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Reinhardt

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
 

Zlaja

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Everybody on YT is bitching about Druid and saying it's terrible, the leveling experience is awful, etc. Like, not really? I found it challenging but it wasn't that bad. Some skills need tweaking that's all. I enjoyed the challenge tbh.

The content grind is so fucking hyperbolic sometimes.

You're not meant to be facerolling your way through content at level 25.

It's Necro and Sorc that need to be reined in. Asmon was talking about his faceroll corpse explosion build and saying like, 'best experience ever'. It just looks boring.

Agree. Fuck those retards who wanna play Necro while watching porn on their other screen.
 

ArchAngel

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.
 

BlackAdderBG

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.

You have 250 skill points in D4, you are factually wrong and pretty retarded on top.
 

Daedalos

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PoE players can fuck right off. Diablo 4 is NOT for you, and it never will be, good riddance.

Basement dweller excel-spreadsheet simulator loving fucks can jerk off to their min-max bullshit for hours on end and let the rest of us enjoy ourselves.

That way you also filter away the worst types of autists and ADHD/asperger from even playing diablo 4 - letting the rest of us normies enjoy our game in peace.
 

abija

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Yes, because PoE campaign is so trash and D3 had "way better, very good campaign" that people needed 1 year to want to skip it entirely and never touch it again...oh wait that was the whole D3.

Are you going retarded on purpose because you lost the argument? Who said anything about quality. Fact is Blizzard implemented a QoL feature community wanted while GGG with 10x more content available still "stick to their vision".
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Dildolos is such a fucking low-IQ cretin it makes me sick. He is actually retarded, with consistently dogshit opinions. If you suffer from a developmental disorder, just go ahead and say that, instead of trying to pretend you're just some normie that dislikes unnecessary complexity. The vast majority of critiques regarding Diablo 4 haven't even been targeted towards it complexity or lack thereof.
 

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PoE players can fuck right off. Diablo 4 is NOT for you, and it never will be, good riddance.

Basement dweller excel-spreadsheet simulator loving fucks can jerk off to their min-max bullshit for hours on end and let the rest of us enjoy ourselves.

That way you also filter away the worst types of autists and ADHD/asperger from even playing diablo 4 - letting the rest of us normies enjoy our game in peace.

Imagine copying the schtick of another codex user.

Yes, because PoE campaign is so trash and D3 had "way better, very good campaign" that people needed 1 year to want to skip it entirely and never touch it again...oh wait that was the whole D3.

Are you going retarded on purpose because you lost the argument? Who said anything about quality. Fact is Blizzard implemented a QoL feature community wanted while GGG with 10x more content available still "stick to their vision".

First of all fuck "the community". PoE campaign may be dogshit (it's not, it's just OK), but skipping it is what leads to retarded shit like level boots, level scaling and tons of stupid shit that make you not feel the progression of your character. How is the adventure mode in D3 better than doing the campaign? Now you can grind same dailies and run the same rifts from the get go. WOW! And for the reason you skipped the campaign in D3, Blizzard is mailing you a full set of gear so you can start "the adventure".
 

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I don't think skipping PoE campaign would be a good idea. It doesn't take that long to complete once you know what you're doing, and it always feels like a great change of pace to go from Act 10 Kitava into maps. Especially on Hardcore since you can't just have your brain on AFK against Kitava for the most part.
 

ArchAngel

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.

You have 250 skill points in D4, you are factually wrong and pretty retarded on top.
Are you counting paragon points into this? Because I do not know how you got that 250 number where there are only 100 levels (and I do not even know if you keep getting skill points after 50 or only paragon points) and you do not get that much from doing objectives on maps.
 

abija

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BlackAdderBG Grunker

You do realize it doesn't replace it? Everyone has the option to do what they like. Someone who hates the campaign can skip it, who hates level scaling can just do it.
 

