more like Codex will split between the moderates (fags) who think every kickstarted games is Good For What It Is, and the extremists who are gonna party like it's 2009.
I am, without a doubt, the most vocal proponent of how (and why) turn-based combat automatically = real/better RPG, to the point where I have caused butthurt on people with my "lol it's not turn-based so it's shit" and caused them to knee-jerk react and insult turn-based combat.
Having said all of that shit: the TB combat i've seen featured in the combat videos? looks unbelievably boring.
I highly, highly doubt the TB combat will be anywhere near a saving grace for this game. All hope rests in the writing, quest design and area design, itemization and in the characterizatoin of its NPCs.
Words cannot describe how shitty the combat is, I'd rather stab my eye than actually encounter it. UI is equally bad, but this game isn't the sum of its parts, it's the sum of its dialogue plus the shitty bits you have to deal with to get to the sweet sweet dialogue.
People like to brush over the fact that Torment did in fact have a good core gameplay base that was Infinity Engine light and large sections of mandatory unavoidable combat. It's not a minor part of its success that the gameplay and the non dialogue elements were actually pretty good overall, it wasn't the edgy cult classic that it has become it was a solid IE game with good combat once upon a time. UI is dated but is still a product of its time. It makes me worried for this game's success in the wider market but I'm sure the ejournalism shills will lap it up just like they did PoE, I just don't see it appealing outside teh super hardcore fans if the combat is the current piece of shite.
If the game holds up as expected it would certainly be incline, but any sequel, IF torment sold well enough, would have to ditch Numenera and rework the entire gameplay because they did a shocking job this time around based on the vertical slice.
Of course the Codex will survive. I am 100% ready for TON to be a pile of steaming bovine manure. My body is ready. Bring it.