Diablo IV

[Reever]

There’s no reason not to play D2R if you just want to play D2

Unless you enjoy playing games at 25 fps

 

[Fedora Master]

Aaaaand we've reached that point in a Codex thread where people slowly realize that a bad game is, in fact, bad.

 

[likash]

I saw a beta playtrought and it looks mediocre at best.
The cinematics are very good and i always wondered why Blizzard does not make an animated series. They are very good at cinematics.

 

[Justinian]

I'm fine with limiting skill slots although i think 8 is the sweet spot like in Guild Wars and controllers can do 10 (14 with dpad) so it's not a good excuse. D2's one point wonders were bad design.

It was never 1 point, at least 2 since on Hell all enemies had some elemental immunity.

What are you talking about?

1 point wonder = you put 1 point in one skill then forget about it because it's not worth more and + to skills will raise it to a decent level anyway.

Those were side skills like Teleport or Mana Shield. They do not matter.

They obv matter because nobody would put points in them otherwise. There's no real sacrifice or choice, if you're a sorc you're gonna get teleport/static charge, if you're a pally you're gonna get holy shield + maybe some utility auras, if you're a zon you're gonna get the dodges + pierce/AR/crit, etc. On top of that synergies made you spend points on skills you'd never otherwise use and thus discourage you from investing in any of the skills that you actually use.

 

[Dadd]

Why does teleport not matter?

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

D2R only costs 13 dollars when it is on sale, it is up to you if you buy it or not.

Wtf when was it on sale

D2R is on sale all the time on battle.net

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/diabloiiresurrecteddiabloiiresurrected/history/

 

[Crispy]

I downloaded all 85GB of the open beta but I forgot to try it before it expired yesterday...

 

[fizzelopeguss]

after playing the beta all I can say is:

At first the game is impressive in mood and art style but it all vanishes the moment you encounter the Naryelle character and then the game reveals itself as a high fantasy bullshit, with Blizzard's trademark.

Yep, rolled my eyes. They can't help themselves, Leah from d3 all over again.

I saw a beta playtrought and it looks mediocre at best.
The cinematics are very good and i always wondered why Blizzard does not make an animated series. They are very good at cinematics.

Their overwrought dialogue barely carries them through a couple of minutes long animation.

 

[Yosharian]

What's the best way to do a single player good ol' D2 run or two for old time's sake? Ignore the D2R thing?

Somebody seems to be running a version swticher - which patch should I use? I can't remember that from 2002 or whatever.
https://github.com/fearedbliss/Cactus

https://pathofdiablo.com/

Does it have any gfx/resolution improvements

 

[Daedalos]

Y'all got any more of that diablo 4 launch?

Fuck me the wait time is gonna be absolutely shit.

I want the full game nao

 

[Reinhardt]

why?

 

[DeepOcean]

The issue of why so many people are disappointed is because they are PoE/D2R no lifers, saw the good change in art style and some designs that seemed like throwbacks and thought Blizzard was back on the game of trying to recover the glory days and try to lead again on the ARPG genre, the position it lost to PoE after the Diablo III disaster.

What they dont understand is that Blizzard wants to steal PoE's casual audience to form its core audience for player retention and steal Losk Ark's casual audience to combine with Diablo III's potential 30 million people audience exploiting the fact that many potential players despise Lost Ark Weaboo style. It is targetting the two big boys on their weak points, weak brand name (Lost Ark) and obscure systems (PoE).

So, their strategy is not to steal the PoE spreadsheeters 5000hs no lifers but to do the same thing WoW did to Everquest and company, steal their dissatisfied casual audience until both games end dead or zombie MMOs on life support with a miniscule core audience. Basically repeat WoW on the ARPG genre, Blizzard basically does this on every market it tries to enter since WoW, not bring something new but how to exploit the weakness of the rivals, no wonder it is associated with decline but the strategy works.

The irony is that Blizzard will ignore all those streamers negative "feedback" if it goes against their main goal and the same streamers will be streaming Diablo IV nonstop and not PoE or D2R despite its systems being inferior if the game gets a big audience that they can profit on. They will also shut up about its failures pretty quick to not alienate the new audience.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Yep, rolled my eyes. They can't help themselves, Leah from d3 all over again.

Even worse, she looks like Nenio from Wrath of the Righteous :O

 

[Reinhardt]

imagine having to paint act maps each season for bonus shit.

 

[Yosharian]

Everybody on YT is bitching about Druid and saying it's terrible, the leveling experience is awful, etc. Like, not really? I found it challenging but it wasn't that bad. Some skills need tweaking that's all. I enjoyed the challenge tbh.

The content grind is so fucking hyperbolic sometimes.

You're not meant to be facerolling your way through content at level 25.

It's Necro and Sorc that need to be reined in. Asmon was talking about his faceroll corpse explosion build and saying like, 'best experience ever'. It just looks boring.

 

[ArchAngel]

The issue of why so many people are disappointed is because they are PoE/D2R no lifers, saw the good change in art style and some designs that seemed like throwbacks and thought Blizzard was back on the game of trying to recover the glory days and try to lead again on the ARPG genre, the position it lost to PoE after the Diablo III disaster.

What they dont understand is that Blizzard wants to steal PoE's casual audience to form its core audience for player retention and steal Losk Ark's casual audience to combine with Diablo III's potential 30 million people audience exploiting the fact that many potential players despise Lost Ark Weaboo style. It is targetting the two big boys on their weak points, weak brand name (Lost Ark) and obscure systems (PoE).

