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Diablo IV

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Wulfric Pinewood, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. LizardWizard Arbiter

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    I see they added raid bosses :kingcomrade:
     
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  2. TheSentinel Arcane

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    So you're okay with eating shit as long as you're not paying for it? Seems like a weird rule but ok
     
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  3. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    Diablo 1 was the only great Diablo game.

    D2 was okay, nowhere near as good as the first.

    D3 sucked.

    D4 will suck.
     
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  4. Meredoth Magister

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    In nutshell
    Diablo 1 - ARPG
    Diablo 1 HELLFIRE - ARPG
    Diablo 2 classic - ARPG
    Diablo 2 LOD - Arpg / loot hunter hybrid
    Diablo 3 - Pure barbie dressing game
    Diablo 3 RoS - Barbie dressing game where at least the loot is not awful
    Diablo 4 - ???
     
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  5. Viata Arcane

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    Enjoy your always online mode boss:
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  6. Viata Arcane

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  7. deranged crackwhore and ban me fed up taxi driver Patron

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    Looks ok so far.
     
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  8. Yosharian Magister

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    PoE is a free game.
     
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  9. Yosharian Magister

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    Lol it's just a cinematic trailer? No actual gameplay? What the fuck is Blizzard doing, lmao

    Oh never mind I see the gameplay videos now
     
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  10. TheSentinel Arcane

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    As everyone knows, it's not gay to take dick up the ass if you don't pay for it.

    Some details from interviews on stream:
    • Hardcore mode will be there.
    • 5 classes confirmed for launch, and more will be introduced through expansions. Cosmetics, stash, etc, can come in the form of microtransactions.
    • Want to make crafting a bigger thing in D4. Still a work in progress. Two goals for crafting - 1) Want to make sure gathering is fully integrated into the open world. 2) If you go and collect recipes and materials and spend time to craft something that it is worth your while.
    • Max level is currently 40. Could change.
    • There is no shoulder slot in the game. It's a visual change, and if they need more item slots for mechanical reasons, they can do that separately.
    • Trying out different types of legendaries that enable support builds.
    • Goal for seasons is to change up items as much as possible. Want new challenges in dungeons, new monster affixes, and want the season to feel like a new experience with new things to explore.
    • No diminishing returns on CCs. Certain skills make you unstoppable so you can break out of that CC. Can customize character to be more resistant against CCs.
    • Achievements are planned.
    • Charms are NOT currently in the works.
    • Talent trees will be expanded upon in expansions, but to what degree, they don't know yet.
    • Trying to be more "strict" with gold for players. Can spend gold to gamble like with Kadala.
    • On Paragon levels - They have a philosophy of wanting you to be able to log in for 15, 30, or 60 minutes (or however long) and get something accomplished, but as far as specific implementation of paragon levels, it's undecided.
    • There are hundreds of dungeons in the world
    • On end game - They want there to be a variety of activities. World bosses are one example. Key dungeons are another. Key dungeons are inspired by greater rifts and will be another end game activity. Different system than greater rifts. Key dungeons don't scale infinitely, but scale to an extent that there is no concern about reaching the max.
    • At max level, you get keys, and those keys will be for a specific dungeon. The key when used transforms the dungeon into a max level dungeon and has a rank on it, and that rank increases the difficulty of the dungeon. The key has affixes on it, the affixes add mechanics to the dungeon, boss fights, etc.
    • One of the affixes is a lightning pulse obelisk, it follows you through dungeon. You can’t kill it and it releases lightning, so you have to keep moving. It’s an object that chases you through the dungeon and adds challenge to the experience. Affixes change the way a dungeon plays.
    • Legendary items further allow you to modify skills to customize play style. Allow you to further your skills/talents more than you would through the trees/skills alone. Hundreds of legendary items being designed. More about modding existing talents and skills than adding flat damage.
    • There are gear sets. Sets gives the ability to live out a fantasy. Legendaries are as or more powerful than sets. Sets are a stepping stone to more powerful legendaries.
    • They are looking at bringing transmog into the game.
    • No auction house.
    • Haven't settled on a specific trading system yet. They want you to mainly get items from killing monsters. Exploring possible systems to introduce trading, learning towards 3 categories of items – 1) consumables, mats, random armor, etc. 2) items that can be traded once and then become soulbound. 3) And then some items that are bound on pickup. Those 3 categories for items, but they are taking feedback on this.
    • Crafting – Definitely going to be taking crafting forward into Diablo IV and they want to expand on it from Diablo III. End game will be about item modification. Crafting will incorporate the world – going out and getting things – slaying monsters, finding something rare in the world, etc. Won’t be anything as in depth as PoE however.
    • Seasons – They want to modify the most powerful items from season to season so the metagame shifts, along with adding in new items.
    • Content release will most likely occur through expansions.
    • On talent trees – taking feedback on this. Talent trees in the demo are as they currently stand in the game. Quinn noted they look simple and shallow. They want legendary items to add a lot of that depth to the talents. All of it is still being developed.
    • On monetitization – D4 will be available as a base game. There will be expansions. Cosmetics will be available in some form as microtransactions.
    • You can modify keybinds.
     