ArchAngel

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I don't think skipping PoE campaign would be a good idea. It doesn't take that long to complete once you know what you're doing, and it always feels like a great change of pace to go from Act 10 Kitava into maps. Especially on Hardcore since you can't just have your brain on AFK against Kitava for the most part.
I do not enjoy PoE campaign because your build does not really start until you hit lvl 70+ (and you are finished with all 10 acts before your build starts)
D2 is way better than this because your build starts at lvl 30 which is basically end of Act 5. And then you got two full runs of campaign to play your build and make it stronger.
 
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BlackAdderBG

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I don't think skipping PoE campaign would be a good idea. It doesn't take that long to complete once you know what you're doing, and it always feels like a great change of pace to go from Act 10 Kitava into maps. Especially on Hardcore since you can't just have your brain on AFK against Kitava for the most part.

Some people like @abija (whose posts I usually like) are at a point where they are convinced that skipping the game is QoL feature. :lol:
 

Reinhardt

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.
one completed dungeon worth 20 points, one opened location - 5 points. to unlock 1 skill point in first act of d4 you need 200 points. so literally 10 fucking dungeons. stop lying, nigger.
 

abija

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So you think that designing games for everybody will lead to better games?
What does that have to do with anything? Or your previous argument? You're not even remotely trying to argue my point.

PoE brings new content 3-4 times per year, players have run the campaign hundreds of times. The game has tons of content and can easily allow people to do something else for leveling (if they want) instead of forcing the campaign each and every time you level a char.
 

ArchAngel

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.
one completed dungeon worth 20 points, one opened location - 5 points. to unlock 1 skill point in first act of d4 you need 200 points. so literally 10 fucking dungeons. stop lying, nigger.
And why would you do only dungeons LOL?
I just followed quests and got easy 200 points.
 

Reinhardt

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.
one completed dungeon worth 20 points, one opened location - 5 points. to unlock 1 skill point in first act of d4 you need 200 points. so literally 10 fucking dungeons. stop lying, nigger.
And why would you do only dungeons LOL?
I just followed quests and got easy 200 points.
it's first skill point. second is ~800 iirc.
 

ArchAngel

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Imagine having to wait for NPCs dialog then walking to objective then slowly opening a door for you to progress for the Nth time in season 10.

Imagine PoE forcing you to do campaign over and over while D3 lets you skip it since 2013.
to get skill point reward in poe you need to do one quest along the way, not clear 10 dungeons, kill same boss 5 times and run circles on the map for few hours.
Poe has a ton of bonus skill points, one point in D4 is worth like 5 in PoE and it real easy to get.
one completed dungeon worth 20 points, one opened location - 5 points. to unlock 1 skill point in first act of d4 you need 200 points. so literally 10 fucking dungeons. stop lying, nigger.
And why would you do only dungeons LOL?
I just followed quests and got easy 200 points.
it's first skill point. second is ~800 iirc.
Got both in few hours with a new character. Less than I need to get 10 bonus points when playing PoE campaign from lvl 1 with no gear. It is also better than I can 6 different things to get those points instead of needing to always do specific quests for those points in PoE. Gives me freedom that POE does not have.
 

Zlaja

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Am I the only one who couldn't bring myself to play as the Druid, because the dude was just too fucking fat? I haven't seen anyone else complain about this. I can't handle that body inclusivity shit. I would be fine with him being a little round, but you could hardly tell a difference between his human shape and his bear shape.
 

Yosharian

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Am I the only one who couldn't bring myself to play as the Druid, because the dude was just too fucking fat? I haven't seen anyone else complain about this. I can't handle that body inclusivity shit. I would be fine with him being a little round, but you could hardly tell a difference between his human shape and his bear shape.
Haha yeah the customisation for the Druid was fucking ass.
 

Hobo Elf

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The strong fat model was the only good thing about the Druid. I made him bald, gave him a big beard and hooped earrings. Looked like a character out of a Conan story.
 

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