So, their strategy is not to steal the PoE spreadsheeters 5000hs no lifers but to do the same thing WoW did to Everquest and company, steal their dissatisfied casual audience until both games end dead or zombie MMOs on life support with a miniscule core audience. Basically repeat WoW on the ARPG genre, Blizzard basically does this on every market it tries to enter since WoW, not bring something new but how to exploit the weakness of the rivals, no wonder it is associated with decline but the strategy works.

The irony is that Blizzard will ignore all those streamers negative "feedback" if it goes against their main goal and the same streamers will be streaming Diablo IV nonstop and not PoE or D2R despite its systems being inferior if the game gets a big audience that they can profit on. They will also shut up about its failures pretty quick to not alienate the new audience.

As some people said, Blizzard does not care for 100 000 people that play PoE. It is a drop in the bucket for their 30 mil D3 sales.

 

[ArchAngel]

What's the best way to do a single player good ol' D2 run or two for old time's sake? Ignore the D2R thing?

Somebody seems to be running a version swticher - which patch should I use? I can't remember that from 2002 or whatever.
https://github.com/fearedbliss/Cactus

https://pathofdiablo.com/

Does it have any gfx/resolution improvements

Yes and other QoL improvements like bigger stash space and another tab for potions, gems and runes. Slower stamina drain (that in base D2 becomes irreverent at high levels anyways so they just make it less irritating at low levels as well), better base hit chance for non casters so you do not spend as much time attacking into nothing and many other good changes.

 

[ArchAngel]

Everybody on YT is bitching about Druid and saying it's terrible, the leveling experience is awful, etc. Like, not really? I found it challenging but it wasn't that bad. Some skills need tweaking that's all. I enjoyed the challenge tbh.

The content grind is so fucking hyperbolic sometimes.

You're not meant to be facerolling your way through content at level 25.

It's Necro and Sorc that need to be reined in. Asmon was talking about his faceroll corpse explosion build and saying like, 'best experience ever'. It just looks boring.

The thing is, most other classes do not have challenging leveling or lvl 25 experience. Barbarian has somewhat similar at lvl 25, but he is better while leveling.

 

[abija]

It's way more than 100k and they do care quite a lot. They'll try their best to steal as many disgrunted PoE players as they can without losing their own target audience.

 

[Tavar]

What's the best way to do a single player good ol' D2 run or two for old time's sake? Ignore the D2R thing?

Somebody seems to be running a version swticher - which patch should I use? I can't remember that from 2002 or whatever.
https://github.com/fearedbliss/Cactus

1. Install D2 (+ LOD) and patch it to 1.14d.
2. Install Plugy for ladder features and a nice big stash.
3. Use D2Dx for a higher frame rate and widescreen.

 

[Yosharian]

What's the best way to do a single player good ol' D2 run or two for old time's sake? Ignore the D2R thing?

Somebody seems to be running a version swticher - which patch should I use? I can't remember that from 2002 or whatever.
https://github.com/fearedbliss/Cactus

1. Install D2 (+ LOD) and patch it to 1.14d.
2. Install Plugy for ladder features and a nice big stash.
3. Use D2Dx for a higher frame rate and widescreen.

Dare I hope that it supports ultrawide

 

[BlackAdderBG]

imagine having to paint act maps each season for bonus shit.

Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10. Hahah imagine morons thinking Blizzard has some sort of strategy or plan for how to design a game and not just reuse D3's assets and systems and speak buzzwords for retards to gobble like "They want the casuals hurr durr".

Let me see how gigabrain Blizzard will get the casuals-
"Hmm I'm retard that want to pew pew and enjoy smooth polished AAA Blizzard quality game. What's that? A skill upgrade! Cool! Let me see what the smart, calculated people at Blizzard will entice me with to give them 90$:
1) Paranormal Blood Surge-If an enemy is damaged by Blood Surge's nova while you are Healthy, then gain 1 stack of Overwhelming Blood. When you have 5 stacks of Overwhelming Blood, your next Blood Surge Overpowers.
OR
2) Supernatural Blood Surge- Each time an enemy is hit by Blood Surge's nova, you are Fortified for {#}% Base Life ({#}). While you are Fortified for over {#}% of your Maximum Life, Blood Surge deals {#}% increased damage.

Gee guys I'm so glad that this game is not for the spreadsheet mouth-breeders that play PoE/D2/whatever"

 

[ArchAngel]

imagine having to paint act maps each season for bonus shit.

Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10. Hahah imagine morons thinking Blizzard has some sort of strategy or plan for how to design a game and not just reuse D3's assets and systems and speak buzzwords for retards to gobble like "They want the casuals hurr durr".

Let me see how gigabrain Blizzard will get the casuals-
"Hmm I'm retard that want to pew pew and enjoy smooth polished AAA Blizzard quality game. What's that? A skill upgrade! Cool! Let me see what the smart, calculated people at Blizzard will entice me with to give them 90$:
1) Paranormal Blood Surge-If an enemy is damaged by Blood Surge's nova while you are Healthy, then gain 1 stack of Overwhelming Blood. When you have 5 stacks of Overwhelming Blood, your next Blood Surge Overpowers.
OR
2) Supernatural Blood Surge- Each time an enemy is hit by Blood Surge's nova, you are Fortified for {#}% Base Life ({#}). While you are Fortified for over {#}% of your Maximum Life, Blood Surge deals {#}% increased damage.

Gee guys I'm so glad that this game is not for the spreadsheet mouth-breeders that play PoE/D2/whatever"

Now it is also bad that they want to bring some incline to their new aRPG instead of it just being awesome button gameplay of D3?

 

[abija]

Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.

Yes, because PoE campaign is so trash and D3 had "way better, very good campaign" that people needed 1 year to want to skip it entirely and never touch it again...oh wait that was the whole D3.

Here is your great campaign experience: