Diablo IV

[mediocrepoet]

Mm. Sure, whatever. Don't buy it then.

How's that mentality working out? Did you buy horse armor? If so, fuck you.

I bought it seven times and deleted it each time just to ensure that Todd Howard made his bonus that year. Spiting you was just a bonus.

 

[Ryzer]

The only thing troublesome and somewhat forced to buy in POE is more inventory stash to store your trash.

 

[Fedora Master]

DIABLO
Cool game huh

 

[flyingjohn]

Path of Exile isn't free

So i can't just get the game for 0 bucks?
I can't play any content without paying money?

The stash tabs are the box price

Never needed them.It is annoying but they are qol,not actual gated content.And if you have no interest in endgame they are practically useless.
Before you bitch about casuals,that is the majority of the playerbase.

Not even Activision would have the balls to charge what GGG sells their crap for

Activison charges for cut up content and requires you buy a season pass and not even that covers future content.
You are delusional.

Important to note that in Call of Duty or Diablo, you don't need to buy MTX to look decent

Ah,that is the problem. You are a cometicFag,well,that is your problem bro.

In Path of Exile you either grind multiple leagues worth of challenges for cosmetics, swipe your credit card or look like absolute shit during every playthrough

Oh no,my isometric arpg game where you 90% of the screen are effects doesn't allow my character to look good.
Garbox made a killing on people like you,idiots buying cosmetics in a fps game.

How's that mentality working out? Did you buy horse armor? If so, fuck you.

The irony is you would be perfectly fine with horse armor if it was free.

 

[Alex]

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Important to note that in Call of Duty or Diablo, you don't need to buy MTX to look decent

Ah,that is the problem. You are a cometicFag,well,that is your problem bro.

In Path of Exile you either grind multiple leagues worth of challenges for cosmetics, swipe your credit card or look like absolute shit during every playthrough

Oh no,my isometric arpg game where you 90% of the screen are effects doesn't allow my character to look good.
Garbox made a killing on people like you,idiots buying cosmetics in a fps game.
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I dunno, I don't think that makes sense. It is true you can't look decent in PoE without buying cosmetic DLC... but you can't look decent by buying it either, so I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.

 

[Kjaska]

yOu CaN't LoOk GoOd In PoE uNlEsS yOu SpEnD mEgA mOnEy REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3289342

The game has been releasing new uniques with cool 3D Art for years now. This notion that you can't look good without mtx is an old, reddit style, argument. BTW competitions like these is also a way to earn some free mtx sets.

If you're not willing to participate, not willing to buy a supporter pack which gives you a free set on top of the points, not willing to put in the effort to get your challenges (which are laughably easy in trade league), not willing to buy the cheap skin transfer consumables AND you still expect to look cool, then you're just a greedy, entitled retard.

For all their supposed greed, GGG hasn't stopped putting their stash tabs on sale, hasn't started selling max level boosts, campaign skips, auto-loot pets and revive tokens. Shit that has proven to be extremely profitable in the chinese version. Shit that is 1000% going to be in D4 at launch already.

 

[ADL]

And without (consumable) skin transfers you're never going to have a cohesive look and build. In the long run those "cheap" skin transfers will cost more than their obscenely priced MTX which is $87.50 on the low end and veering towards $400 on the high-end. Shut the fuck up you literal retard.

Fake news? Are the skin transfers not in fact consumable? Are the MTX sets not in fact $80+ dollars? PoEtards will defend anything.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

remember when you could just buy a game and that was it?
good times

 

[J1M]

remember when you could just buy a game and that was it?
good times

And maybe even think about the game while playing instead of the shop.

Kjaska confirmed as a furry who thinks werewolves look "good".

 

[Alex]

yOu CaN't LoOk GoOd In PoE uNlEsS yOu SpEnD mEgA mOnEy REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I will admit I had no idea you could become Earthworm Jim in PoE.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

@Kjaska confirmed as a furry who thinks werewolves look "good".

even worse, he is -- and may Jesus forgive me for typing this word out -- a german.

 

[Immortal]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23827587/developer-update-closed-end-game-beta-draws-near

Can you ... feel the ... excitement ...

More like excrement..

 

[Decado]

I wrote about this today but I think the success of this game will come down to one question, which is whether or note it is more like Diablo 2, or Diablo Immortal. It is already clear me to that it is NOT like Diablo 3, which I think is the best move. Just the addition (or should I say, reintroduction) of skill trees is a step in the absolute right direction. If they can get it closer to D2 -- where multiple builds per character are actually viable and fun to play, instead of D3's race to a single, best build per character -- they'll do alright.

Also I'm less concerned about obscene monetization because 1) they've already said monetization is cosmetic only and 2) they're smart enough to know that monetization ala Diablo Immortal is really aimed degenerate Chinese and Brazilian mobile gamblers who cannot help themselves. It doesn't fly nearly as well in the US market. D4 is supposed to be a marquee PC/Console title that will carry them into the second half of the 2020s. Overwatch 2 isn't looking to great, and it's not like the company has a deep stable of IPs to call upon. They have to get this right. Maybe that fear will get them thinking straight.

 

[Alex]

I wished they made it more like Diablo 1, actually.

 

[Kjaska]

I remember tinkering with all kinds of builds on my own in offline in D2, but online I only remember 1 or at most 2 viable build people would run per class.

Amazon: Buriza/Windforce or Javelins
Sorceress: some lightning build or some frost sphere/nova build (fire? lol)
Barbarian: WW
Paladin: Hammerdin
Necro: Necro
Assassin: lol
Druid: lol (volcano?)

I remember a friend of mine constantly being hyped about some cool build idea and telling me about it and I would just always cringe, because I knew it would 100% suck. When I think back on D2, build diversity isn't one of those warm thoughts I get about it.

 

[Decado]

I remember tinkering with all kinds of builds on my own in offline in D2, but online I only remember 1 or at most 2 viable build people would run per class.

Amazon: Buriza/Windforce or Javelins
Sorceress: some lightning build or some frost sphere/nova build (fire? lol)
Barbarian: WW
Paladin: Hammerdin
Necro: Necro
Assassin: lol
Druid: lol (volcano?)

I remember a friend of mine constantly being hyped about some cool build idea and telling me about it and I would just always cringe, because I knew it would 100% suck. When I think back on D2, build diversity isn't one of those warm thoughts I get about it.

Having just replayed the remaster, I definitely recall multiple, viable builds per class. Barbarians had whirly barbs, frenzy barbs, and so on. Druids were viable through spell casting, or wolf/bear runs, paladins had a bunch of different specs, necros had lagromancers, bonermancers, and so on. The point (for me at any rate, your mileage may vary) was that each was viable for end game content. There was usually a "best" build for each class, but the difference to say D3 was that in D3, you practically need the "best" build to deal with the end game.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Kjaska You're sorely mistaken on the Assassin. Really powerful and fun class with lots of nice little tricks. Didn't need keys for locked chests either.

Pretty much all of the classes could be built many ways. I had no shortage of builds. The only classes that I found inherently weak were Necromancer and Druid. Both playable, just inferior.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Diablo 2 was one of the worst things to happen to the genre.

 

[ArchAngel]

I wrote about this today but I think the success of this game will come down to one question, which is whether or note it is more like Diablo 2, or Diablo Immortal. It is already clear me to that it is NOT like Diablo 3, which I think is the best move. Just the addition (or should I say, reintroduction) of skill trees is a step in the absolute right direction. If they can get it closer to D2 -- where multiple builds per character are actually viable and fun to play, instead of D3's race to a single, best build per character -- they'll do alright.

Also I'm less concerned about obscene monetization because 1) they've already said monetization is cosmetic only and 2) they're smart enough to know that monetization ala Diablo Immortal is really aimed degenerate Chinese and Brazilian mobile gamblers who cannot help themselves. It doesn't fly nearly as well in the US market. D4 is supposed to be a marquee PC/Console title that will carry them into the second half of the 2020s. Overwatch 2 isn't looking to great, and it's not like the company has a deep stable of IPs to call upon. They have to get this right. Maybe that fear will get them thinking straight.

From that 40min leak combat seems to look/play way more like D3 and D2. And in the end it comes down to that.

 

[Decado]

Diablo 2 was one of the worst things to happen to the genre.

Why? Also, what genre? Do you mean action RPGs? Because I feel like apart from Diablo 1, Diablo 2 started the genre. I could be off on the history though.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Diablo 2 was one of the worst things to happen to the genre.

Why? Also, what genre? Do you mean action RPGs? Because I feel like apart from Diablo 1, Diablo 2 started the genre. I could be off on the history though.

most of the worst aspects in RPGs can be traced directly back to diablo 2

 

[HereticGuy]

Diablo 2 was one of the worst things to happen to the genre.

Although I had loads of fun back in the day, I have to agree with your statement. I know there are people who likes hack'n'slash gameplay with flashy screens and one hitting mobs. More power to them, there should be different genres for different folks. But I don't like how "Diablo II on steroids" style became the norm for all aRPGs. Diablo 1 evolved in the wrong direction, for my taste.

Diablo II is like Half-Life, in terms of impact on the genre. I hate how the realism / cinematic narration became the focus in FPS and how they ditched abstract / detailed maps with secrets and shit. I understand why these games are liked; but fuck them just for their negative impact on the industry.

 

[J1M]

I wrote about this today but I think the success of this game will come down to one question, which is whether or note it is more like Diablo 2, or Diablo Immortal. It is already clear me to that it is NOT like Diablo 3, which I think is the best move. Just the addition (or should I say, reintroduction) of skill trees is a step in the absolute right direction. If they can get it closer to D2 -- where multiple builds per character are actually viable and fun to play, instead of D3's race to a single, best build per character -- they'll do alright.

Also I'm less concerned about obscene monetization because 1) they've already said monetization is cosmetic only and 2) they're smart enough to know that monetization ala Diablo Immortal is really aimed degenerate Chinese and Brazilian mobile gamblers who cannot help themselves. It doesn't fly nearly as well in the US market. D4 is supposed to be a marquee PC/Console title that will carry them into the second half of the 2020s. Overwatch 2 isn't looking to great, and it's not like the company has a deep stable of IPs to call upon. They have to get this right. Maybe that fear will get them thinking straight.

From that 40min leak combat seems to look/play way more like D3 and D2. And in the end it comes down to that.

It's literally a Diablo 3 mod.

The break meter is nice, but I'm sure they lifted that from Monster Hunter or something.

 

[Dadd]

I wrote about this today but I think the success of this game will come down to one question, which is whether or note it is more like Diablo 2, or Diablo Immortal. It is already clear me to that it is NOT like Diablo 3, which I think is the best move. Just the addition (or should I say, reintroduction) of skill trees is a step in the absolute right direction. If they can get it closer to D2 -- where multiple builds per character are actually viable and fun to play, instead of D3's race to a single, best build per character -- they'll do alright.

Also I'm less concerned about obscene monetization because 1) they've already said monetization is cosmetic only and 2) they're smart enough to know that monetization ala Diablo Immortal is really aimed degenerate Chinese and Brazilian mobile gamblers who cannot help themselves. It doesn't fly nearly as well in the US market. D4 is supposed to be a marquee PC/Console title that will carry them into the second half of the 2020s. Overwatch 2 isn't looking to great, and it's not like the company has a deep stable of IPs to call upon. They have to get this right. Maybe that fear will get them thinking straight.

The 40 minute video makes it seem a lot like D3 with better graphics and a shit-colored filter.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Diablo 2 was one of the worst things to happen to the genre.

Why? Also, what genre? Do you mean action RPGs? Because I feel like apart from Diablo 1, Diablo 2 started the genre. I could be off on the history though.

most of the worst aspects in RPGs can be traced directly back to diablo 2

Like....? And I'm actually curious what you think are the "worst aspects" in RPGs.