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People News David Gaider Complains about "Increasingly Toxic" Fan Feedback

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Pete Hines, talented? :lol:
He's the primary reason Bethesda games sell so well so, in his field, yes, he is very talented.

Everytime he's replied to one of my Tweets, he's always given me more reason to hate his company. As A PR guy his job is to win people over to increase sales. Him telling me flat out that he enjoyed Oblivion much more than Morrowind without trying to find some sort of sanctuary of middle ground leaves me to believe that I could do his job better than he could.
 

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Why would you waste time tweeting him anyway? Scratch that... why would you have a twitter account to begin with?
 

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Pretty poorly. The irony of your perceived obsession I have with you is that... you actually have it with me thinking every response I make to you (and there really aren't that many) is because I'm fixated on you. Hell I probably reply more to Skyway, guess I'm obsessed with him, too. If anyone says dumb shit like 'I tweet Pete Hines' it's going to garner a response no matter who wrote it. But I am flattered that I can feed your delusions of self-importance.
 

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And how long did it take you to come up with that response? About two and a half hours?

Sorry I don't monitor RPG Codex every minute?

Welcome to /ignore list #2 behind Mastermind.

:butthurt:

Bro, it's okay to ignore me on Codex but please don't ignore me on Twitter!!! I'll MySpace ya later, d00der.
 

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Soooo, I'm loving these deconstructive arguments over Gaider and Bioware,
Really I am. Makes me feel all tingly inside, like how it was when the 'dex was young and innocent.



Before I savaged her ass.

Anyway, all I can say is that, at this point, Gaider might want to think about throwing in the towel.
 

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Gaider? Who is this looser? He can't even sell his cRPGS homo-erotica dating simulators to 10 millions of consoltards like Bethpizda Does, unlike Pete and Tod the Evil PR wizards he's long time beneath my hate.

P.S. And His HK-47 sucks rusty bolt compared to HK-47 from KoTOR2 :kingcomrade:
 

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"Also haven't seen Sawyer act like an asshole even though there is a lot of Sawyer hate."

L0L You haven't seen some of his posts directed at me as of yet then, I take it. The one thing developers unite in is hitting me.

Then again, the Troiikians actually handled things reasonably well. Mr. Gaider and Mr. Sawyer did not. R00fles!


"but FFS companies like bioware have 99 disatisfied customers for every happy imbecile"

L0L Total bullshit made up 'facts'.


."S. And His HK-47 sucks rusty bolt compared to HK-47 from KoTOR2"

Considiidering KOTOR version is the very exact same HK hence a rip off you just proved how much of a moran ye are.
 

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Why not kill yourself and send your body through the mail. That would definitely make him shit his pants!
 

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fat, bald bastard

Absolutely wrong!

gaiderinterview_greywardens.jpg
Well, he looked kinda cool when he was fat and bald. It's a shame that he had complexes about it and turned into that sad caricature.

Anyway, I'd just like to point out that even the old Bioware games were not widely accepted on the codex back then. There were far less people openly liking them (including BG2) than there are Obsidianites (Alpha Protocol) now. So Gaider and Bioware were already getting lots of flak before they went dating sim button awesome console shooter. But it was the time when they decided to go down that road. Before they could expect some PR and insightful fan feedback by posting here. Even if they got some vitriol burns along the way.
Gaider did not only leave the kitchen because it became too hot (although that was a convenient excuse). He also left because he realized the didn't need this kitchen if all he wanted to sell were twinkies.
All that said, if I were a dev I wouldn't let on about it on the codex. I wouldn't expect to be treated any better than normal posters, but I'd realize that I'd have a target painted on me that might make sensible discussion even more far and inbetween than normal on the codex.
 
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"Also haven't seen Sawyer act like an asshole even though there is a lot of Sawyer hate."

."S. And His HK-47 sucks rusty bolt compared to HK-47 from KoTOR2"

Considiidering KOTOR version is the very exact same HK hence a rip off you just proved how much of a moran ye are.

I assume you haven't played KOTOR 2 then.
 

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Everytime he's replied to one of my Tweets, he's always given me more reason to hate his company. As A PR guy his job is to win people over to increase sales. Him telling me flat out that he enjoyed Oblivion much more than Morrowind without trying to find some sort of sanctuary of middle ground leaves me to believe that I could do his job better than he could.
It's a personal twitter account, opinions expressed are his alone and don't reflect the company, blah blah etc.

Regardless Bioware should spend less time looking at Skyrim as a game and more time looking at how Bethesda handled Skyrim's marketing. They managed to ship over 10 million without explicitly seeking dudebros and very few people give a shit that you can get gay married and even start a family with that DLC.
 

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Everytime he's replied to one of my Tweets, he's always given me more reason to hate his company. As A PR guy his job is to win people over to increase sales. Him telling me flat out that he enjoyed Oblivion much more than Morrowind without trying to find some sort of sanctuary of middle ground leaves me to believe that I could do his job better than he could.
It's a personal twitter account, opinions expressed are his alone and don't reflect the company, blah blah etc.

Regardless Bioware should spend less time looking at Skyrim as a game and more time looking at how Bethesda handled Skyrim's marketing. They managed to ship over 10 million without explicitly seeking dudebros and very few people give a shit that you can get gay married and even start a family with that DLC.

My question is, did Skyrim really sell over ten million due to marketing, or because Bethesda is the only player in the industry making this type of game?

When you have a monopoly over an entire subgenre, your entire fanbase has nothing to do but queue up and wait to buy your next game.
 

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My question is, did Skyrim really sell over ten million due to marketing, or because Bethesda is the only player in the industry making this type of game?

When you have a monopoly over an entire subgenre, your entire fanbase has nothing to do but queue up and wait to buy your next game.
KoA: Reckoning and Dragon's Dogma are similar enough, both "only" sold around a couple million. It's Bethesda.
 

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My question is, did Skyrim really sell over ten million due to marketing, or because Bethesda is the only player in the industry making this type of game?

When you have a monopoly over an entire subgenre, your entire fanbase has nothing to do but queue up and wait to buy your next game.
KoA: Reckoning and Dragon's Dogma are similar enough, both "only" sold around a couple million. It's Bethesda.

Similar enough? I'm not sure if the public perceived them as similar enough. My impression is that the guy on the street thinks only Bethesda makes these types of games.

Of course, you could say that's a marketing failure too. Failure to market your game as an Elder Scrolls clone. :lol:
 

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Everytime he's replied to one of my Tweets, he's always given me more reason to hate his company. As A PR guy his job is to win people over to increase sales. Him telling me flat out that he enjoyed Oblivion much more than Morrowind without trying to find some sort of sanctuary of middle ground leaves me to believe that I could do his job better than he could.
It's a personal twitter account, opinions expressed are his alone and don't reflect the company, blah blah etc.

Regardless Bioware should spend less time looking at Skyrim as a game and more time looking at how Bethesda handled Skyrim's marketing. They managed to ship over 10 million without explicitly seeking dudebros and very few people give a shit that you can get gay married and even start a family with that DLC.

My question is, did Skyrim really sell over ten million due to marketing, or because Bethesda is the only player in the industry making this type of game?

When you have a monopoly over an entire subgenre, your entire fanbase has nothing to do but queue up and wait to buy your next game.

The genre doesn't sell all that well. Few of my friends even know what Risen or Arkania or shit like that is.
 

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