning my words again.

He's not. You're such a disingenuous little bitch it's unreal. I mean when luj1 who plays Morrowind and maybe Diablo 2 666 times in a row and only ever that tells everything else is shit is one thing but you yourself post how you play stuff like Fallout 4 and then at the same time have the audacity calling others shit-eaters? That's fucking rich.

Then again, there're codexers here who actually gave up on the current game industry and play only old stuff like Wizardry and maybe some indies like from Styg/VD or nothing at all and calling out goyslop 24x7 instead of touching it but not you who revels in it but then condemns others for doing that. I guess the "he played a game for 300h in order to tell how shit it was" meme was after you. Very prestigious, much respect.

 

[Drakortha]

Look everyone, the Oblivion remake is going to be a Souls-like, too!

https://www.eurogamer.net/elder-scr...surface-as-leaker-suggests-its-coming-in-june

I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

 

[Skinwalker]

I literally hate this.

 

[Jinn]

Look everyone, the Oblivion remake is going to be a Souls-like, too!

https://www.eurogamer.net/elder-scr...surface-as-leaker-suggests-its-coming-in-june

I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

Didn't read that shit you posted, but you're saying it's going to be better?!?! Very cool. An Oblivion without garbage level scaling, terrible combat, abysmal art direction, meaningful equipment progression, decent combat mechanics and actual challenge sounds like a huge improvement over the original. Cheers, guys!

 

[Drakortha]

Didn't read that shit you posted, but you're saying it's going to be better?!?! Very cool. An Oblivion without garbage level scaling, terrible combat, abysmal art direction, meaningful equipment progression, decent combat mechanics and actual challenge sounds like a huge improvement over the original. Cheers, guys!

You are so fucking gay.

 

[Jinn]

You are so fucking gay.

Great rebuttal, as usual. I was hesitant to feed this garbage thread, but the bait was too good.

 

[Drakortha]

Great rebuttal, as usual. I was hesitant to feed this garbage thread, but the bait was too good.

You couldn't help yourself because you're a Soulscuck who can't help but seethe when you see someone trash your favorite game. The agitation hidden beneath your words is palpable.

 

[Jinn]

You couldn't help yourself because your a Soulscuck. You can't help but seethe when you see someone trash your favorite game. The agitation hidden beneath your words is palpable.

Ah yes, by approaching it with humor. That illustrates how much I'm seething. While you, on the other hand, blast the forums with your vitriol in every avenue you're afforded. You are seething, and the impact of the butt-hurt nuke is visible from outer space. Take a step back, go for a hike, enjoy life. Stop wasting your time here whining about things you don't like and think others shouldn't like either.

 

[Drakortha]

the fanboy cries out in pain as he strikes you​

 

[NJClaw]

Look everyone, the Oblivion remake is going to be a Souls-like, too!

https://www.eurogamer.net/elder-scr...surface-as-leaker-suggests-its-coming-in-june

I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

If you interact in any way with game journalism and videogame news websites, YOU are part of the problem.

 

[d1r]

I still can't believe that you pay this idiot any form of attention, respectively post in a bait thread.

 

[Lord of Riva]

Why is this topic even so contentious ?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Look everyone, the Oblivion remake is going to be a Souls-like, too!

https://www.eurogamer.net/elder-scr...surface-as-leaker-suggests-its-coming-in-june

I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

I had to parse through the text to even get to the part. No idea how making blocking more "Souls-like" even changes things. In Souls, you click button, you block, same in Shitblivion lmao. Also, any actual influence from Souls would instantly make the game better to boot, which is another problem with claiming "everything is Souls". Like, you bemoan the fact games are getting better?

In either case, this the extend of the "influence" of Souls. Gaming journalists or devs name dropping Souls for the cred but without there being anything concrete or any actual meaning to the thing. Souls-like is used to describe everything from mild difficulty to some vague mechanic or concept. But when you look at the actual games there's really nothing in there.

 

[Drakortha]

I still can't believe that you pay this idiot any form of attention, respectively post in a bait thread.

Then don't post and go back to lurking all my threads while rate spamming my every post like you always do because you are a manchild.

 

[Drakortha]

Why is this topic even so contentious ?

Criticism is always contentious because the internet is a haven for fanboys who can't handle anything that challenges them. Larianfags, Crapcom fanboys, Soulcucks, Kingdom Cumtards. They're all the same. If you don't follow their belief that their game is the savior of their respective genre they become furious.

 

[Skinwalker]

Why is this topic even so contentious ?

Criticism is always contentious because the internet is a haven for fanboys who can't handle anything that challenges them. Larianfags, Crapcom fanboys, Soulcucks, Kingdom Cumtards. They're all the same. If you don't follow their belief that their game is the savior of their respective genre they become furious.

So far, only you have been furious itt.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Nice thread name change, but still not really accurate to what you've said itt, Dorkatha.

Try this: Dark Souls (and everything it influences, but not actually Dark Souls, actually mostly Salt and Sanctuary and some other stuff Fromsoft didnt make) Sucks

 

[Lyric Suite]

Why is this topic even so contentious ?

Criticism is always contentious because the internet is a haven for fanboys who can't handle anything that challenges them. Larianfags, Crapcom fanboys, Soulcucks, Kingdom Cumtards. They're all the same. If you don't follow their belief that their game is the savior of their respective genre they become furious.

You seem to have a problem with people liking games in general.

The fact your entire screed is based on the newfound popularity of Souls through Elden Ring and constant media name dropping demonstrates this is less about the games themselves and more about some kind of hipster sperg where nothing popular can be good.

What's even more contentious is that this seems to work retroactively as well. While Souls was always fairly successful, generally speaking it was never really mainstream before Elden Ring. It certainly wasn't pulling Witcher 3 or Call of Duty numbers. But suddenly, not only is Elden Ring slop but all Souls as well, even though they weren't slop when FromSoft was a small, niche company.

I guess in your view Dragon Dogma 2 is slop as well, right? After all, it sold a whole lot as well. Yet, the game is virtually identical to the original barring being worse in some places according to the opinion i've seen from people. Now was the original slop too? I mean can we define slop here? Because a game where it takes people literal hours to beat a single boss (apparently) can be many things but slop ain't one of them.