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  11. TheSentinel Arcane

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    https://www.diablofans.com/news/49145-diablo-community-group-q-a
     
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  12. Leechmonger Arbiter

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    So they're adding something like maps.
     
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  13. Yosharian Magister

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    It's really hilarious that you see fit to criticize Path of Exile, which is a free game and costs literally nothing to play through and enjoy (the premium stuff is actually optional as opposed to some games where you end up forced to buy shit) and still manages to shit all over Diablo 3 from a great height in literally every aspect.

    You can play and enjoy POE 100% without paying a fucking dime (I know because I have completed the game without spending anything on it and it was an absolute blast, as opposed to Diablo 3 which is a terrible game).

    Meanwhile Blizzard is coming in their pants at the thought of all the ways they can harvest money from braindead fanboys and other stupid consumers from the next installment of Diablo. This company makes me sick.
     
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  14. S.torch Savant

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  15. CyberModuled Savant

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    What part of my sentence did it come off as me being complacent with PoE being online only in any way? Also shockingly no, it really isn't eating shit if I don't actually have to pay for it for simply trying it in comparison to giving money for a "live service" product that not only has a base fee to pay to play the game itself but along with whatever future cosmetic micro transactions they put in on launch and/or down the line. You come off as reaching of you have to immediately say I'm "eating shit" for trying something (hell, I don't even have many hours in PoE or Diablo 3).
     
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  16. TheSentinel Arcane

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    I didn't criticize PoE. I implicitly said anyone criticizing D4 for "online only" but eating up PoE's poorly coded forced online only mode is a hypocrite. "B-but PoE is free!" isn't relevant to the online-only discussion. It would be if we were talking about MTX.
     
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  17. Yosharian Magister

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    LMAO that this is listed as a positive thing in 2019 in a game from Blizzard fucking Entertainment, the company that made Diablo 2. Kill me now.
     
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  18. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    Guys, guys, calm down.

    POE and D3 both suck.
     
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  19. BlackAdderBG Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    Multiplayer games are online only and you eat that shit. Checkmate.

    Watching streams now and don't see what people praise about the art and atmosphere, it's 99% same art and colors as D3, just with more splatters of blood and filter that make everything grey. :lol:
     
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  20. Sykar Arcane

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    Wait, they still restrict it to a pitiful amount of 6 skills? That was D3 worst mistake. That they keep this shit is major :decline:.
     
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  21. United Nations Legion

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    I'm surprised they included Lilith.

    Sigils for instance, would be more than welcome:

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    There's a whole lot more material on demonology and satanism than what's covered by the Judeo-Christian perspective.

    Even LaVeyan satanism is a far cry from what present civilization believes to be true when it comes to the devil and devil worship.

    I watched last year's "scariest" horror movie, Hereditary, about the demon Paimon, and was shocked by the amount of information that I uncovered through a quick Google search.

    There are texts predating LaVey and Crowley that stretch back hundreds of years... Grimoires used by legit black magic practitioners, alchemists, etc.

    Now, fast forward to present times, and websites like www.joyofsatan.org keep the fantasy that is modern satanism alive.

    What's even more bizarre is that modern satanists don't depict their god like the Bible does; Lucifer and his demons are bronze, muscular, attractive and if I didn't know any better, resemble angels not demons.

    Nothing like the monsters of Diablo.

    SOURCE
     
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  22. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    My favorite part about POE was actually nothing related to the game itself. It was to do with the community.

    There is one guy in particular, I can't recall his name, but I remember there was one guy who was possibly posting from a mental asylum. He spent thousands upon thousands of dollars to support GGG and in doing so got to craft unique items. I think it was like, three or so swords he designed but they were extremely fucking stupid items that their own lore to them that had nothing to do with anything. They had this VERY idiotic backstory and to get the final sword you had to do this convoluted shit that would have made the Nintendo Power Hotline edge itself into a cum shower from how arcane it was.

    Eventually though, someone or some people did figure it out and made this mythical sword... and it fucking SUCKED. Like, it was pure dogshit. Some dude spent like ten grand of real money, real money he could have spent on anything else. Think what you can do with ten grand. Take a trip all around Europe, build a PC for a decade to come, fuck five porn starlets at once, go to numerous sporting events with great seats, almost anything... and this guy spent all that money to make three swords that all sucked cock and nobody ever used in the end.

    If there is one thing I thank POE for, it's that. I hope somebody that has a long history with that game knows what I'm talking about and can link to it so people here can take part in the sadistic joy I did in reading through it all. God bless weirdos.
     
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  23. Yosharian Magister

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    Nobody is 'eating up' POE's poor netcode, though. It's just something you have to put up with when you pay NOTHING to play a game.
     
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  24. Yosharian Magister

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    Idiots and their money are easily parted
     
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  25. Meredoth Magister

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    D3 sucks more than PoE.
     
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